Official Roy Halladay Trade Thread

[bayeslife]

I'm just not seeing it. Halladay is good, but Sabathia was getting this attention last year. Look how he's doing now.

 

[SA_Gunslinger]

I hope the Phils stand their ground on this one. We don't need him and I love that we have so many more highly regarded guys in our system. Don't mortgage the future for one player.

 

[ajk23az]

I'm just not seeing it. Halladay is good, but Sabathia was getting this attention last year. Look how he's doing now.

CC is right on his career average for ERA (3.66) with a 3.67 this year. That is mighty impressive given that he pitches in that launching pad that is Yankee Stadium...

He was unreal as a Brewer last year and you can't expect a 1.65 ERA and 7/17 CGs all the time..

 

[Doomsday]

I dont see why anyone would give up the type of prospects/players for a 34 year old pitcher, regardless if he is one of the best in the league or not.

 

[Cowboy Junkie]

I dont see why anyone would give up the type of prospects/players for a 34 year old pitcher, regardless if he is one of the best in the league or not.

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By Mike Silva ~ July 25th, 2009. Filed under: Mike Silva.

Jon Heyman reported an interesting note at his twitter about 10 minutes ago.

Yankees might – repeat, might – consider giving up Joba for Halladay. but wont entertain request of Joba & Hughes

Halladay is ripe for the pickings. With the Phillies refusing to give up some of their top prospects the Blue Jays might have to start to look elsewhere. Joba is pitching better than ever. Offer them Joba for Halladay and see if they bite.

Halladay and Sabathia would be one of the best 1-2 combos we have seen in a long time, maybe ever. You just don’t know what the future brings so why not go for it now?

It appears the stars are aligning for the Yankees to swoop in and steal Halladay like they did with Mark Teixeira this winter. Should be an exciting week with the trade deadline coming up Friday.

 

[Cowboy Junkie]

I dont see why anyone would give up the type of prospects/players for a 34 year old pitcher, regardless if he is one of the best in the league or not.

I think Holiday is 32

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

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By Mike Silva ~ July 25th, 2009. Filed under: Mike Silva.

Jon Heyman reported an interesting note at his twitter about 10 minutes ago.

Yankees might – repeat, might – consider giving up Joba for Halladay. but wont entertain request of Joba & Hughes

Halladay is ripe for the pickings. With the Phillies refusing to give up some of their top prospects the Blue Jays might have to start to look elsewhere. Joba is pitching better than ever. Offer them Joba for Halladay and see if they bite.

Halladay and Sabathia would be one of the best 1-2 combos we have seen in a long time, maybe ever. You just don’t know what the future brings so why not go for it now?

It appears the stars are aligning for the Yankees to swoop in and steal Halladay like they did with Mark Teixeira this winter. Should be an exciting week with the trade deadline coming up Friday.

Was also reported that the Yanks were trying to aquire Bronson Arroyo from the Reds or Lee from the Indians. Now, Halladay would probably lock the Yanks for another title but if they can't get him, then Arroyo or Lee would also be a pretty good pickup. Arroyo is a work horse and Lee has over 100Ks with a 3.14 ERA, which is not too bad for a 5th starter.

You figure CC, Pettitte, Burnett, Jaba and either Halladay, Arroyo or Lee with Hughes for Long Relief and Mariano as closer, that would be a nice rotation. Joba or Hughes could get moved but I don't know.

 

[ajk23az]

Was also reported that the Yanks were trying to aquire Bronson Arroyo from the Reds or Lee from the Indians. Now, Halladay would probably lock the Yanks for another title but if they can't get him, then Arroyo or Lee would also be a pretty good pickup. Arroyo is a work horse and Lee has over 100Ks with a 3.14 ERA, which is not too bad for a 5th starter.

You figure CC, Pettitte, Burnett, Jaba and either Halladay, Arroyo or Lee with Hughes for Long Relief and Mariano as closer, that would be a nice rotation. Joba or Hughes could get moved but I don't know.

They later shot down that report that they were going after Arroyo.

Arroyo has given up so many home runs this year already and that would just get worse pitching in Yankee Stadium. Yes I know he has pitched well his last 3-4 starts or w/e.

According to Peter Abraham of The Journal News, the Yankees have shot down a rumor that they have interest in the Reds' Bronson Arroyo.
A source told AOL Fanhouse's Jeff Fletcher this afternoon that a deal "will get done," but Abraham is a highly trusted source when it comes to Yankee affairs. It seems the Yanks will stick with Sergio Mitre as their No. 5 starter, unless something happens before Friday.

Lee would most definitely become their #2 behind CC, then goes Burnett, Joba, and w/e #5, Aceves or Mitre.

Hughes has been locked into the setup role for Mariano.
My bet is the Yanks stand pat.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

They later shot down that report that they were going after Arroyo.



Lee would most definitely become their #2 behind CC, then goes Burnett, Joba, and w/e #5, Aceves or Mitre.

Hughes has been locked into the setup role for Mariano.
My bet is the Yanks stand pat.

