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mickgreen58 said:
I would love to do something about both Guard positions and probably Center.

Right now, I think it is too much to ask of the coaching staff to replace 4 starters on the offensive line in 1 Offseason.

Right Tackle was clearly the biggest issue and it must be addressed first.

My dream scenario would to be to have a Tackle fall in the 2nd Round, which would open up the possibility to draft Santonio Holmes and maybe get a Center off the Free Agent Market.

You come away with a Young and speedy receiver
You get a top notch Tackle in the 2nd Round
You get a pretty good center to help us out

I am just hoping to God Rivera just had a fluke down year or all the problems at other positions contributed to his poor play.

He, Allen and Flozell were suppose to be the shining light....

- Mike G.


Allen scares the hell out of me. He has been in a decline for a few years now and sooner or later, he's gonna bottom out on us.

Rivera....maybe it was the injury...maybe the Packers knew something and figured he wasn't worth the money.

But I'd see both as serviceable.

I'd want to see a Tackle and a Center added.

I think the Jets might let Mawaii go...he's an oldtimer, coming off a injury and a guy that Parcells brought to the Jets. It wouldn't surprise me if Parcells went after him if the Jets let him walk.
 

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Juke99 said:
Allen scares the hell out of me. He has been in a decline for a few years now and sooner or later, he's gonna bottom out on us.

Rivera....maybe it was the injury...maybe the Packers knew something and figured he wasn't worth the money.

But I'd see both as serviceable.

I'd want to see a Tackle and a Center added.

I think the Jets might let Mawaii go...he's an oldtimer, coming off a injury and a guy that Parcells brought to the Jets. It wouldn't surprise me if Parcells went after him if the Jets let him walk.

Yeah, I have hope that we dont wait until Allen is gone until we thinking about replacing because Parcells is here.

Mawae would be an immediate upgrade, but this past year is really the only year where he missed a significant amount of games.

Any idea how much he is counting towards their cap or is he a Free Agent? I know the Jets have some issues with their cap and some good players may hit the streets.

If anything, he can rotate with Johnson and maybe Gurode.

- Mike G.
 

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Billy Bullocks said:
With the emergence of Patrick Crayton, I think that the team will be less inclined to go WR in the 1st round. Crayton had a break out start to this last season, but I'm counting on him to come up big for us.
I think we're placing way too much hope/faith in Crayton. I hope he works out, but for now he appears to be a #3 WR at best. If a top prospect is available in the first 2 rounds, I think we should take him.
 

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wayne_motley said:
I really don't see Parcells overhauling the OL as much as we fans would love to see it. As a matter of fact, I don't think we'll see more than 1 change on opening day...possibly none.

LT: Flozel Adams returns...that position is his.

LG: Larry Allen isn't going anywhere...it's been shown that cutting him is not a smart move this year financially...better to keep him, and at that salary, it won't be to stand on the sidelines.

C: This would be my personal favorite area to improve because I think a legitimate/top center would have a bigger impact on our running game and Pass protection than a new RT...the pocket must be solid up the middle so Bledsoe doesn't focus on the rush and so he can step up to avoid the outside rush.

RG: We all know it's true...Rivera is the starter again next year...period.

RT: Don't be surprised if the competition comes down to Pettitti who now has a season under his belt and Tucker who pleasantly surprised Parcells with his improvement while playing the tougher side of the line. I wouldn't be surprised if a FA OT is brought in just for insurance, but I don't think it will be a top line guy who is sure to start.

A combination/competition between Pettitti and Tucker will be better than this year if for no other reason than another year of development and strength...and if Adams is on the other side, even if neither of these guys turns out to be ideal, we can cover for 1 OT...most teams do.

Free Agency/Draft:I'd love to bring in another Center, but I won't be surprised if we go with the same guys. I don't see Parcells drafting an OT in round 1 or 2 because it's unlikely either round would produce an automatic day 1 starter...recently, most top OT's have actually been playing OG for a year or two. I don't see Parcells wanting to spend a day 1 pick on an OL...shocking as that may be.

I think we'll trade down in the first round to garner an extra #2 if we can find a partner. I believe after FA is over, Parcells will want to draft a LB, FS, WR, and either another TE or OL on day 1. He'll want guys who can either start as rookies or make an impact in a rotation.

As for the OL, when cooler heads prevail and Adams returns, I'm not convinced Parcells will want to invest a top draft pick or FA money on a top O'lineman unless it's a center in FA.

