Official Soccer/Football thread

[burmafrd]

Like I said the big difference in Rugby is that the guys are not 300lb monsters and built like fireplugs. I think the average size of rugby players at the top level is what - 210 or so?

 

[Ren]

Have you played? I have played both, and believe me, Rugby players can HIT. The sport itself isn't conducive to the highlight reel hits because you don't have three tiers of defense, and you typically have a run at the opposing player. In fact, the player with the ball is usually the one initiating contact.

Believe me, Rugby players can hit just the same as football players. It's just not as common, and can often be a bad idea.

Yes and no I've never played organized rugby but i trained some with a rugby team when i played football so my first hand experience with the sport is very limited.
But you kinda just proved my point, yes they can, hit but the nature of the sport makes it very rare.
I dare anyone who says football players are soft for wearing pads to go play it at full speed without pads and see how much fun they have.

 

[jterrell]

Umm....how does that make what I said "not really true". You basically just rephrased what I was trying to say.

I have played them both as well.

What we are saying is similar but not the same

Its the small difference that matters

Football is a game about hitting, it is built upon hitting and delivering big blows. Rugby is more of a king of the hill type struggle onwards en masse.

 

[jterrell]

Tom Hicks bought Liverpool, but you can continue hating Chelsea anyway. Nobody likes Chelsea. After their owner gets tired of his little toy, they'll go back to being the crap club they were before.

ahhh good to know. I thought Hicks was the owner and that's how they ended up playing against MLS guys.

I really like Ballack and Didier, plus the Cole fellas.
Man U is the evil empire not Chelsea

 

[Dave the Sicilian]

Hi all,
this thread is a great idea even for football (soccer) hater
I am a supporter of my town team ...CATANIA but it's a small team and we are proud to live our 3rd straight season in Serie A and our target is...remain again in the maximum category

But I am also a GREAT fan of JUVENTUS and this year we come back to play Champions league, so the management is workin' heavy to build a better team...'til now they took some international player but not big names IMO. The real good news is the coming back of some young players grown in the Juventus youth team and then sent to play in some small teams to make experience...remember these name: Giovinco, De Ceglie and Marchisio

 

[UKCowboysFan]

Like I said the big difference in Rugby is that the guys are not 300lb monsters and built like fireplugs. I think the average size of rugby players at the top level is what - 210 or so?

That's true to a point, because a 300lb guy wouldn't last 80 mins playing Rugby because he'd have to run all over the field.

The thing with the big hits, is that they don't usually come from the big guys on the line anyway. It's the smaller (?) guys that have speed as well that do the damage


As for the size of Rugby players. Jonah Lomu (who played on the wing for the All Blacks and was probably as quick as Terry Glenn) weighed in at 260lb. Getting hit by him at full pelt was equal to any hit that you could get in Football. As an example today, the All Blacks front row range in between 250 - 280.

I think the biggest difference in the hits, is the fact that in Football it is perfectly legal to hit someone without the ball. So they take a hit when they aren't prepared for it, that and the fact that knocking them down is enough.

 

[gazmc_06]

Ah, a football thread, awesome. I was born and raised in Glasgow so football is my thing. Being a Rangers fan I can safely say that football is home of the biggest rivalry in all of sprots (Celtic-Rangers), I have been all over the world and nothing even comes close to the passion and hatred of the old-firm rivalry.

As for it being boring....if you don't like it don't watch. And also football players can have their careers ended with one tackle, they are far from sissies. The players from Spain, Portugal and foreign countries like that definetly play act, but British football is the toughest in the world, FAR from being sissies.

 

[thekavorka]

Ah, a football thread, awesome. I was born and raised in Glasgow so football is my thing. Being a Rangers fan I can safely say that football is home of the biggest rivalry in all of sprots (Celtic-Rangers), I have been all over the world and nothing even comes close to the passion and hatred of the old-firm rivalry.

As for it being boring....if you don't like it don't watch. And also football players can have their careers ended with one tackle, they are far from sissies. The players from Spain, Portugal and foreign countries like that definetly play act, but British football is the toughest in the world, FAR from being sissies.

i dont know man. i think River Plate/Boca Juniors is the biggest rivalry. i think the old firm stands out due to all the alcohol and hooligans associated with it.

 

[CowboyMark]

Ah, a football thread, awesome. I was born and raised in Glasgow so football is my thing. Being a Rangers fan I can safely say that football is home of the biggest rivalry in all of sprots (Celtic-Rangers), I have been all over the world and nothing even comes close to the passion and hatred of the old-firm rivalry.

As for it being boring....if you don't like it don't watch. And also football players can have their careers ended with one tackle, they are far from sissies. The players from Spain, Portugal and foreign countries like that definetly play act, but British football is the toughest in the world, FAR from being sissies.

