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My thought every time this criticism is trotted out are “how much does it matter if we’re consistently inside the top 5 or 10 teams in the league in terms of offensive points production?”

Followed closely by “why are we preoccupied with intangible things like ‘creativity’ when there are tangible areas where the team falls short (like 3rd down success percentage or takeaways) all over the defense?”
 

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I think that you're overthinking things. The Cowboys were 9-1 in games that Sean Lee started and finished last year and 0-6 in games that he didn't. Let that sink in for a minute. Yes, I know, injuries happen - but the Cowboys' lack of depth at the linebacker position was a KILLER last year. Same thing with the Zeke suspension and Tyron Smith injury.

Remember that they went 13-3 with the same scheme in 2016.


They get results because they have good players but they don't maximize the talent even when they have good results.

That's why we get to the playoffs and Aaron Rodgers knows our every move defensively and offensively we just can't keep up.

Dallas pass game lacks imagination and it lack the deception it should have with a run game like we have acquired.

You should see guys running downfield wide open with the run game we have but our pass game is so easily boxed up because of it's predictability.
 

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I don't see Garrett implementing the 90s offense at all. He has a golden opportunity to use Zeke like they did Emmitt, but he doesn't. And I don't recall too many empty backfield sets back then either? These coaches are not very creative at all. Philly will run on 3rd and 8, the Cowboys will go empty backfield and throw a 4 yard pass. They play afraid and never deviate from that. If the opposing D lines up in a certain formation, the Cowboys counter with the exact same thing they always do in that scenario.. never really mixing it up. I think it's very easy for defenses who watch film to defend this offense or at least know exactly what's coming.
Anticipation is the X Factor that makes the great ones great. When you play a Garrett coached team. Everyone knows what' coming
 

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They get results because they have good players but they don't maximize the talent even when they have good results.

That's why we get to the playoffs and Aaron Rodgers knows our every move defensively and offensively we just can't keep up.

Dallas pass game lacks imagination and it lack the deception it should have with a run game like we have acquired.

You should see guys running downfield wide open with the run game we have but our pass game is so easily boxed up because of it's predictability.
I remember when Aikman would connect with Harper for 30 yds or more on our 1st offensive play of the game. With Emmitt in the backfield now that's creative ;)
 

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Back in the 90's they used to know what was coming and still couldn't stop it.


:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:
But there were differences. Rb's similar. 90's team had true #1 wr. Today's team did not. Qb's not comparable. Novacek was a more productive te than witten. 90's team had 4 playmakers. Today's team just has Zeke.
 

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Would someone in the Jones family or coaching staff actually and literally die if we ran a bunch formation for the WRs? Did El Chapo call up Jerry and say "If one of you gringos run a bunch set, I will will have Jose "El Diablo" Menchaca go there and kill you and dump your body in a pit in a desert in Chihuahua!"

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Don't even get me started on trying to run pick plays...........
 

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There was never a more predictable offense than the early 90s Cowboys. That worked out OK.

We don't have the QB to run a tricked-up passing offense. Dak can't yet read a defense at the line of scrimmage to make the calls necessary to do that.

Brady, Peyton, Brees, Roethlisberger, Romo, Rivers, Rodgers.....those aren't play calls by the offensive coordinator. Those are mostly decisions made by QBs at the line of scrimmage based on coverage.
 

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I think that you're overthinking things. The Cowboys were 9-1 in games that Sean Lee started and finished last year and 0-6 in games that he didn't. Let that sink in for a minute. Yes, I know, injuries happen - but the Cowboys' lack of depth at the linebacker position was a KILLER last year. Same thing with the Zeke suspension and Tyron Smith injury.

Remember that they went 13-3 with the same scheme in 2016.
Yeah, I understand that about Sean Lee and also 2016. But you’re actually reinforcing my argument. The league adjusted to the Cowboys’ 2016 attack and DCs began to take away things that had worked for this offense. It’s seemed as if our coaches responded with “let’s keep fighting”. Creativity in today’s NFL is no longer a luxury. It’s the coin of the realm.
 

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There was never a more predictable offense than the early 90s Cowboys. That worked out OK.

We don't have the QB to run a tricked-up passing offense. Dak can't yet read a defense at the line of scrimmage to make the calls necessary to do that.

Brady, Peyton, Brees, Roethlisberger, Romo, Rivers, Rodgers.....those aren't play calls by the offensive coordinator. Those are mostly decisions made by QBs at the line of scrimmage based on coverage.
I hear you erod, but this ain’t the 90s Cowboys. In fact, since the advent of the salary cap, there are no longer teams with two deep dominant talent like we had from 92-95.
 

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I hear you erod, but this ain’t the 90s Cowboys. In fact, since the advent of the salary cap, there are no longer teams with two deep dominant talent like we had from 92-95.

Here's the thing. Do you think they're calling "creative plays" in Green Bay or New England?

No, they aren't. They call a play (or combo), then Rodgers and Brady survey the defense and adjust accordingly.

The offense looked pretty creative and dynamic under Linehan in 2014. We were singing his praises in those days. But that was 90% Romo, just like it is with teams with seasoned elite QBs who know what they're looking at all the time.

Dak isn't there yet. Most quarterbacks never get there. And their fan bases complain about lack of creativity all the time, too.
 

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But there were differences. Rb's similar. 90's team had true #1 wr. Today's team did not. Qb's not comparable. Novacek was a more productive te than witten. 90's team had 4 playmakers. Today's team just has Zeke.

Bill Belichick has been coaching since the 70s and that guy throws the kitchen sink at teams and if he wants to go old school he will do it with pace and hurrying up to the LOS.

If he came to that conclusion about how to run an offense then it’s probably what is best because he knows more about football then any human on the planet.
 

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Here's the thing. Do you think they're calling "creative plays" in Green Bay or New England?

No, they aren't. They call a play (or combo), then Rodgers and Brady survey the defense and adjust accordingly.

The offense looked pretty creative and dynamic under Linehan in 2014. We were singing his praises in those days. But that was 90% Romo, just like it is with teams with seasoned elite QBs who know what they're looking at all the time.

Dak isn't there yet. Most quarterbacks never get there. And their fan bases complain about lack of creativity all the time, too.
I agree with you E about great QBs reading the D. But...There is a difference between creative play calling and creative adjustments. I'm talking about doing a better and more creative job of adjusting to what the D is taking away. I believe this offense simply needs two things: 1. Being less predictable (they run 75% of the time when in "12 Personnel") 2. Being more creative with personnel packages.

Look, I'm one of these guys that thinks "playcalling" is overrated. Execution and adjustments are what needs to improve. With the addition of Tavon Austin, there should be some creative new wrinkles thrown out. And I expect they will.
 

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Would someone in the Jones family or coaching staff actually and literally die if we ran a bunch formation for the WRs? Did El Chapo call up Jerry and say "If one of you gringos run a bunch set, I will will have Jose "El Diablo" Menchaca go there and kill you and dump your body in a pit in a desert in Chihuahua!"

250px-El_Chapo_Netflix_poster.jpg


Don't even get me started on trying to run pick plays...........
BAWAAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
:lmao2:lmao with that post!,,,SHEESE,,, just how many
'el chapo' beaNers do I gotta head pop out here in the desert B-4 they stop CLONING that LOSER:huh:,,,o_O:facepalm:o_O
 

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BAWAAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
:lmao2:lmao with that post!,,,SHEESE,,, just how many
'el chapo' beaNers do I gotta head pop out here in the desert B-4 they stop CLONING that LOSER:huh:,,,o_O:facepalm:o_O


Careful or you might make El Chapo's "list"........... :eek:

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