*** Official non-Cowboys player cuts thread *** merged ***

[AsthmaField]

This team is philosophically against getting old players. They don't want the age, the injuries (see Chris Johnson), the pay.... nothing about older players fits into what Dallas is trying to do here.

IMO, if they pick up a guy it will be a young player and not a player like Jackson (who I used to love as a player).

 

[CATCH17]

I hope Dallas isn't waiting for a Christine Michael or someone to fall into their lap, Jackson is a better all around RB than anyone on our roster. If McFadden goes down who's picking up blitzes?

Pierre Thomas.

There will be a list of guys at any time that can come in and do the job.

We're talking about the easiest position in football to find a replacement. It's not a big deal.

 

[CowboyChris]

I think Jackson is every bit as good as Randle & McFadden, Unless we really plan on using Dunbar, I would go after Jackson immediately.

 

[Stash]

There is no taking on the salary in NFL trades.
Forte would just be cut to save money and become a FA.
That's why NFL trades are so few and far between.

Forte could agree to give up some money on an extension and then trades but there's not really a way for Chicago to pay it.
At least that helps them in any way

What about agreeing to a new deal with a signing bonus with the Bears contingent upon a trade?

Say a two year deal for $13 million with $4 million in a singing bonus and another $3-$4 million guaranteed for week one?

The Bears would eat that bonus money upon trading him.

Forte gets his money guaranteed for this year and both sides have an option year for 2016.

 

[Deep_South]

The thing is, McFadden can do what Dunbar can do, but Dunbar can't do what McFadden can do. So it seems to me we only need one of them, and that would be McFadden. I just don't see what we gain by taking McFadden out for a play and putting in Dunbar. Fred Jackson could plug in for McFadden if he is hurt, but Dunbar probably couldn't.

 

[Stash]

Dunbar has literally been given no chance here. Neither has Randle for that matter.

I don't get all the anti-Dunbar sentiment. The guy has barely played. They rode Murray into the ground and tossed him aside. Now we get to see what these guys can do.

Dunbar has hit some big plays with limited time.

If Dunbar was actually any good, we wouldn't have been waiting several years to see it. The Cowboys aren't keeping a Ferrari parked in the garage here.

He's an undrafted player who got that way for good reason and he's been a wait and see project for the Cowboys ever since.

I'm tired of waiting to never see anything. Give me an established running back with skins on the wall over a 'maybe this year' niche player.

 

[Cowboys22]

Dunbar has literally been given no chance here. Neither has Randle for that matter.

I don't get all the anti-Dunbar sentiment. The guy has barely played. They rode Murray into the ground and tossed him aside. Now we get to see what these guys can do.

Dunbar has hit some big plays with limited time.

Dunbar was supposed to be a big part of the offense for the past two years and it never happened. Last year, he fumbled in week one and never regained the trust of the coaching staff. Letting him go is no big deal. I'd take a proven RB like Jackson for this year all day long.

 

[Stash]

The thing is, McFadden can do what Dunbar can do, but Dunbar can't do what McFadden can do. So it seems to me we only need one of them, and that would be McFadden. I just don't see what we gain by taking McFadden out for a play and putting in Dunbar. Fred Jackson could plug in for McFadden if he is hurt, but Dunbar probably couldn't.

Exactly right. You understand what many of us are saying. And, given the track record for this group thus far, I want a better insurance policy than a niche player who couldn't be your running back if called upon anyway.

Randle and McFadden get hurt? You're forced to sign someone else because there's no way Dunbar can fill that role. And if he can't, there's little reason for him to be here, much less costing $1.5 million.

 

[Sydla]

This team is philosophically against getting old players. They don't want the age, the injuries (see Chris Johnson), the pay.... nothing about older players fits into what Dallas is trying to do here.

IMO, if they pick up a guy it will be a young player and not a player like Jackson (who I used to love as a player).

But that's short sighted IMO because you are talking about having a guy on a one year deal.

So the fact Jackson is 34 shouldn't scare the team if they think he could help. It's not like he'd be commanding a 3-4 year deal here.

 

[Alexander]

Jackson had 500 yards rushing last year (granted 3.7 ypc) and caught 66 balls for a terrible Bills offense. Not sure how one can argue that Dunbar would be more valuable than that.

The only thing Dunbar has on Jackson is age. But when you are talking 3rd string TB, does age really matter all that much?

Age might not, but the ability to contribute on special teams does. That is the only reason I can see why the Cowboys keep Dunbar around. Our third back has to do something other than run the football.

 

[sweetness0986]

This is a no brainier IMO. Would love to see a more reliable RB round out the 3 backs instead of Dunbar. I'd feel much better going into the season. One year contract at his age, get 'er done!

 

[dallasdave]

This is a no brainier IMO. Would love to see a more reliable RB round out the 3 backs instead of Dunbar. I'd feel much better going into the season. One year contract at his age, get 'er done!

Just what the doctor ordered, a real backup RB instead of Dunbar. I don't think Dunbar can play many downs a game. When you only have a 53 man roster you can't afford to carry a guy who can't be a real backup (20 carries or more a game).

 

[Sydla]

Age might not, but the ability to contribute on special teams does. That is the only reason I can see why the Cowboys keep Dunbar around. Our third back has to do something other than run the football.

I thought it was said in another thread, Jackson also has been playing special teams. Granted, he's probably not much as a returner whereas Dunbar has been getting some looks there.

 

[dallasdave]

If Dunbar was actually any good, we wouldn't have been waiting several years to see it. The Cowboys aren't keeping a Ferrari parked in the garage here.

He's an undrafted player who got that way for good reason and he's been a wait and see project for the Cowboys ever since.

I'm tired of waiting to never see anything. Give me an established running back with skins on the wall over a 'maybe this year' niche player.

 

[Bleu Star]

Dunbar is a JAG...

Fred Jackson was just cut by the Bills and he still has plenty of mileage left on those legs.

Cut Dunbar, replace with Fred Jackson, move forward......

WOW.. no brainer...

Fred Jackson has made a living over the past six seasons amassing over 1000 combined rushing/receiving yards out of the backfield. He looked pretty good when I saw him out there on Saturday. If not Fred, Why not Pierre? Anyone can easily replace Dunbar and immediately improve our rbbc....

 

[Sydla]

Jackson on a one year deal is a no brainer.

Maybe we are getting Forte! LOL.

 

[EST_1986]

It would be so much smarter to have a Fred Jackson thread instead of hijacking the cuts thread to talk about one player

 

[Hailmary]

there will be others available, which is what Stephen essentially has been waiting for the entire time. but i would definitely consider Jackson

This is my thinking as well. I wouldn't hate it if we picked up Jackson, but I think there will be more players with greater upside after the final round of cuts. I can understand why so many would want Jackson or Jennings, but I think it has more to do with the fact that they're recognizable names more than anything else. I'm personally keeping an eye on the Bengals, Broncos and 49ers cuts....

 

[Bleu Star]

This is my thinking as well. I wouldn't hate it if we picked up Jackson, but I think there will be more players with greater upside after the final round of cuts. I can understand why so many would want Jackson or Jennings, but I think it has more to do with the fact that they're recognizable names more than anything else. I'm personally keeping an eye on the Bengals, Broncos and 49ers cuts....

I can groove with this. Hope you're right.

 

[erod]

Just what the doctor ordered, a real backup RB instead of Dunbar. I don't think Dunbar can play many downs a game. When you only have a 53 man roster you can't afford to carry a guy who can't be a real backup (20 carries or more a game).

Wow, have you checked the injury history of Fred Jackson?