Ok, McFadden is a beast, but...

[alancdc]

Seriously, if anyone get's a chance to watch a Clemson game check out James Davis. If he played at USC or Texas he would be getting major run.

 

[ringmaster]

I like Hart too and if JJ is not resigned I think Hart is an ideal compliment to MBII. He is a nice inside runner, shifty and gets the most out of every play. I don't think he will be a star but he will be productive in the right scheme.

And we can probably get him late 1st to 2nd round.

It depends on which one of these guys fit our offensive scheme MB3, is our power back, and JuJu, is our open space back two styles every defense should account for.

To me the back who would fit right into our scheme as of right now would be Ray Rice, if JuJu, can't get it done.

But the McFadden pick will be very sexy for sure.

 

[superpunk]

There's no chance we let a young player like Marion Barber walk in favor of a player that's not even on the roster yet. There's some combination of money and playing time that will get a deal done. Dallas is too good a situation right now to walk away from if they're genuinely trying to keep you.

I just can't see how Barber would stay for anything less than the starter's job and the starter's money - and if that's true, I don't see how Dallas makes that happen if they draft a back high, which has been my hope for a while.

But Marion is doing all he can to make all of us forget about McFadden, Julius, or anyone else not wearing #24 and averaging 6.4 ypc and leading the league in TDs.

 

[dogunwo]

Dude, I was watching the game this weekend and thought that same thing. I am totally with you on this one and I am a NC State fan. This kid is seriously special. He might be the best back in the country that nobody knows about. If you haven't seen him play you need to. Hell, I like Spiller also, but Davis is a monster. If he played for a team that was on Natl TV more like a Michigan or USC everybody would be talking about this kid.

I wish more people would watch him, instead of just some youtube highlights, but you're right he doesnt get nearly the national exposure. Some smart team is going to take him in the bottom of the first, or the early second round.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Of course we'll drop Julius and Keep Barber. One is an UFA and the other isn't.

Thanks for the info.

I'm not talking about just after this year, but well into the future.

 

[ringmaster]

I just can't see how Barber would stay for anything less than the starter's job and the starter's money - and if that's true, I don't see how Dallas makes that happen if they draft a back high, which has been my hope for a while.

But Marion is doing all he can to make all of us forget about McFadden, Julius, or anyone else not wearing #24 and averaging 6.4 ypc and leading the league in TDs.

You have a point there but I think that Dallas will now keep a 2 back system so resigning either JuJu, or MB3 will be top priority.

So I see Dallas, keeping Barber when it all said and done and drafting another back if JuJu doesn't cash in.

 

[superpunk]

You have a point there but I think that Dallas will now keep a 2 back system so resigning either JuJu, or MB3 will be top priority.

So I see Dallas, keeping Barber when it all said and done and drafting another back if JuJu doesn't cash in.

K.

But why would Barber stay here, if we're just going to draft another back? Unless that back is another 4th rounder who would be backing Marion up?

 

[Idgit]

I just can't see how Barber would stay for anything less than the starter's job and the starter's money - and if that's true, I don't see how Dallas makes that happen if they draft a back high, which has been my hope for a while.

But Marion is doing all he can to make all of us forget about McFadden, Julius, or anyone else not wearing #24 and averaging 6.4 ypc and leading the league in TDs.

I think he gets starter's money no matter what. I'm not so sure the starter's job is as important to him if he carries are there. His quotes to the press are always about his role on the team, and he's notoriously shy in front of cameras. I'm also not so sure he wouldn't get the starter's job by then, anyway.

He's an unbelievable player and a team guy all the way. He's the kind of player you build a team around. I can't imagine Jerry letting a guy like that walk.

 

[Clove]

You have a point there but I think that Dallas will now keep a 2 back system so resigning either JuJu, or MB3 will be top priority.

So I see Dallas, keeping Barber when it all said and done and drafting another back if JuJu doesn't cash in.

Interesting scenario develping actually. Barber pushing his way towards a really fat contract, and the possibility of MAYBE drafting McFadden -- If this year unfolds in a manner where MB3 is completely dominant, I say we throw chump change at JJ to be Barbers backup, if he doesn't take it, we find a speedy back in the draft and let Barber do his thing.

