Oh! Good Grief!!! Enough already!!

[kartr]

I respect your opinion Tuna, I just don't share it....I think a QB with the amount of ability that Henson was supposed to have, the probably #1 pick in the draft if he'd stayed in school, our supposed QB of the future and future star, should be able, after two off seasons in Dallas, two training camps, and a full season, be able to win the #2 spot over Tony Romo. Even Quincy Carter could beat out Tony Romo...Chad Hutchinson could beat out Tony Romo. Troy Aikman could come out of retirement and beat out Tony Romo.

I have no confidence in Tony Romo ever having much of a career in the NFL...if we were to cut him, I'm not even sure anyone would claim him at this point with their QB's already in camp and no reported injuries...he could possibly even make it to the practice squad.

I have never had any confidence that Henson could make it in the NFL after baseball....there's just too much to overcome for a QB who hasn't played much even in college.

Don't confuse that with wanting Henson to fail...I want him to be our #2 QB this year, and I'd love to see Romo cut and replaced with a veteran at the proper time.

There were many guys on this very board who claimed Henson would be starting last season by the end of training camp, or the middle of the year...surely he'd be starting this year...it was ridiculous...now suddenly they think it's okay that he be 3rd string for another couple of years. All things being equal, if he can't beat out Romo now, why would he catch up to Romo in the future when Romo will be the one getting the playing experience that comes up for grabs?

I fully expect Henson to take that #2 spot this year because talent should win out over much much less talent and even less actual game experience.

IF not, then I truly don't expect Henson to ever make it....your QB of the future, if he is indeed a rare talent, should at least be manning the #2 spot in his 2nd season, especially when there's no one of consequence in front of him....just my unpopular opinion...

Excellent post. You said it exactly right.

 

[kartr]

Wayne, you've never been afraid of expressing an unpopular opinion, and I'd never imagine you to want anyone to fail.

But you haven't addressed the physical 'setback' inherent in the revamping of the throwing motion, and its repercussions on the mental aspect of the game.

If Drew was roughly even with Tony last season, and had even surpassed him on the depth chart, (or was on a seesaw with him) what could account for the step(s) backward? Because while we don't know if Tony has actually gained ground, we do know Drew has lost it.

I really think Drew could have at the very least kept pace with Tony had he not had to so radically change the fundamental mechanic, and if had not spent the spring throwing 5000 plus passes trying to get his neuromuscular system to unlearn old habits.

Really, Wayne, if the passing motion had not been tinkered with, and I were reading those reports from camp, I'd be seriously doubting the player can make the transition too.

But the three steps forward the higher 'pitch' should result in is now being overshadowed by the two steps backward the throwing motion change dictates.

Drew's 'regression' is qualified , imo, and highly.

We shall see!

I read where Joe Gibbs spoke this very thing about Jason Campbell, he said he would never tinker with the throwing motion of his rookie qb's because it would throw them off. But with Henson, it doesn't really matter cause he just has too much to overcome. Hoping Henson will be the future is like hoping it'll starting raining money in your back yard so you don't have to go look for a job. For me, I believe we should go look for a job.

 

[kartr]

Why can't we just make the big move up in one of the next drafts('06 '07 or '08) and get the best QB in that draft. We get a QB coming right out of college. A QB who has not been away from the game 3+ years. And one who would probaly only need 1 year behind Bledsoe to learn and then he would be ready to start the next year.

We need to make this move. We need a REAL future franchise QB. No more projects please.

We can and should do this next year. We can't get Leinhart, but we can get a couple of others. Why should we wait and see on Henson, why put all your eggs in a long-shot basket for the next 3 years?

 

[kartr]

What if one of those projects is ready to start in a year or two?

And if they're not, we will have passed on another opportunity like we did this year and nothing to show for it at the qb position. If one of the projects does show something, we just trade them for picks. Problem solved.

 

[kartr]

Here's another 2nd player, the 5th pick in the draft last year.

Hmmmm... I wonder how he's performing.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050807/news_1s7chargers.html



Since everyone knows you can tell everything about a QB by his first week into his 2nd year, maybe the Chargers will dump him to us for a conditional 7th at the end of training camp. Then again Losman and Manning aren't exactly lighting it up in camp either, so I guess its pretty clear that the QB class of 2004 is horrible. The results are in.

Why would you want Rivers, he's slower than Bledsoe and has a weak arm.

 

[kartr]

Excellent post!! That was my point exactly in starting this thread. Drew has the pedigree, now he needs to get his mechanics lined out. I'm not really sure if they shouldn't have left them alone to begin with. The man could deliver the ball just fine the way he was. Sure there may be a slightly higher chance of having a ball batted down at the line of scrimmage with a lower delivery, but I doubt that that would have ever been a major problem. DH could really chunck a football. Hopefully this change in delivery want ruin his career. I personally think he will pull out of this and be the QB we all hope he can be!!

Pedigree = fantasy, see Tom Brady.

 

[kartr]

I am curious, what "Pedigree" does an 8 game starter (in college) posses? I mean dang QC had more wins in college than Henson and played in a tougher conference. I can also think of a few Heisman winners who have done poorly in the NFL. But since we are bringing in project QB's, anyone seen Charlie Ward running around?

A couple bad practices could leave you without a job. Remember what Bill said "Winning is our business."

What he said!!!

 

[SuspectCorner]

You are, of course, insisting upon a technically correct usage of the the term. However, it's sometimes used colloquially (and loosely, no doubt) to refer to quality evidenced in one's past (on the theory, I suppose, that being "purebred" is synonymous with being of "quality", and that past credentials are analogous to lineage). If it bothers you that much, however, I'm happy to stay with the more etymologically correct usage and drop my own usage of the term in connection with NFL QBs, except in reference to, say, the Mannings.

it bothers me only in that it implies some kinda birthright or inherent superior ability - when actual evidence of this is sorely lacking.

play on the NFL field determines who the "thoroughbreds" are. not some pumped-up highschool or college resume.

at this particular point in time i fail to see where henson has much, if anything, on any other QB struggling to make a career in pro football. including his so-called pedigree. his pedigree and a buck will get him a cup of coffee.

henson is ours so hope he'll come thru with flying colors. but, i assure you, it will have little to do with his "pedigree".