Those calling for an OL overhaul are in for a shock, imo. I think he expects to have LT fixed with Adams, at least the same out of LA, better out of Rivera in his 2nd year back from injury, better play and competition out of Tucker/Pettitti if only one of them has to play at RT, and improved play out of either Johnson or Gurode.

Call me crazy, but I'm not holding my breath when FA opens...I think the only signings we could possibly see would be WR or TE (depth) and LB or C or FS(starters if anyone is signed).

Parcells isn't going to sit on his ***, we never had the power running game going that he covets, you can bet on him at least infusing some talented depth
 

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baj1dallas said:
Petiti may see competition from a rookie but I expect it will be a later round pick, unless somebody slides. I don't see any reason to believe Jones will go after more linemen in FA.

Jerry and BP would be fools to leave the Oline completely unaddressed, our Oline is like the RCB situation we had a year ago, they will do at least something to help shore that up, most likely signing a veteran RT to compete with Pettiti, and drafting a couple young ones in the draft for depth

and don't forget we have Peterman waiting, and we have to see what they do with Gurode, re-sign him or let him leave
 

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Guess Jerry Jones' statement we were going to do everything to get this team ready to win is worth as much a dime. If we go with the same OL or just add a new RT, we will repeat the same record again. It could even be worse cause LA will be 1 year older as well Riveria. Parcells can wish and hope all he wants, but how soon into the season will reality strike.

I'm glad Parcells came back & I support his rebuilding of our team. But have to tell you if our OL tanks again this year because Jones & Parcells unrealistically evaluated their performance, then it is time for a change at the top.
 

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MichaelWinicki said:
Exactly. These folks that think we're going to bring in a new starting C, G and RT are out of their minds. It ain't happening.

yep

continuity is huge for Oline, just like in every aspect of the game, they all need to be able to trust each other, and know each's assignment, basically they need to mesh, and that only happens through continuity and seeing the same guys lining up with you every day for a good amount of time

but I expect a veteran to be brought in via FA to compete with Pettiti for RT, that's a huge weakness right now
 

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We'll have at least 3 new lineman on the roster and 1 new starter minimum (LA). RT will be added in 2-3 range to compete with Petiti.

Doesn't make sense financially too add a Runyan type with the depth at OT in draft.

Guards are old. Draft at least one.
 

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ddh33 said:
I still think that Peterman is going to be fine as a guard too. Eventually, I think he replaces Larry Allen. You probably need to start thinking about another guard to replace Rivera though, and I think Dallas can find someone like that in the third round.

If you bring in someone to help Al Johnson and Rob Pettiti (Columbo?)in free agency, then you are looking much better on the line.

My point is, it may not even need as much retooling as everyone thinks. Just get more quality depth.

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Juke99 said:
Rivera....maybe it was the injury...maybe the Packers knew something and figured he wasn't worth the money.

the Packers were exactly 1 mil under the cap when we signed Rivera
 

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mickgreen58 said:
Yeah, I have hope that we dont wait until Allen is gone until we thinking about replacing because Parcells is here.

Mawae would be an immediate upgrade, but this past year is really the only year where he missed a significant amount of games.

Any idea how much he is counting towards their cap or is he a Free Agent? I know the Jets have some issues with their cap and some good players may hit the streets.

If anything, he can rotate with Johnson and maybe Gurode.

- Mike G.

another veteran C to keep an eye on

Panther C Jeff Mitchell is a UFA, and I wouldn't be opposed to Parcells at least giving him the once over
 

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summerisfunner said:
yep

continuity is huge for Oline, just like in every aspect of the game, they all need to be able to trust each other, and know each's assignment, basically they need to mesh, and that only happens through continuity and seeing the same guys lining up with you every day for a good amount of time

but I expect a veteran to be brought in via FA to compete with Pettiti for RT, that's a huge weakness right now

Continuity is great except when you continue to put garbage on the field next to each other.

Then they amount to garbage that is use to being together.

Sprano made comments when he got OL gig that the perception of the group is that they underachieve.

It's a year later.

Pretty soon enough years go by and you aren't underachieving.

You just plain suck.

All Condo and Cortez needed was continuity.

Poor Suisham never got a chance.

Ladouceur and Cundiff just needed another year.

Uncle!!!

Enough is enough.
 

