OL in the draft

[LatinMind]

Leary was not a draft choice, despite Jerry Jones' efforts to make it sound like we picked him in the 8th round.

They got him on draft day. draft pick or not it was a great pickup. People stayed away from him because of his injury. He played 990+ of Dallas 997 total offensive snaps in 2013 his first yr starting. Say what you want about the staff and Jerry. They can pick these UDFA like no other team.

 

[IrishAnto]

You mean late picks like Leary and Free? Who are starting for the cowboys?

Free was picked in the 4th round so not exactly low and Leary was a UDFA because of his knee.

So you can name two guys out of how many, mid – late draft picks and UDFAs over the last 10 – 15 years as proof of our ability to identify decent OL prospects outside rounds 1 & 2?

I’m not convinced.

 

[LatinMind]

Free was picked in the 4th round so not exactly low and Leary was a UDFA because of his knee.

So you can name two guys out of how many, mid – late draft picks and UDFAs over the last 10 – 15 years as proof of our ability to identify decent OL prospects outside rounds 1 & 2?

I’m not convinced.

Lol its funny how people when they see something that works right in front of them(Cowboys OL), feel the need to dwell on failures of the past to justify their point. When the point being debated isnt the past but the present OL which is a pretty good up and coming unit. This shows that Cowboy fans will argue anything just to argue it.

 

[IrishAnto]

Lol its funny how people when they see something that works right in front of them(Cowboys OL), feel the need to dwell on failures of the past to justify their point. When the point being debated isnt the past but the present OL which is a pretty good up and coming unit. This shows that Cowboy fans will argue anything just to argue it.

No the point being argued was that a mid to low round OL pick would be fine.

When you can show me more than two successes in 10 + years then I'll agree.

Let's see if the OL works two consecutive years in a row before proclaiming it working.

Too many people see something for a short time and think all's OK.

 

[LatinMind]

No the point being argued was that a mid to low round OL pick would be fine.

When you can show me more than two successes in 10 + years then I'll agree.

Let's see if the OL works two consecutive years in a row before proclaiming it working.

Too many people see something for a short time and think all's OK.

When you have teams like the bears and packers saying the Cowboys OL was the best scheme they saw all yr thats saying all you need to know.

 

[Fredd]

If someone fell into our laps on the OL in round 1 or 2, then so be it, but we are desparate on defense....not just one position

 

[IrishAnto]

When you have teams like the bears and packers saying the Cowboys OL was the best scheme they saw all yr thats saying all you need to know.

All I need to know it they can do it for more that one season.

And that's not something you or anyone else can show me at this point in time.

In addition where's the depth?

 

[burmafrd]

When you have teams like the bears and packers saying the Cowboys OL was the best scheme they saw all yr thats saying all you need to know.

You know you are wrong but still try and act like you are. The FACTS are that outside of First Round Picks the Boys have STUNK at drafting O line for more than 10 years. Just because you refuse to face reality that does not mean the rest of us have to be a lemming like you.

 

[LatinMind]

All I need to know it they can do it for more that one season.

And that's not something you or anyone else can show me at this point in time.

In addition where's the depth?

Well how about you let them do it another yr before wanting to see them replaced

 

[LatinMind]

You know you are wrong but still try and act like you are. The FACTS are that outside of First Round Picks the Boys have STUNK at drafting O line for more than 10 years. Just because you refuse to face reality that does not mean the rest of us have to be a lemming like you.

yeah yeah yeah anything that isnt about the jones destroying the cowboys is delusional.


2003-2006
Bill Parcells
All of you claim that Bill Parcells ran things, but still want to blame Jerry? Typical you. OK so from 2003-2005 Bill Parcells had Gurode moving from G to C and back and had him Alternating with Al Johnson. Parcells in all his wisdom wanted guys like Ryan Young playing tackle. But then again thats all Jerrys fault right? Then in 2005 Marc Colombo was signed as a see look. Parcells told us all Rob Pettiti was going to be the answer at RT, and you along with all the other Parcells lovers bought it up and sucked on it. He bombed. He quit in 2006. Oh yeah Parcells wanted Marco Rivera in 2005 lol. And this guy had back surgery 2 weeks after being signed lol. So very little was drafted along the OL.

In 2007

Dallas drafted Doug Free in round 4
But in 2007 Dallas had a starting line of Flo, Davis, Gurode, Kosier, Colombo

2008
The same OL no drafted OL

2009
RD2 Brewster was a total waste Free plays and does good replacing Colombo

2010
Free moves over to LT Dallas drafts sam young in RD6, he was what he was.

2011
Tyron is drafted. Arkin is drafted.

2012
Ron Leary

2013
Fredrick

So ok Before 2011 Dallas OL was pretty much set every yr by the vets. Dallas made big changed and relased guys like Davis and Gurode, Davis in 2011, Kosier in 2012. But it seems like they drafted replacements for them and look what they are today.