I don't know dude. Boca Jrs vs River Plate in Argentina, Penarol vs Nacional in Uruguay, Barcelona vs Real Madrid, and even Tigres vs Monterrey in Mexico are as intense as Celtic vs Rangers. Although I would put that match in the top 5 in the world football rivalries list. I have been lucky enough to catch a couple of those games and intense would be an understatement.

 

[gazmc_06]

I've been to several Old Firm games and I don't think anything can match that intensity. The noise in the stadium, the passion and the flat out hatred that goes with it is incredible. You have to experience one of them to understand just how crazy it is, you are raised from a kid to hate the other team and it just gets worse as the years go on....the religion thing helps add spice to it. Boca and River Plate is similar, Madrid and Barcelona isn't as bad though, it's still bad but they hatred isn't as severe. I can say without any doubt that Celtic (and their fans) are my most hated thing in the world by far.

 

[Brandon]

Your missing Roma vs Lazio, Flamengo vs Fluminense etc.

 

[Dave the Sicilian]

Your missing Roma vs Lazio, Flamengo vs Fluminense etc.

and CATANIA-Palermo

 

[CowboyMark]

Man U vs Liverpool, Colo Colo vs U.Chile, and AC Milan vs Inter Milan are some other great fooball rivalries.

 

[Cochese]

Man U vs Liverpool, Colo Colo vs U.Chile, and AC Milan vs Inter Milan are some other great fooball rivalries.

Spurs v Gunners and even Man U v Man City is far more intense than United verse the Pool.

 

[Cochese]

That's true to a point, because a 300lb guy wouldn't last 80 mins playing Rugby because he'd have to run all over the field.

The thing with the big hits, is that they don't usually come from the big guys on the line anyway. It's the smaller (?) guys that have speed as well that do the damage


As for the size of Rugby players. Jonah Lomu (who played on the wing for the All Blacks and was probably as quick as Terry Glenn) weighed in at 260lb. Getting hit by him at full pelt was equal to any hit that you could get in Football. As an example today, the All Blacks front row range in between 250 - 280.

I think the biggest difference in the hits, is the fact that in Football it is perfectly legal to hit someone without the ball. So they take a hit when they aren't prepared for it, that and the fact that knocking them down is enough.

I dont mean to clutter this football thread with more rugby talk, but Jonah Lomu was an absolute beast. He could give ANY American footballer a run for his money, I loved watching the old Fox Sports World just to get a glimpse of the man beast in action.

 

[UKCowboysFan]

Spurs v Gunners and even Man U v Man City is far more intense than United verse the Pool.

Man Utd's hatred of Liverpool is far more intense than their rivalry with City.

Mostly because City have not been rivals on the pitch for many years, whereas Liverpool were the best team in England (and Probably Europe) through the late 70's & early 80's.


I have to agree with the Old Firm rivalry though.

In most other cities you could support either team, this is not true (and not really possible) in Glasgow where the city is split down sectarian lines.

I did see a documentary on the rivalry once, and there is a die hard Rangers pub, just a stone's throw from Celtic Park. They asked Celtic fans if they would ever visit, and to a man they replied not if they wanted to come out in one piece.

 

[Cochese]

Man Utd's hatred of Liverpool is far more intense than their rivalry with City.

Mostly because City have not been rivals on the pitch for many years, whereas Liverpool were the best team in England (and Probably Europe) through the late 70's & early 80's.


I have to agree with the Old Firm rivalry though.

In most other cities you could support either team, this is not true (and not really possible) in Glasgow where the city is split down sectarian lines.

I did see a documentary on the rivalry once, and there is a die hard Rangers pub, just a stone's throw from Celtic Park. They asked Celtic fans if they would ever visit, and to a man they replied not if they wanted to come out in one piece.

Who really cares who Man U hates, everyone hates them.

Ever tried wearing an Arsenal shirt around the wrong part of North London? I have, and the results were hilarious.

 

[gazmc_06]

Man Utd's hatred of Liverpool is far more intense than their rivalry with City.

Mostly because City have not been rivals on the pitch for many years, whereas Liverpool were the best team in England (and Probably Europe) through the late 70's & early 80's.


I have to agree with the Old Firm rivalry though.

In most other cities you could support either team, this is not true (and not really possible) in Glasgow where the city is split down sectarian lines.

I did see a documentary on the rivalry once, and there is a die hard Rangers pub, just a stone's throw from Celtic Park. They asked Celtic fans if they would ever visit, and to a man they replied not if they wanted to come out in one piece.

Man, in Glasgow you love one and you DESPISE the other more than anything else. People get murdered for wearing football shirts all the time, it's insane but I wouldn't change a thing about it.

That pub you were talking about is the Louden Tavern...Celtic fans could not go anywhere near it or they would probably get killed, that pub is right in the most sacterian area, that's where I grew up actually.

 

[CowboyMark]

My team from mexico(Tigres) tied the opening game at home against Pachuca. Great game. So close yet so far. Does anyone know when the seasons begin in Europe. I'm ready for some EPL baby.

 

[gazmc_06]

SPL and the Premiership start in 2 weeks.....