OLine Plans

[jazzcat22]

I don't care what Jerry & Son say right now. If an OL is there and BPA or makes the most sense, they will draft him.

 

[conner01]

If they draft an interior OL in the first 2 rounds, I prefer one than can play both OG and OG.

I agree. A guy who can play both inside positions has extra value and there are a few in this draft

 

[gtb1943]

Most if not all places have Avila in the top 50

CBS, PFF, SI all have him top 50

 

[CATCH17]

At OT in the NFL he is known as a plus run blocker that had some issues in pass blocking.

Moving a player from OT to OG normally improves his pass blocking (Nate Newton, etc..).

He just doesn’t have the guard body type.

 

[gtb1943]

A few outliers have Avila below the top 50; bottom line though is that he is a 2nd rd guy by pretty much everyone that matters

 

[gtb1943]

He just doesn’t have the guard body type.

That is not 100%; a lot of people do not have the body type for a position yet succeed quite well.

 

[xwalker]

Most if not all places have Avila in the top 50

I don’t see why you’re so high on Avila, when to draft magazines have him raided much lower. One magazine has him at seventh best and 4th round and the other has him at eighth best and the 3rd round.

Ocyrus Torrence is the best rated in both magazines. Andrew Vorhees is the second best rated in both magazines. John Schmitz is the 3rd rated in both magazines.

My favorite is the guard from Alabama. Emil Ekiyor Jr. 6’ 3 and 324 lbs. but if Torrance, is there an hour pick who 6’5 347 you got to take him.

Really not a guy that screams out to me in the draft. For me to draft a guy an interior OL the first round, that guy needs to be elite. There isnt that guy in the draft. Im not a big fan of the day 2 guys unless Avila falls to 56, which is very unlikely.

@cowboybish

Draft "magazines" are rarely overly accurate.

Combine:
O'Cyrus Torrance: 6-5, 330
Steve Avila: 6-4, 332

I've watched multiple full games of both players. Avila might be the better player and he can play both OG and OC.

John Michael Schmitz is a great technician but at 6-3 301 pounds with shortish arms his draft value is as an OC.

 

[Cowboyny]

Stevie Cap Boy Jones said...

OG
When asked if the Cowboys need to sign a guard, Stephen was quick to point out, "we've got a guard" referring to newly-signed veteran Chuma Edoga, who has experience playing both tackle and guard. "We feel good about him," Jones added.

OT
Earlier in the day, Jerry Jones said he views Terence Steele as a swing tackle for now. When asked to Stephen, he had a vague answer, stating "I think it's the five-best guys. At the end of the day. Mike's always preached that you know. It's early. We got a new offensive line coach. He gets them out there and gets his hands on em and sees what they can do. We'll figure out what are the best five guys and what makes us the best football team for 17 games plus hopefully the playoffs."

Based on that guard signing, you would think he fits that spot starter when Tyron goes down. We are going to see another Guard added through the draft, but I'm not sure we will in the 1st rd, but never can rule it out.

 

[Cowboyny]

I don't have much confidence in Edoga right now. Maybe he can convince me in training camp and pre-season. But it does bring up the point again that they seem hesitant to move Tyler Smith inside. It would be a shame to take Terence Steele off the field.

They started Peters at LT in the playoff game against the Bucs, their plan was to have Tyron Smith play LT before the injury to Steele. He was drafted as a future tackle who had versatility to plan Guard.

 

[gtb1943]

Based on that guard signing, you would think he fits that spot starter when Tyron goes down. We are going to see another Guard added through the draft, but I'm not sure we will in the 1st rd, but never can rule it out.

No way do the boys draft a guard in the 1st rd unless they think he is the second coming of Larry Allen

 

[Cowboyny]

He is probably a better OG than Farniok. Farniok is probably playable at OG against half of the NFL, but I dont think you want in the lineup against top tier interior defensive lines. He is probably best as your #4 OG than can play all three interior spots. Edoga is probably a better start at either G spot of you have an injury

Edoga/draft pick most likely are just spot starters when Tyron misses time. Fully aspect Tyler to start there until Tyron is unable to stay healthy. It's unconventional, but they did bring Tyron back and still can make 17 million next season if he reaches his incentives.

