Official Tashard Choice Thread **MERGED**

[cowfan]

Do you actually believe Choice's 2 or 3 year-old nephew wanted Vick's autograph. Would the kid really know what an autograph is? He's a pretty smart kid. If the autograph was for his nephew, why all the talk about Choice's love of Vick for what he's overcome. I think Choice should say he just admire Vick and wanted his autograph. Don't throw his nephew under the bus

It may not be a big deal to some, but I wouldn't be surprised if Choice is playing for another team next season. The Cowboys biggest criticism is that the players don't seem to care and Choice's fawning over Vick doesn't help that image.

Shake hands or hug after the loss, but don't kiss the winning teams *** (butts) by seeking autographs.

 

[theebs]

Because he's a fellow professional athlete, and a great player at that. A lot of fans claim the players don't care as much we do and none of them would have a problem with what Choice did.

And as for his IQ... Apparently he's smart enough to see that Choice made a very dumb move.

Hey remember the time when emmitt got cunninghams autograph after the bounty bowl?

wait...me either....dont understand how people dont get this.

 

[Stautner]

Yeah, but:

1. Tashard Choice didn't invent nephews. They've been around a lot longer than the game of football but nobody else is out there running down opponents for autographs.
2. He could have told the 2-year-old that Vick is a bad man because he did mean things to dogs on purpose. Pretty darn simple and something any two-year- old would get. If any two-year-old I cared about asked me to get him/her Vick's autograph that's exactly what I would have done.

Having said that, I don't think any worse of Choice as a player and not really as a person either. I like Choice. I just really, really, really don't like Vick.

Again, someone applying their own standard to Choice.

There is no single way to behave as a good uncle, but every good uncle has to love his nephew enough to do special things for him. Maybe what Choice did isn't what you would do, but, but if Choice was acting out of love for his nephew who are you or any of us to condemn it?

If you have a nephew that you love, it's very likely that you do things for him that somebody else may not, but that doesn't make it wrong. The important thing is to have the feeling for your nephew in your heart, and if you do it's BS for anyone to suggest you have to show it only in the manner they would.

 

[Idgit]

Hey remember the time when emmitt got cunninghams autograph after the bounty bowl?

wait...me either....dont understand how people dont get this.

Because there's no equivalent of the Bounty Bowl here.

And because some of us wouldn't care if Emmitt for some reason did want Cunningham's autograph because it really has nothing to do with the team or the team's performance.

 

[theebs]

Because there's no equivalent of the Bounty Bowl here.

And because some of us wouldn't care if Emmitt for some reason did want Cunningham's autograph because it really has nothing to do with the team or the team's performance.

oh ok.

everyone views it different.

 

[Wrangler87]

choice and jg are making it clear that they dont care for each other,i bet choice wants out of here and i dont blame him.

Good riddance. He's an embarassment.

 

[Wrangler87]

We all should care. Can you honestly imagine Randy White, Michael Irvin or Issaic Holt ever asking for an opponent's autograph after losing a game?

Exactly. He would have been kicked out of the locker room. One of the most embarassing post game events in Dallas Cowboys history.

 

[Stautner]

Exactly. He would have been kicked out of the locker room. One of the most embarassing post game events in Dallas Cowboys history.

First, I can't imagine Randy White hugging and laughing with members of the other team after a loss, yet that happens every game. If you are going to condemn Choice for doing somethnig Randy White wouldn't have done, then you have to condemn a large portion of the team for the same thing.

Second, Michael Irvin has a large family (I believe 8 siblings) who is very close to, and I can very easily see him getting an autograph for one of his nephews. Perhaps he would have needed to cool down a bit after the game, perhaps not, I don't know, but I can easily see him wanting to do that for a nephew.

Third, Isaac Holt?

 

[DandyDon1722]

Again, someone applying their own standard to Choice.

There is no single way to behave as a good uncle, but every good uncle has to love his nephew enough to do special things for him. Maybe what Choice did isn't what you would do, but, but if Choice was acting out of love for his nephew who are you or any of us to condemn it?

If you have a nephew that you love, it's very likely that you do things for him that somebody else may not, but that doesn't make it wrong. The important thing is to have the feeling for your nephew in your heart, and if you do it's BS for anyone to suggest you have to show it only in the manner they would.

First I like Choice, I think he's a good kid and he got blind-sided by this. I knew when he did it he had no idea of the ramifications. Second, yes you're right you do things for nephews and nieces, especially if you don't have kids. But I absolutely HATED what he did, so meet me in the middle.

Can you understand the perception of this and can you admit that there was a better time or place for it? He could've got it anytime...but not there.

Can we agree on that?

 

[fanfromvirginia]

Again, someone applying their own standard to Choice.

There is no single way to behave as a good uncle, but every good uncle has to love his nephew enough to do special things for him. Maybe what Choice did isn't what you would do, but, but if Choice was acting out of love for his nephew who are you or any of us to condemn it?

