Officially Texas-OU Week!

[jimmy40]

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Texas has a great offense and a great qb and OU's defense went out there and shut it down. I haven't been as impressed with our defense in quite some time now.

Colorado held us to 35 yards rushing on 21 carries. Just sayin

 

[8FOR!3]

It doesn't matter who's ranked 3rd right now, Alabama and Florida are an upset waiting to happen. I'm willing to bet one of the two will slip and get a loss. Probably Bama, but only because they've got two toughs games coming up. Especially LSU.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

You mean like Oklahoma does every yr in a a BCS game?

Every yr is different but I am a huge believer that the SEC is by far the best conference, especially in terms of NFL calibar defensive talent. And it isnt close.

The Big 12 is not that good this yr, but the SEC is down a little too. I honestly dont think there are any truly "great" teams, rather some good ones and some above average ones.

USC will probably get screwed again, and we'll see a match up of an SEC and Big 12 team for the national championship, a game which will be extremely boring and not really settle who's the best team debate.

No playoff= pathetically stupid

We aint Oklahoma David. You, of all people, should know that.

But I do agree with your statement about playoffs. We Horns fans understand the whole, "Get Screwed" concept.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Because they are the champions of the world and until someone beats the best than they will remain the best.

No. Florida is Champion of the College world.

As far as Florida, well, I don't have a problem with them getting ranked higher then Texas or Bama in the preseason polls. I do have a big problem with the way they get ranked from here on out. They should have lost to Arkansas fair and square. The BCS will do what it always does. I know that but nobody is going to tell me that Florida is any better then Texas right now. That's just not what I have seen this year.

 

[Shady12]

I hate the BCS and want a playoff.. I hate that we all have to have these discussions about getting screwed, what has to happen for ___ to happen etc. If an SEC and B12 team end up undefeated, USC won't be getting screwed..they lost to Washington. That said there's no way to have a real champion in a sport without playoffs.. I'd like to see a 16 team playoff. Has to be at least 8 to be legit.

 

[CATCH17]

No. Florida is Champion of the College world.

As far as Florida, well, I don't have a problem with them getting ranked higher then Texas or Bama in the preseason polls. I do have a big problem with the way they get ranked from here on out. They should have lost to Arkansas fair and square. The BCS will do what it always does. I know that but nobody is going to tell me that Florida is any better then Texas right now. That's just not what I have seen this year.

Hey if Texas and Florida play each other i'll be cheering for Texas believe me.

But until Colt McCoy starts to play like Colt McCoy than I would take Florida over Texas.


Floridas ability to run the ball Offensively would be a big advantage for them in that game IMO.

The Texas defense is built to stop a finesse offense like the Sooners.

Florida or Alabama are going to run right straight at you.

I just don't think Texas could beat Florida at this point in the season but Colt can be magical and if he starts getting the magic back than it may be a different story.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Hey if Texas and Florida play each other i'll be cheering for Texas believe me.

But until Colt McCoy starts to play like Colt McCoy than I would take Florida over Texas.


Floridas ability to run the ball Offensively would be a big advantage for them in that game IMO.

The Texas defense is built to stop a finesse offense like the Sooners.

Florida or Alabama are going to run right straight at you.

I just don't think Texas could beat Florida at this point in the season but Colt can be magical and if he starts getting the magic back than it may be a different story.

I don't know that I agree with this Catch. I mean, everybody talks down the Big 12 for the wide open passing offenses but I think it's a lot harder to stop the running game when you have to defend a good passing offense. To me, neither Florida or Bama have a very good passing offense. I guess we'll see.

I mean, the only team in the SEC in the top 50 Passing Offenses are the Razorbacks at 14. Passing defense, Bama is good but Florida isn't even in the top 100. The SEC is supposed to be known for it's defense and, to a certain extent, I think that's true. However, SEC does not look as strong to me as they have in the past. They have no good offense in that league, other then maybe Arkansas and they just don't look all that great to me either with their QB situation.

I guess we'll see.

 

[Shady12]

I saw a post somewhere else with the SOS of Florida, Texas, and Alabama, and opponents win/loss records of all 3. Texas looked good compared to the other two. And giving up an avg. of 7 rushing yards a game the last several games. Less than a first down a game if you put all the rushing plays together. Yeah I'd like to see Florida have much success running against the D that puts up those numbers without a good passing game.