If you throw huge money at Barber, you can probably forget about McFad, and if you don't throw money at Barber, it might come back to haunt us forever, especially if he goes somewhere like the NFC east.

 

[alancdc]

I wish more people would watch him, instead of just some youtube highlights, but you're right he doesnt get nearly the national exposure. Some smart team is going to take him in the bottom of the first, or the early second round.

That would be great for him if it was in the bottom of the first becaus ehe would go to a good team, and bad for a lot of teams. If he were to go somewhere that was a really good team he will be a monster.

 

[dbair1967]

I don't think Barber has any intention of staying here. You don't hire Drew Rosenhaus for nothing.

TO came here didnt he?

I dont see where hiring Rosenhaus equates to him leaving

he may eventually, but it wont be next yr...and he wont leave if we decide to keep him, because Jones will pay the $$$

David

 

[zeromaster]

I think you hire him because you're expecting a big payday, not necessarily that you're leaving. Why would he leave as long as we pay him well?

If *he* feels he's an every-down back and Dallas won't use him that way, that's one.

If his agent can get him a better deal when the time comes, that's two.

If Turner leaves the Chargers, it's likely going to be for the same reason: he wants to be the featured back. Again, Dallas may not be interested in committing to one back if it isn't a McFadden-style, so-called can't miss (ack!) running back. That may rule us out of the Turner sweepstakes, not that I think we need to be in them anyway.

Money goes a long way, but sometimes pride (misplaced or not) goes farther.

 

[zeromaster]

TO came here didnt he?

I dont see where hiring Rosenhaus equates to him leaving

he may eventually, but it wont be next yr...and he wont leave if we decide to keep him, because Jones will pay the $$$

David

TO also had limited options at the time. Depending on how Barber does this year, it may not be an apples to apples scenario.

 

[dbair1967]

TO also had limited options at the time. Depending on how Barber does this year, it may not be an apples to apples scenario.

still makes no difference who the agent is...just because he hired Rosenhaus doesnt mean he did it to leave

David

 

[theogt]

TO came here didnt he?

I dont see where hiring Rosenhaus equates to him leaving

he may eventually, but it wont be next yr...and he wont leave if we decide to keep him, because Jones will pay the $$$

David

TO hired Rosenhaus and he left his team. Actually, he forced himself off the team.

 

[Zaxor]

You mean like how many TDs he will score or how many 100 yard games hell have a season?

its would be one thing if he would actually miss a game but assuming a player is injury prone is silly when hes not getting injured especially with how much he is abused consdering they have Jones who is pretty good too.

what questions would that be?

Rice is not 1/2 the talent McFadden is, nor does he face anywhere near the same kind of competition

David

College football players reporting a history of three or more concussions are three times more likely to be similarly injured again than players with no concussion history, the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill-led study shows

http://www.unc.edu/news/archives/nov...kie111803.html


In one study, players with three or more concussions within seven years were three times more likely to suffer a repeat concussion than players with no concussions. And 30 percent of players with three or more concussions had symptoms lasting more than a week, compared with 7 percent of players with a first concussion

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,525039000,00.html


anybody remember Roger and Troy and how after they had a couple of concussions by passing wind would knock them out...


I can't believe that wouldn't be a big red flag

 

[theogt]

Julius has 2 concussions within 3 games. You probably never even heard about that.

 

[Weber]

I'm curious why so many people are so big on McFadden being a Cowboy. We have a great running game right now with 2 young backs. If we use a 1st round pick on a running back then we have him and Barber and will eventually lose Barber. Use that pick on something more pressing such as wide reciever or cb. That would help our team much more than loading up with another back when we have a great one on the team already. Everyone praises Barber then talk about drafting McFadden. There are no sure things people so why risk it on something we already have?

 

[Weber]

Or D end? Safety? Running back is the least of my concerns. We could also trade down and possibly pick up another first round pick the following year...

 

[Zaxor]

Julius has 2 concussions within 3 games. You probably never even heard about that.

I did but we aren't looking to draft Julius...