That's not an accurate report. From what I understand, that deal is not dead by any means. The deal hinges on how much salary the Yankees would have to take on. I don't know that Lee would become the #2 ahead of Burnett. A.J. is 10-4 5-0 in his last 6 starts with an ERA of 2.27 in Jun and July. At this point, you can make the case that Burnett is the Yankee #1 as opposed to CC. It's pretty close.

 

[ajk23az]

That's not an accurate report. From what I understand, that deal is not dead by any means. The deal hinges on how much salary the Yankees would have to take on. I don't know that Lee would become the #2 ahead of Burnett. A.J. is 10-4 5-0 in his last 6 starts with an ERA of 2.27 in Jun and July. At this point, you can make the case that Burnett is the Yankee #1 as opposed to CC. It's pretty close.

Not an accurate report? I would trust a highly trusted source more than an AOL Fanhouse blogger.

Burnett is pitching really good right now but Lee is the reigning Cy Young winner, pitching on an extremely crappy team. He is 7-9 with a 3.14 ERA, that right there shows you how bad the Indians are. Cliff Lee has 10 starts this year in which he has given up 3 ER or less and got the loss or a no decision, 5 of which he has given up 2 ER or less...

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Not an accurate report? I would trust a highly trusted source more than an AOL Fanhouse blogger.

Burnett is pitching really good right now but Lee is the reigning Cy Young winner, pitching on an extremely crappy team. He is 7-9 with a 3.14 ERA, that right there shows you how bad the Indians are. Cliff Lee has 10 starts this year in which he has given up 3 ER or less and got the loss or a no decision, 5 of which he has given up 2 ER or less...

I suppose if you know somebody in the Yankee or Reds front office, your source is probably better. I was listening to Peter Gammons who was discussing the possible trade. I guess we'll see if it has any legs or not.

Lee did win it last year but last year was by far his best season ever. It's not like Cleveland is horrible. They are still 4th in the AL in run production which is not bad. You also have to consider that Burnett is playing in the New Yankee Stadium which could break the record of HRs hit in a single season this year. It's not like Burnett doesn't have his own difficulties to contend with.

 

[Rampage]

Boston has made an offer. doubt it happens but can you imagine?

#1 Halladay
#2 Beckett
#3 Lester

 

[peplaw06]

Why would Ricciardi even consider dealing with the Yankees or Red Sox?

 

[SLATEmosphere]

Boston has made an offer. doubt it happens but can you imagine?

#1 Halladay
#2 Beckett
#3 Lester

Pretty disgusting. Man I hope the Yanks shed that garbage called Joba. He can't even go 5 innings. Cashman won't let Halladay go to the Sox. That rotation would guarentee them the title. When they have Beckett and Schilling they were unbeatable in the playoffs.

 

[Rampage]

Pretty disgusting. Man I hope the Yanks shed that garbage called Joba. He can't even go 5 innings. Cashman won't let Halladay go to the Sox. That rotation would guarentee them the title. When they have Beckett and Schilling they were unbeatable in the playoffs.

yeah the sox would be the favorites no doubt. i hope the bluejays are that dumb.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

yeah the sox would be the favorites no doubt. i hope the bluejays are that dumb.

Ya if it did happen I can guarentee you that Cliff Lee will be Yankee then. No way they stand pat and let the Red Sox just win an easy title.

 

[Rampage]

Ya if it did happen I can guarentee you that Cliff Lee will be Yankee then. No way they stand pat and let the Red Sox just win an easy title.

probably. the yankees are a joke. they just spent almost a half billion dollars on 3 players this offseason.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

probably. the yankees are a joke. they just spent almost a half billion dollars on 3 players this offseason.

They have a pretty good farm system. They just fill certain holes with high priced FA's. They want to win. Most people don't know that 58% of their current roster is homegrown. That's 2nd in the league to the Rockies. Jackson,Montero,Brackman and Betences are all legit prospects. There's nothing wrong with filling holes in your roster with big FA's. As a fan I wanna see that. Most of thier talent is homegrown and they have a misconception about them "buying" a ring.

 

[DIAF]

They have a pretty good farm system. They just fill certain holes with high priced FA's. They want to win. Most people don't know that 58% of their current roster is homegrown. That's 2nd in the league to the Rockies. Jackson,Montero,Brackman and Betences are all legit prospects. There's nothing wrong with filling holes in your roster with big FA's. As a fan I wanna see that. Most of thier talent is homegrown and they have a misconception about them "buying" a ring.

Too bad most of their best players are usually hired guns. Hence the "buying" a ring.

CC Sabathia, AJ Burnett, Mark Teixiera, ARoid, Johnny Damon, Hideki Matsui, Swisher, Nady........

 

[SLATEmosphere]

Too bad most of their best players are usually hired guns. Hence the "buying" a ring.

CC Sabathia, AJ Burnett, Mark Teixiera, ARoid, Johnny Damon, Hideki Matsui, Swisher, Nady........

So? That's not even that much. Look at the Red Sox,Angels,Tigers,Cubs,Mets rosters. Are they not buying a ring either?

I'll say it again. The Yankees have the 2nd highest rate of homegrown players on their roster in the league. I don't know how you can really buy a ring when you also have the highest rate in the AL.

Therefore you got owned. Next please.