There are a lot of good signs pointing to the Texas offense turning the corner as well. Once they really went to the running game against OU, they had success, due to finally planning for Colt to run, and showing some motion and misdirection which is a must to have success running out of the shotgun.

Also the depth chart for Saturday came out today, Chiles and Kirkendoll are being replaced in the starting lineup by Goodwin and Malcolm Williams. I think that will be an upgrade, a huge upgrade in speed. On paper the O should be as good as last season, I think they'll get there. If Colt and the offense get it going up to their potential they'll start looking like the #1 team.

 

[CATCH17]

I don't know that I agree with this Catch. I mean, everybody talks down the Big 12 for the wide open passing offenses but I think it's a lot harder to stop the running game when you have to defend a good passing offense. To me, neither Florida or Bama have a very good passing offense. I guess we'll see.

I mean, the only team in the SEC in the top 50 Passing Offenses are the Razorbacks at 14. Passing defense, Bama is good but Florida isn't even in the top 100. The SEC is supposed to be known for it's defense and, to a certain extent, I think that's true. However, SEC does not look as strong to me as they have in the past. They have no good offense in that league, other then maybe Arkansas and they just don't look all that great to me either with their QB situation.

I guess we'll see.

I agree but when you can run the ball as effectively as those 2 teams than why pass?

You can cut down on so many mistakes just by being able to run the ball and you can open up big plays in the passing game.


Florida and Alabama don't look for a consistent passing attack but they do look for their run to set up big plays through out the game.


This has nothing to do with the Big 12 vs the SEC for me. It has to do with Texas vs Florida or Bama.

If im attacking Texas the last thing I want to do is throw a lot of passes.

Muschamp disguises blitzes well and he has about 4 corners that can start and a Safety that is going to be a future first round pick.

Texas, to me, is a little soft in the middle and they are more of a finesse defense imo. They are built to stop the high powered big 12 passing offenses.

So I would do exactly what Florida and Bama do great and thats run right at them.




On Offense Colt hasn't lit it up this year. I think what could instantly fix this is to put Shipley back in the slot and put Chiles and Goodwin out wide as the X and Z. Move Shipley around.


I just dont think Texas could beat Florida or Alabama until Colt McCoy gets back to playing at a high level because the time he is capable of buying in the pocket can crush teams.


But Colt, like Tony Romo, seems to be doing to much thinking on not playing Colt McCoy/Tony Romo style football.


Colts a bigtime playmaker. Go be a bigtime playmaker and dont try and play the game like someone else.

 

[DallasCowpoke]

Also the depth chart for Saturday came out today, Chiles and Kirkendoll are being replaced in the starting lineup by Goodwin and Malcolm Williams.

FINALLY!! Sending either one of those two on some deep routes, completed or not, would have made a world of difference in OU's determination to blitz the Dickens out of us all 1st half.

 

[CATCH17]

FINALLY!! Sending either one of those two on some deep routes, completed or not, would have made a world of difference in OU's determination to blitz the Dickens out of us all 1st half.

Texas shot themselves in the foot in the 1st half.

Way to many 3rd and longs.

I do remember 1 3rd and 1 and Davis threw a pass though.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I agree but when you can run the ball as effectively as those 2 teams than why pass?

You can cut down on so many mistakes just by being able to run the ball and you can open up big plays in the passing game.


Florida and Alabama don't look for a consistent passing attack but they do look for their run to set up big plays through out the game.


This has nothing to do with the Big 12 vs the SEC for me. It has to do with Texas vs Florida or Bama.

If im attacking Texas the last thing I want to do is throw a lot of passes.

Muschamp disguises blitzes well and he has about 4 corners that can start and a Safety that is going to be a future first round pick.

Texas, to me, is a little soft in the middle and they are more of a finesse defense imo. They are built to stop the high powered big 12 passing offenses.

So I would do exactly what Florida and Bama do great and thats run right at them.




On Offense Colt hasn't lit it up this year. I think what could instantly fix this is to put Shipley back in the slot and put Chiles and Goodwin out wide as the X and Z. Move Shipley around.


I just dont think Texas could beat Florida or Alabama until Colt McCoy gets back to playing at a high level because the time he is capable of buying in the pocket can crush teams.


But Colt, like Tony Romo, seems to be doing to much thinking on not playing Colt McCoy/Tony Romo style football.


Colts a bigtime playmaker. Go be a bigtime playmaker and dont try and play the game like someone else.

I don't really understand this. Texas is ranked 13th in total offense in the Nation. They are ranked 1st in Total Scoring. They are 1st in the Nation in Rush Defense. They are 6th in the Nation in total Defense. They play in what is probably the best offensive conference in the Nation.

Florida can run the football but we can stop the run. Florida can't defend the pass and we can through the ball and score.

To me, Bama is the SEC team that I would be more affraid of. I just don't see what everybody is in love with when it comes to Florida. Good team but I don't think they are near as good as what many think.

Texas needs to get there backs healthy. Once this happens, things will improve in that area. I'm not affraid of the SEC. I think the SEC is down this year and what's interesting is that most thought the same at the start of the season but since then, have gone back to the SEC is invincible position. I don't think so. I think the SEC is very vulnerable this year.

 

[CATCH17]

I don't really understand this. Texas is ranked 13th in total offense in the Nation. They are ranked 1st in Total Scoring. They are 1st in the Nation in Rush Defense. They are 6th in the Nation in total Defense. They play in what is probably the best offensive conference in the Nation.

Those rankings are flawed though.

Colorado and Tech don't have the best of running attacks and OU plays into what is Texas strength with a sideline to sideline attack.

The OU Offensive line is one of the worst lines for a top 25 team too.

OU is also the best defensive team Texas has faced and I will say this OU is playing better defense than in years past. They aren't giving up the big plays but they also got their safeties backed up to midfield the majority of the time too.



I love the Texas defense and if Texas has a lead than they will be a tough bunch to come back on.

What im not liking is their running attack hasn't shown that it is all that great and Colt McCoy isn't playing at his highest level.


Alabama and Florida both look more physical on the Offensive side of the ball as well.

When Colt gets back to being a playmaker then we'll be talking.

Until then don't count your eggs before they hatch because Mizzou is up next and they may be better this year than they were a year ago.

Mizzou is playing better defense and Gabbert is a much more talented QB than Chase Daniels.

 

[joseephuss]

Hey if Texas and Florida play each other i'll be cheering for Texas believe me.

But until Colt McCoy starts to play like Colt McCoy than I would take Florida over Texas.


Floridas ability to run the ball Offensively would be a big advantage for them in that game IMO.

The Texas defense is built to stop a finesse offense like the Sooners.

Florida or Alabama are going to run right straight at you.

I just don't think Texas could beat Florida at this point in the season but Colt can be magical and if he starts getting the magic back than it may be a different story.

Maybe Colt McCoy is playing like Colt McCoy.

He had his highs last season and his lows his sophomore year. This is the middle ground and what McCoy is truly all about.

 

[CATCH17]

Maybe Colt McCoy is playing like Colt McCoy.

He had his highs last season and his lows his sophomore year. This is the middle ground and what McCoy is truly all about.

The biggest thing hurting him right now is the running game.


Greg Davis hasn't been committed to it all year and whats teams are doing is they are playing zone coverage and just keeping everything in front of them.

Its tough to throw into the teeth of zone defenses every play.


Texas is ok though. They are sitting right where they need to be but Mizzou has the best passing attack they have seen so far.

 

[Shady12]

They did run the ball well Saturday once they committed to it. And the key is Colt running and misdirection..Stuff they'll do the rest of the year.

Shipley is moving back to the slot with 6'3" 220 speedster Williams and speedster Williams on the outisde. Forget Chiles. Shipley in the slot on those two guys in the starting lineup could be huge.

And saying the rush D stats are skewed..Even if they are a little, and they'd played better rushing offenses they'd still have dominant stats just maybe not #1. Still a great matchup vs what Florida does. I don't think they are soft in the middle. Lamarr Houston has been a beast. And Ben Alexander has been unexpectedly strong in the middle. It did hurt losing Norton the starting MLB in the first game..Muckelroy moved inside and he's their best LB.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Those rankings are flawed though.

Colorado and Tech don't have the best of running attacks and OU plays into what is Texas strength with a sideline to sideline attack.

The OU Offensive line is one of the worst lines for a top 25 team too.

OU is also the best defensive team Texas has faced and I will say this OU is playing better defense than in years past. They aren't giving up the big plays but they also got their safeties backed up to midfield the majority of the time too.



I love the Texas defense and if Texas has a lead than they will be a tough bunch to come back on.

What im not liking is their running attack hasn't shown that it is all that great and Colt McCoy isn't playing at his highest level.


Alabama and Florida both look more physical on the Offensive side of the ball as well.

When Colt gets back to being a playmaker then we'll be talking.

Until then don't count your eggs before they hatch because Mizzou is up next and they may be better this year than they were a year ago.

Mizzou is playing better defense and Gabbert is a much more talented QB than Chase Daniels.

OK, but if you look at it from that point of view, isn't Florida and the SEC also flawed? They have nobody in that conference that can throw the ball and take advantage of the secondary. I mean, it's easy to stack the line and shut down the run if your playing for the run. Florida has playen who who can expose a weak secondary? The only team was Arkansas, who would be considered a poor offense in the Big 12 South and they pretty much beat Florida.

I think you gotta look at all sides here Catch. Also, if you rewatch OU, I think you'll be surprised at how much Zero Coverage they played against Texas. OU was selling out for pressure. I was shocked at how open the middle of the field was. If we would have run the Seam route with the TE, I think we could have gotten an easy score on them.

 

[CATCH17]

They did run the ball well Saturday once they committed to it. And the key is Colt running and misdirection..Stuff they'll do the rest of the year.

Shipley is moving back to the slot with 6'3" 220 speedster Williams and speedster Williams on the outisde. Forget Chiles. Shipley in the slot on those two guys in the starting lineup could be huge.

And saying the rush D stats are skewed..Even if they are a little, and they'd played better rushing offenses they'd still have dominant stats just maybe not #1. Still a great matchup vs what Florida does.

I'll give you that. At least in the 2nd half they did.

I think Whitaker is their best back and I also think that Greg Davis needs to learn what a fullback is and on 3rd and short give it to Cody Johnson with a fullback in front of him and pick up the first.

Im a big Colt McCoy fan. I have been since he was a freshman and I was one of the very very few saying he had a chance at the Heisman last year when most were saying he was the 4th or 5th best QB in the conference before the season started.

I believe in Colt. I think he should've been the Heisman last year and Bradford in no way could've done what Colt did with the same team.

Bradfords job was easy because his Offensive line was incredible and gave him all day to throw.

But right now I just haven't seen Colt break out of his shell and be the great player that he is.

He is trying to do things the "right way" instead of doing things the Colt McCoy way.

He is a playmaker at that position and these guys who are playmakers need to stop trying to be like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I'll give you that. At least in the 2nd half they did.

I think Whitaker is their best back and I also think that Greg Davis needs to learn what a fullback is and on 3rd and short give it to Cody Johnson with a fullback in front of him and pick up the first.

Im a big Colt McCoy fan. I have been since he was a freshman and I was one of the very very few saying he had a chance at the Heisman last year when most were saying he was the 4th or 5th best QB in the conference before the season started.

I believe in Colt. I think he should've been the Heisman last year and Bradford in no way could've done what Colt did with the same team.

Bradfords job was easy because his Offensive line was incredible and gave him all day to throw.

But right now I just haven't seen Colt break out of his shell and be the great player that he is.

He is trying to do things the "right way" instead of doing things the Colt McCoy way.

He is a playmaker at that position and these guys who are playmakers need to stop trying to be like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady.

I think the difference in Colt this year and last is experience at the skilled positions. This year, other then Ship, we have young WRs, young TE and young backs with little experience. He's throwing TOs because there are a lot of miss run routes. He's holding back because he doesn't know what the receivers are going to do in any given pattern. As time goes on, he's going to get more tuned with these guys and the passing game will get better. It's just going to take time. His numbers are not going to be as good this year as they have been in years past but, if we go into the Big 12 championship game unbeaten, it's likely that he will have turned in the best performance at QB he's ever had IMO.

 

[Shady12]

I agree about Colt.. part of it was them telling him not to run until OU I guess to cut down on the risk of injury. But I think he'll do his thing in that regard from here on out. It opens up a lot offensively if he's getting called runs and takes off in the passing game when the opportunity presents itself. We'll see..he has to play better.