Offensive Holding Penalty Facts- Cowboys vs Opponents

[MarcusRock]

I don't believe in the conspiracies either, but we could be wrong.

Which would make you one. Kudos to Bob for the stealth thread in detecting all the conspiracy folk.

Like a moth to a flame, drawn by the fire ...

 

[MarcusRock]

When Micah is pushing past the offensive lineman, who has his arm across Micah's chest, while holding the shoulder pad and jersey on the opposite side, like a seatbelt, is that a foul?

Did Micah use a rip move like he's prone to do? Then no. See the holding rule exceptions.

If Micah is in a position where the offensive lineman has to reach across and grab jersey, the lineman has lost that struggle. He is impeding the defender at that point in a hold which violates the rules.

Unless Micah put himself in that position with a rip move. See the holding rule exceptions.

 

[ESisback]

They like that because if his team's fans hate him it means he's sucking at his football job giving their franchises the opportunity to step into the limelight as winners if they do well (and make more money). Why would they ever want Jerry replaced? Lol.

Never said they wanted him replaced.

 

[MarcusRock]

Never said they wanted him replaced.

Also no need to bury a team he's doing a fine job of keeping from winning anyways.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Did Micah use a rip move like he's prone to do? Then no. See the holding rule exceptions.



Unless Micah put himself in that position with a rip move. See the holding rule exceptions.

Micah broke inside and was passing the tackle who reached across him and grabbed the shoulder pad on the opposite side. With his other hand he grabbed the back of Micah's jersey.

So that isn't holding?

 

[ESisback]

Which would make you one. Kudos to Bob for the stealth thread in detecting all the conspiracy folk.

Like a moth to a flame, drawn by the fire ...

Moth to a flame? Like every time someone points out an odd coincidence, a handful of folks show up to scoff?

 

[ESisback]

Also no need to bury a team he's doing a fine job of keeping from winning anyways.

An occasional sucker punch “undetected” would be a perk for some of these guys, wouldn’t it?

 

[CWR]

Did yall see Jerry dress as a blind refferee for Halloween? Lol. We ain't getting another call all year.

 

[MarcusRock]

Micah broke inside and was passing the tackle who reached across him and grabbed the shoulder pad on the opposite side. With his other hand he grabbed the back of Micah's jersey.

So that isn't holding?

Did Micah use a rip move to do it? And tell me what play this was so I can pull the video. Not that I don't trust your narration but .... I don't trust your narration. Lol.

 

[MarcusRock]

Moth to a flame? Like every time someone points out an odd coincidence, a handful of folks show up to scoff?

Points out? More like whines incessantly about a rule they don't even know. So the "scoffing" is more like, "here's the actual rule about which you were opining without knowledge." Lol.

 

[Beaker42]

Go into any team's fan forum and you'll find the same complaints and conspiracy theories about the refs. It's ridiculous.

Oh really? Watch the replay of any game this season and take a shot every time Parsons is held and it isn't called. You'll be sh*tfaced by halftime.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Fans often see an arm wrapped around a defensive player and instinctively think holding. But it’s not that simple. If the palm is flat against the defender’s chest and there’s no tug of the jersey, it’s not holding.

 

[ESisback]

Points out? More like whines incessantly about a rule they don't even know. So the "scoffing" is more like, "here's the actual rule about which you were opining without knowledge." Lol.

No, offers an opinion, like a normal person, without hours of research because my self esteem is dependent on presenting a “correct” viewpoint to win the approval of internet strangers.

I see too many odd coincidences, I recognize resentment, and things happen that suggest speculative penalties could occasionally affect the outcome of games. I’ve explained myself many times. That’s my opinion, and you’re not going to change it, so what’s the point of you wasting valuable time debating it? Believe what you want, and I’ll do the same. Buh bye.

 

[Jake]

I don't believe in the conspiracies either, but we could be wrong.

Go on any football forum and you'll find threads where fans think the refs are out to get their team. They can't all be right, but they could all be wrong.

 

[MarcusRock]

No, offers an opinion, like a normal person, without hours of research because my self esteem is dependent on presenting a “correct” viewpoint to win the approval of internet strangers.

I see too many odd coincidences, I recognize resentment, and things happen that suggest speculative penalties could occasionally affect the outcome of games. I’ve explained myself many times. That’s my opinion, and you’re not going to change it, so what’s the point of you wasting valuable time debating it? Believe what you want, and I’ll do the same. Buh bye.

I don't care to change your opinion. It's ripe for picking apart its many flaws just as it exists. Makes for an awesome display. Haze to create an excuse for why your team didn't really lose. And when I say "create" you guys literally make ish up as part of your case. Pretty funny that we had our way in the House of Mara earlier this season, getting gift calls from the refs to boot. Lol. But there'll be more creation ahead. There has to be. Batter up. Lol.

 

[speedkilz88]

Fans often see an arm wrapped around a defensive player and instinctively think holding. But it’s not that simple. If the palm is flat against the defender’s chest and there’s no tug of the jersey, it’s not holding.

What is this?

 

[ScipioCowboy]

What is this?

Two guys who can’t quit each other?

 

[TwoDeep3]

Did Micah use a rip move to do it? And tell me what play this was so I can pull the video. Not that I don't trust your narration but .... I don't trust your narration. Lol.

I will review the game I have recorded and get bac k to you. But it will not be today.

 

[ESisback]

I don't care to change your opinion. It's ripe for picking apart its many flaws just as it exists. Makes for an awesome display. Haze to create an excuse for why your team didn't really lose. And when I say "create" you guys literally make ish up as part of your case. Pretty funny that we had our way in the House of Mara earlier this season, getting gift calls from the refs to boot. Lol. But there'll be more creation ahead. There has to be. Batter up. Lol.

And your #1 priority apparently isn’t the Cowboys winning, it’s “proving” your opinion is right, being the enlightened voice of reason. You need order, black and white, control, validation, and the last word. Prove me right by continuing.

 

[MarcusRock]

And your #1 priority apparently isn’t the Cowboys winning, it’s “proving” your opinion is right, being the enlightened voice of reason. You need order, black and white, control, validation, and the last word. Prove me right by continuing.

Why are YOU continuing? Didn't you just say "buh bye" with your previous post ..... like you always do before you come right back claiming it's actually me that needs the last word? Even in your quoted post here, you accuse me of wanting to "prove" myself right and then end your post by saying "prove me right." But when were you conspiracy folk ever consistent?

As I've told you before, you have no control and all you do here is based on fear. Fear your team will lose, fear you'll be ragged on by your buddies, and that fear drives you to create your little conspiracy theories so you can tell your little buddies your team didn't really lose, they were cheated against. "Hey, unfair!" Just like a toddler would do.

And don't talk to me about the Cowboys winning being my priority. You were the one a while back when Washington beating Philly would give us sole possession of 1st, cheered against that prospect because there was a guy at your work that would crow about Washington winning and would give you a hard time. You cheered against a scenario that would help the team over your own personal fear. Literally scared of a ragging when your team would be over his in the standings. That told me all I needed to know about you and how fear rules what you do or don't do. Cheered against your own team's fortune to save your own skin. Tsk, tsk. Would a real fan do that?