 

[CATCH17]

That is not 100%; a lot of people do not have the body type for a position yet succeed quite well.

He plays a little high and has plodding feet too.

I just don’t see it. Looks like a pure tackle.

 

[Cowboyny]

I have the feeling that Edoga is a typical, serviceable vet that the Cowboys hope to upgrade in the draft, but could start in a pinch.

I think our 2023 Oline will look like this:

OT: Smith, Smith, Steele, Waletzko
OG: Martin, Draft pick, Edoga, Farniok
C: Biadasz, Farniok

Depending on the pick, this could be a pretty good, deep line.

I see it as Tyron, Tyler, Biaz, Martin Steele (if healthy)
This is clealy your best 5

Edoga/draft pick would start at Guard if Tyron goes down. Farnoik is our backup Center. As for swing tackle, they don't need one, why? All three can play the position, basically the gameday backup will be the #4 Tackle, if they decide to dress him.

 

[Cowboyny]

I don’t see why you’re so high on Avila, when to draft magazines have him raided much lower. One magazine has him at seventh best and 4th round and the other has him at eighth best and the 3rd round.

Ocyrus Torrence is the best rated in both magazines. Andrew Vorhees is the second best rated in both magazines. John Schmitz is the 3rd rated in both magazines.

My favorite is the guard from Alabama. Emil Ekiyor Jr. 6’ 3 and 324 lbs. but if Torrance, is there an hour pick who 6’5 347 you got to take him.

Avilia is rated as a top 40 pick by many top draft guys, same goes for Schmitz, Torrence is around the top 30. Ekiyor is more of a day 3 player.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

 

[jazzcat22]

No way do the boys draft a guard in the 1st rd unless they think he is the second coming of Larry Allen

Seeing how Larry Allen was a 2nd round pick, they could wait until then.

 

[Cowboyny]

I really like Bergeron from Syracuse. 2nd-3rd prospect who can play both G/T. Many believe he is one of those who can play year 1 and has excellent feet. Better run blocker then against the pass, but needs to get a little stronger.

 

[TwoDeep3]

What about this guy?

Dalton Risner, Broncos free agent​

 

[CouchCoach]

Stevie Cap Boy Jones said...

OG
When asked if the Cowboys need to sign a guard, Stephen was quick to point out, "we've got a guard" referring to newly-signed veteran Chuma Edoga, who has experience playing both tackle and guard. "We feel good about him," Jones added.

OT
Earlier in the day, Jerry Jones said he views Terence Steele as a swing tackle for now. When asked to Stephen, he had a vague answer, stating "I think it's the five-best guys. At the end of the day. Mike's always preached that you know. It's early. We got a new offensive line coach. He gets them out there and gets his hands on em and sees what they can do. We'll figure out what are the best five guys and what makes us the best football team for 17 games plus hopefully the playoffs."

"We feel good about him" translates to "we like our new guys".

The clown show is the reporters actually asking either of these two about the OL at this stage of the game. Hell, the HC and OLC don't even know yet. And they do know football.

 

[blueblood70]

Stephen and Jerry contradicted each other. I think Stephen is the one to pay attention to at this point.

ITs neither

MM will make these decisions with his staff once they see whose on the roster , whose healthy, and who wins the jobs in camp..nothig said 6 months before the season Pre-draft, is anymore than just answering questions that are being asked but no way Jerry or Stehpen will decide who plays, who starts , what position or amount of snaps. we can let that die right here.

that what the offseason is for , MC, TC, PS games etc etc they will get it figured out and we will know the week leading up to game 1. isn't at the same week 77 got hurt before snap was played? right fans and media taking these statements as concrete facts are all gullible.