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We will most likely get a RT OR C in free agency, i seriously doubt that we get both. We need someone to replace Pettiti.
There are many T available, Runyan is a possibility, Backus, McDougle, Ashworth, Steussie. Those guys are all available, and im pretty sure we bring in one of them to START at RT over Pettiti. With that said, the line should look like this
Allen, Adams, Gurode, Rivera, FA RT

These are key Free Agent moves that I would love to see, and think should happen...........
-Backus/McDougle/Ashworth/Steussie/Runyan at RT
-Bentley at center
-Chavous/Hope at FS
-Vanderjagt/Vinateri/Longwell/Nedney at K

4 players is all im askin for.......a center, kicker, right tackle, and free safety............possibly a linebacker to replace Nguyen
 

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By the start of preseason, many here will state how our line has been revamped and what a great job Parcells did in the offseason assembling our OL. And then when we have trouble with our OL again next season, the players will again be blamed and the coaching staff will be excused for not having enough talent to work with.
 

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BP will get a RT in FA unless he sees that Columbo is going to make noise. He will have Pettiti in the weight room and doing agility drills and watching tape for the next 6 months. Pettiti has the size and the attitude and the want to; it just remains to be seen if he can work on his footwork and blocking skills and improve them enough to be a good RT. He will get stronger- but how much? THAT is the biggest question on the O line. Center is the other- BP will be looking hard at the tapes and wil have to make the decision on how he wants to address it. We either stand pat or get another center in FA.
Rivera cost too much to do anything about- and will be given a second chance. LA- I think he gets next year and thats it. JJ may ask him to rework his contract to free up money- how he reacts to that will tell the tale. From all accounts the Hotel is doing well in rehab- for a tackle you can get back to normal faster then a RB or any player that relies on speed and cutting ability.
 

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There will be changes to the OL - guaranteed. We will not be starting the same guys or or some combination of what we already have. If we do, next season is over before it begins.
 

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I think we will see at least 3 OL brought in in the offseason. Probably 1 or 2 via draft and at least one in FA.
The most vital position to replace our current starter IMO is Center. There are some big upgrades out there in FA, but not in the draft. I think its got to start there.
The best thing we could do elsewhere on the OL is wait to see if Hutchinson is going to make it to FA, if so, cut LA and sign Hutch immediately. I think we need to bring back Gurode also in case Rivera keeps stinking. At T, I think BP wants to give Pettiti another year but I also think he'll have a better backup plan so we draft another T. If we really wanted to solve some problems, we'd move Tucker inside to G also.

Probably one of our other biggest positions of need is LB. I think that we are going to be stronger there next season than we realize though. I think Kalen Thorton coming back is going to be a big boost, same with Burnett. Then we've got Ware, Fujita, and Fowler. I see us using a first day pick on a LB, but I think we'll have a good mix with some depth. I would assume Carpenter and Lawson are probably high on our watch list.

I'm going to guess that BP wants a vet FA so he brings someone in. Its usually not bankbreaking to sign a FA FS either so it won't kill us. We'll also have Berault back also but there sure are some tempting talents in the draft, esp day one...Ko, Huff, Williams, Allen...I just don't think we can afford to use a day one pick on a S when OL and LB are so much more pressing.

K, I have no doubt we sign someone of stature via FA. No way BP entertains the thought of a rookie K, esp after last year.

WR, Sadly, I see this position being one that probably gets ignored, unless some guy is a big steal late in the draft. I can't see us spending big money on a FA nor any FA wanting to come here to be the 3rd guy cuz we know that BP isn't benching TG or Key for anyone. If TO doesn't find a suitor and his price starts dropping...maybe Jerry does something crazy, but I doubt it. I definitely don't think we'll go after Randel El or Wayne. I just hope the foreskins don't get either of those guys either.

QB, this offseason will go a long long ways in determining our future at QB. If Henson doesn't tear up NFLE, I think he cleans out his locker at the Ranch. I think that means we start looking in 2007 draft...which could set up a run at my personal favorite....Brady Quinn.
 

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summerisfunner said:
the Packers were exactly 1 mil under the cap when we signed Rivera


Well, then I guess they were just lucky to have let him go.
 

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I may be in the minority but I thought our OL was playing fairly well early in the year until Adams went down. Then the wheels fell off. What that says to me is that either we bring in guys that can play as backups or we are one injury from missing the playoffs each year. It is way too easy to have someone roll up on your leg and be out, so you can't take that risk.

I suspect that Patetti (sp?) was an investment this year. They knew he would struggle and make some bad plays but they thought with Rivera, Allen, Adams, etc. that they could help him out, get a year under his belt and next year he would be a veteran RT. The plan backfired when we had a huge dropoff of quality in the backup to Adams. That then put more pressure on the rest of the line and you can't cover for 40% of your line. Again it goes back to having quality guys to step in when someone goes down. That was out weakness this year! IMHO.
 

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Last year was all about the defense. This year Bill will take care of his good buddy Drew and get him some hogs up front and another play maker.
 
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