So where is all this bad drafting of OL coming from? Are you using Arkin as the cornerstone of your argument?

 

[IrishAnto]

Well how about you let them do it another yr before wanting to see them replaced

How about we make sure if somebody doesn't then we have a viable replacement.


It's called being proactive as opposed to reactive.


Dallas should try it more often.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

I like James Hurst and Russell Bodine

 

[Alexander]

Parcells told us all Rob Pettiti was going to be the answer at RT, and you along with all the other Parcells lovers bought it up and sucked on it.

That is some serious revisionist history working for you right there.

If anyone sucked on it, it was the majority of the posters who were fawning over the fact his "father" posted here. If anyone suggested he was an awful player, they got a severe beatdown.

 

[LatinMind]

That is some serious revisionist history working for you right there.

If anyone sucked on it, it was the majority of the posters who were fawning over the fact his "father" posted here. If anyone suggested he was an awful player, they got a severe beatdown.

I can understand some Jerry hate the guy has mad some stupid decisions but some are just off the wall claims and are done just to do it without knowing any facts.

I remember that too. lol

 

[Macnalty]

I would like to see a trade down in the 1st for an extra 3rd or 2nd. There are a lot of really good players in the 2nd/3rd in the draft, IMO.

This is so true the value in this draft for us is in the second and third rd. Hopefully the first rd with trades sets this up for a couple of extra picks, the value we got for moving back to pick Fredrick last year was very minimal/disappointing and I would expect much better value this year.
If we need a QB bar the door as our first pick 16 comes into play at QB.

 

[reddyuta]

I like what we did last year,apart from Tfred we didnt force any picks.I would like them to do the same this draft but completely avoid projects and small school guys.the value in this draft is OL and WR and i would imagine they would be BPA in the mid rds.

 

[DuDa]

I don't care what past coaching and scouting staffs have done. This current staff has done a great job of bringing in young OL the last few years. I expect they'll take one with in the first 4 rounds and I wouldn't mind if they're the BPA.

 

[RS12]

Jerry said today the would consider an O Lineman in the first which is 180 degree turn from where he was a month ago. Glad to hear it but I think somebody at VR figured out most of the first round OL talent has less warts than the first round DL talent.

 

[burmafrd]

yeah yeah yeah anything that isnt about the jones destroying the cowboys is delusional.


2003-2006
Bill Parcells
All of you claim that Bill Parcells ran things, but still want to blame Jerry? Typical you. OK so from 2003-2005 Bill Parcells had Gurode moving from G to C and back and had him Alternating with Al Johnson. Parcells in all his wisdom wanted guys like Ryan Young playing tackle. But then again thats all Jerrys fault right? Then in 2005 Marc Colombo was signed as a see look. Parcells told us all Rob Pettiti was going to be the answer at RT, and you along with all the other Parcells lovers bought it up and sucked on it. He bombed. He quit in 2006. Oh yeah Parcells wanted Marco Rivera in 2005 lol. And this guy had back surgery 2 weeks after being signed lol. So very little was drafted along the OL.

In 2007

Dallas drafted Doug Free in round 4
But in 2007 Dallas had a starting line of Flo, Davis, Gurode, Kosier, Colombo

2008
The same OL no drafted OL

2009
RD2 Brewster was a total waste Free plays and does good replacing Colombo

2010
Free moves over to LT Dallas drafts sam young in RD6, he was what he was.

2011
Tyron is drafted. Arkin is drafted.

2012
Ron Leary

2013
Fredrick

So ok Before 2011 Dallas OL was pretty much set every yr by the vets. Dallas made big changed and relased guys like Davis and Gurode, Davis in 2011, Kosier in 2012. But it seems like they drafted replacements for them and look what they are today.

So where is all this bad drafting of OL coming from? Are you using Arkin as the cornerstone of your argument?

so you refuse to admit how wrong you are? why am I not surprised.

Once again how many starting offensive linemen (who actually were decent while starting) have the boys drafted in the last ten years?

You can run but you can't hide.

And it did not matter who was doing the drafting

But you cannot admit that no matter who it was they failed unless they drafted in the 1st rd.

Yeah we got the yo yo (up and down for those that don't get it) doug Free. 4th rd choice.

In the last ten years how many picks were used other then that pick after the first and how many panned out?

You refuse to admit this FACT: if the boys do not draft a guy in the 1st rd their chances of getting a quality starter are virtually ZERO.

 

[DFWJC]

That is some serious revisionist history working for you right there.

If anyone sucked on it, it was the majority of the posters who were fawning over the fact his "father" posted here. If anyone suggested he was an awful player, they got a severe beatdown.

I didn't make that comment..and never would make it.
How did you attach that to my name?

Seriously, I'm not kidding. You can't be doing that on an open forum.

I'll accept your apology though if you offer one