If you have a nephew that you love, it's very likely that you do things for him that somebody else may not, but that doesn't make it wrong. The important thing is to have the feeling for your nephew in your heart, and if you do it's BS for anyone to suggest you have to show it only in the manner they would.

I'm sure he loves his nephew. I admire that part. But not everything that everyone does out of love is a good thing to do. I know, of course, that different people believe different things. There are far worse crimes than torturing dogs and it may not be universally bad. I'm sure satanism, sadism and nihilism, off the top of my head all could find room for dog torturing within their moral/ethical parameters. But it's close enough in my book to an inherently bad thing to do.

Choice gets to do whatever he wants for his nephew for whatever reasons he wants. I get to gripe about it on the internets.

 

[Stautner]

First I like Choice, I think he's a good kid and he got blind-sided by this. I knew when he did it he had no idea of the ramifications. Second, yes you're right you do things for nephews and nieces, especially if you don't have kids. But I absolutely HATED what he did, so meet me in the middle.

Can you understand the perception of this and can you admit that there was a better time or place for it? He could've got it anytime...but not there.

Can we agree on that?

For the most part I can agree with that, and have said pretty much the same thing in previous posts. I've said several times that he was trying to do something good for his nephew and didn't think through the fact that the cameras would catch it or what the fans reaction would be.

My first reaction to this was negative just like it was with others, but once I found out it was for his nephew my thought was pretty much what you said.

Maybe he should have thought about the perception, but in his desire to do something good he just didn't. I can't find a way to make that a major issue, and especially in a day where players, hug each other, laugh with each other, joke around with each other and pray with each other after games.

The culture today is not like people want to make it out to be. The teams don't have the bitter hatred people want to believe, and they don't leave the field with the utter disdain for each other that some imagine. Maybe some players in the past wouldn't have done what choice did, but those same players also wouldn't have hugged and laughed and joked with the other team either as is standard in todays NFL.

Maybe that's a bad thing, and maybe the game has lost something because that's the culture in the NFL today, but that's the culture Choice knows. As much as fans may want to see the NFL a certain way, today's player, including Choice, are not indoctrinated into the Ray Nitschke, Chuck Bednarick, Dick Butkus NFL.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Would it be ok with everyone if they held hands and prayed together in a big circle after the game?

 

[Stautner]

Would it be ok with everyone if they held hands and prayed together in a big circle after the game?

They do that.

 

[TheCount]

Do you actually believe Choice's 2 or 3 year-old nephew wanted Vick's autograph. Would the kid really know what an autograph is? He's a pretty smart kid.

lol, that's actually a good point I hadn't thought of, what 2 year old is asking for an autograph?

 

[Faerluna]

ESPN Crew: "It happens all the time. It's really not a big deal."

 

[Vintage]

ESPN Crew: "It happens all the time. It's really not a big deal."

You mean the ESPN crew that features former players like Mike Ditka, Cris Carter, Keyshawn Johnson, and Tom Jackson.....

As opposed to all of us, who never did anything in the NFL...

 

[Faerluna]

You mean the ESPN crew that features former players like Mike Ditka, Cris Carter, Keyshawn Johnson, and Tom Jackson.....

As opposed to all of us, who never did anything in the NFL...

What would they know anyway?

 

[Bleu Star]

Cowboys' Tashard Choice posts apology for Michael Vick autograph

Posted at 9:31 AM on Mon., Dec. 13, 2010 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
Bill Nichols / Reporter Bio | E-mail | News tips
Tashard Choice will take much heat for securing Michael Vick's autograph after the Dallas Cowboys' loss to the Eagles Sunday night.

On Monday morning, the running back apologized to fans with this post on Twitter:

``If its anybody that cares about winning and the d cowboys its me. I apologize to the people it was just an innocent jesture for my nephew.''

Read more:http://cowboysblog.***BANNED-URL***/archives/2010/12/choice-posts-apology-for-seeki.html?

Funny that the bolded part still hasn't quieted the blind hatred... :laugh2: Go go gadget hate machine! :laugh2:

 

[Wrangler87]

lol, that's actually a good point I hadn't thought of, what 2 year old is asking for an autograph?

Yeah, believe that BS if you want to. Choice wanted the autograph because Choice is a thug just like Vick, and he embarassed the franchise on national television. The two year old kid story is called damage control. He cannot be gone soon enough for me.

Is there any wonder why Garrett doesn't seem to like him?

 

[Bleu Star]

Choice is a strong talent with an excellent future as a Dallas Cowboy. His gesture was innocent and family related... The game was over. This isn't the 50s. That era will never return. Get over it. Players actually shake hands, chat it up on the field, exchange numbers, plan after parties, and even (GASP) pray together after games. Sadly some of our fans have no idea how quickly players are ushered off to planes to fly back home. I find it even more silly that the media machine allows many of our fans to be poisoned by it's propaganda. I swear, the media would probably lead some of us right off of a cliff without one question as to why the orderly walk towards an area that appears to end.

I just figured I would post something to encourage another 15 pages of silliness! :laugh2: