Officiating crew for the game? Hochuli & Crew

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Ozzu;3207208 said:
No, no, and no. I'm never going to buy "the refs are out to get us" thing.

You must have missed the Green Bay game when the refs called the game to save their season.

We get screwed over in at least 90% of our games with noncalls or total BS calls.
 

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Faerluna;3207247 said:
If you think that Ed is going to risk his job and reputation as a ref to blatantly screw us over in front of millions of fans/players/owners that will be watching, then you have a serious paranoia complex.

Just to refresh the memory of what Jerry actually said, which included nothing slanderous or derogatory to Ed personally:

And how exactly is Hercules risking his job by screwing us over??? I didnt see jack happen to the refs that handed the Steelers the bowl. I didnt see jack happen to the refs up in Green Bay that ****ed us sideways.

Hey, if you want to think Hecules has totally forgotten about the incident and holds no ill will towards the Cowboys or Jerry, thats your perogative and I hope you are right about that.

I just find that hard to believe. You know what they say about paranoia, its another term for "heightened awareness".
 

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casmith07;3204637 said:
This thread is ridiculous. Ed Hochuli is probably the best referee in the game.

If it wasn't for that blunder in the Chargers-Broncos game last year, nobody would be saying any of this right now. Same goes for Mike Carey - I have a lot of respect for him, although his crew seems to flag for hands to the face and illegal use of hands a little too much for my liking.

As with most, if not all, games, I'm sure we'll have a call or two to gripe about or emphasize to point out the officials are out to get us.

The officials are going to miss some, but hopefully it will end up balanced and won't be any that affect the outcome of the game.
 

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Beast_from_East;3208814 said:
You know what they say about paranoia, its another term for "heightened awareness".

Who says that? Paranoid people?
 

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Ed Hochuli and his crew have not done a cowboy game since Jerry got fined $25k for saying Ed messed up the Broncos Chargers game!

This is very fishy.
 

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Is there any crew that wouldn't produce mass *****ing?
 

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Beast_from_East;3207201 said:
You dont think he might be a little pissed off the way Jerry called him out last year???

You dont think he might be inclined to look a little harder at the oline for holding or to look a little closer at the contact with a wr for PI???

You dont think Hercules is thinking "**** YOU" to himself everytime he looks up at Jerrys sky box???



Dude, we will be playing both Philly and the refs Saturday. Lets just hope the game is not close enough for it to matter.

You think he holds a grudge for someone saying that? I'd be he heres worse on a weekly basis.
 

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Beast_from_East;3208814 said:
And how exactly is Hercules risking his job by screwing us over??? I didnt see jack happen to the refs that handed the Steelers the bowl. I didnt see jack happen to the refs up in Green Bay that ****ed us sideways.

Refs are graded each week after their games. They go through play by play and see what they did well and see what they missed. Those grades contribute to an overall score for their crews, the best of whom get to work the playoffs and Superbowl.

No, you didn't see anything happen to the refs for any missed calls, because that's not information the general public is privy to, and has never been as far as I know.
 

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I have absolute faith in Ed Hochuli and his crew. There is not a doubt in my mind that they would never try and repay Jerry for his comments. I think Hochuli was genuinely contrite after his flub up in the Broncos - Chargers game and he was harder on himself than Jerry ever could have been. I think he and his crew are men of honor. Will there be human error? It is possible. That's the nature of being human, we can't walk on water. Will it be on purpose? Of course not, and any idea differently is ludicrous.

IMNSHO
 

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Hypnotoad;3208885 said:
Ed Hochuli and his crew have not done a cowboy game since Jerry got fined $25k for saying Ed messed up the Broncos Chargers game!

This is very fishy.
It's not that fishy, at all. There was an article on ESPN.com awhile back about how the league manages the placement of officials when there's an issue surrounding the officiating crew and a team or coach.

Hoofbite;3208976 said:
Is there any crew that wouldn't produce mass *****ing?
None whatsoever.
 

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Hostile;3208998 said:
I have absolute faith in Ed Hochuli and his crew. There is not a doubt in my mind that they would never try and repay Jerry for his comments. I think Hochuli was genuinely contrite after his flub up in the Broncos - Chargers game and he was harder on himself than Jerry ever could have been. I think he and his crew are men of honor. Will there be human error? It is possible. That's the nature of being human, we can't walk on water. Will it be on purpose? Of course not, and any idea differently is ludicrous.

IMNSHO

Well said.
 

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Hostile;3208998 said:
I have absolute faith in Ed Hochuli and his crew. There is not a doubt in my mind that they would never try and repay Jerry for his comments. I think Hochuli was genuinely contrite after his flub up in the Broncos - Chargers game and he was harder on himself than Jerry ever could have been. I think he and his crew are men of honor. Will there be human error? It is possible. That's the nature of being human, we can't walk on water. Will it be on purpose? Of course not, and any idea differently is ludicrous.

IMNSHO

True this. The man sat down and answered every letter and email sent to him by angry San Diego fans after that game. That in and of itself tells you what a high standard he holds himself to. Jerry's comments were water off a duck's butt in comparison to what he read in those letters.
 

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Hostile;3208998 said:
I have absolute faith in Ed Hochuli and his crew. There is not a doubt in my mind that they would never try and repay Jerry for his comments. I think Hochuli was genuinely contrite after his flub up in the Broncos - Chargers game and he was harder on himself than Jerry ever could have been. I think he and his crew are men of honor. Will there be human error? It is possible. That's the nature of being human, we can't walk on water. Will it be on purpose? Of course not, and any idea differently is ludicrous.

IMNSHO

...says the man that likely knows Hochuli semi-personally.

Take heed, Zoners.
 

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Why worry about the officials when you're playing Philly? They're the most penalized team, or second worst.
 

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casmith07;3209018 said:
...says the man that likely knows Hochuli semi-personally.

Take heed, Zoners.
I have not met him, but I shared some e-mails with him and he is a man of honor. His son is an attorney in the town just south of me and he used to live in Tucson. I'd shake his hand and eat a meal with him any day.
 

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Blue&Silver;3209020 said:
Why worry about the officials when you're playing Philly? They're the most penalized team, or second worst.

Poor coaching and no accountability!11!!

Yeah.

And without looking it up, I'm pretty sure everyone's darling Green Bay Packers finished the #1 most penalized in the league.
 

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This goes way back to 1996.

One can only wonder what NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue was thinking when he presented Cowboys' owner Jerry Jones the Vince Lombardi Trophy, after Dallas' 27-17 victory.

Only a few hours before Sunday's game, Tagliabue, on ABC's "This Week With David Brinkley," lashed out at Jones for his marketing deals.

"Jerry Jones dishonors the agreement he made when he came into the NFL partnership," Tagliabue said. "He takes what does not belong to him. The NFL is what we sell. It belongs to 30 teams, not the Dallas Cowboys."


Tagliabue went to war with Jerry another time over the Deon Sanders contract. According to Jerry Jones, Tagliabue told Jerry that he would take The Thanksgiving day game away, and Jerry would never see the Cowboys in a nationally televised game, again.

In "NFL private circles", it is well known that Tagliabue told certain owners, that Jerry Jones would never make it to another Super Bowl as long as he was commissioner."

Since Roger is Tagliabue's stepchild, I wonder if the feeling still stands?
 

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Hoofbite;3208980 said:
You think he holds a grudge for someone saying that? I'd be he heres worse on a weekly basis.

Jerry was fined $25K for his comments about Hercules.

So the ref may hear worse on a weekly basis from coaches, but not from owners. In fact, I cant remember any other owner getting fined recently for criticizing a specific referee.
 
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