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Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by MichaelWinicki, Sep 10, 2013.

  1. Rockport

    Rockport AmberBeer

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    If you can't figure out that it's impossible to compare our OL to the rest of the NFL without the scoring explanation then maybe you didn't even go to school or pay attention.
     
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  2. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Regular Joe....

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    I don't know about you guys but I, myself, am grateful for any info posted, regardless of if I understand it, like it, hate it or what.
     
  3. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Moderator

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    As long as you're a happy camper Amber... Then I'll sleep well tonight. :)
     
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  4. erod

    erod Well-Known Member

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    I put no stock in numbers I don't understand.

    Life is easier that way.

    I could tell pretty clearly that Bernadeau stunk, Leary had a rough moment or two, Frederick was terrific, and Free and Smith were more than good enough.

    Can't wait to add Waters to the mix.
     
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  5. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Moderator

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    It depends on which PFF QB rankings you're referring too... I'm looking at the PFF QB ratings and Peyton is rated ahead of Palmer.
     
  6. Zimmy Lives

    Zimmy Lives Well-Known Member

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    I feel the same way. All of them, some more than others, had lapses in their game but as a unit they were solid. That's all I care about.
     
  7. Aven8

    Aven8 Well-Known Member

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    Not always true. The game of golf is scored backwards. :)
     
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  8. jblaze2004

    jblaze2004 Well-Known Member

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    free? I thougt frederick played great. Free played good also. Just that one play made him look terrible lol. But Murray didn't help with the half attempt of a block though. His man is the one who hurt Romo.
     
  9. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Moderator

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    I don't play. :)
     
  10. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Moderator

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    But even on that play Romo held the ball too long.
     
  11. Aven8

    Aven8 Well-Known Member

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    Neither do I. I actually learned how to score playing putt putt!!
     
  12. visionary

    visionary Well-Known Member

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    thanx for posting Mike and the free math lesson ( i will make sure to bookmark it)

    just so i have it straight though.....

    this week PFF grades actually mean something (since they gave our OL a good grade)?
     
  13. onlyonenow

    onlyonenow Benched

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    PFF is garbage. Their idea on penalties is that all are equal no matter what it was or when it happened.
     
  14. BlindFaith

    BlindFaith Well-Known Member

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    I confirm PFF is nonsense.
     
  15. AdamJT13

    AdamJT13 Salary Cap Analyst

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    Agreed. Even if you trust their knowledge of HOW to rate players (which is iffy at best), their formulas are terrible. It's sad that so many mediots have begun using their ratings.
     
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  16. honyock

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    I may be missing something in the explanation, but it sounds like they're saying that any score above +2.0 or below -2.0 is extremely rare, well below .01%. Given that Berny was scored at -4.5 for the game, by my scientific calculations, a performance that bad should only happen once every 14.7 million years. Thank goodness we got Waters.

    And I'd agree on Smith playing better than his score indicated. Toe two penalties and the late sack he gave up (at least ii think one of th sacks was on him). Drove his score down.

    And I do appreciate this info from PFF being posted. More grist for the mill, and we're all adults and can decide what info we choose to discount or take with the proper grain of salt.
     
  17. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Moderator

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    That's a good question...

    I look at the grades in comparison to others at the same position within the NFL in order to get a better handle on "What does this grade actually mean"?

    Based on the grades for one week...

    Free is the 14th ranked OT (out of 65)
    Smith is the 25th ranked OT (out of 65)
    Leary is the 43rd ranked G (out of 64)
    Bern is 58th (out of 64)
    And Travis was the 15th ranked Center (out of 32)
     
  18. BlindFaith

    BlindFaith Well-Known Member

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    Umm, I'm in no mood for math at the moment, but if Free had over a +2 rating and they say that anything above a +2 falls into the rare of rares (.01%). Then how in the heck is he only the 14th ranked OT? Did this weekend mark the occurrence of 14, potentially once in a life time type performances from offensive tackles? Or, more than likely, PFF is nonsense...reconfirmed!
     
  19. visionary

    visionary Well-Known Member

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    This was a banner week for OTs
    In other news, Jerry gave Free a multi- year extension once these rankings were released
     
  20. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Moderator

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    That +2/-2 stuff is PER PLAY.

    The final game grade can (and is many times) greater than +2.0 or less than -2.0
     

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