On Cowboys Break Nick Eatman made interesting comment

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Parcells came and left without winning anything.
Phillips cane and left without winning anything.
Garrett has yet to win anything.

These are not dumb guys. You can hate them all you want, but they are intelligent guys who failed in Dallas.

Replacing head coaches every few years is a sure sign of continued failure. If Garrett is gone next year, I'm sure we are moving onto another head coach... for a few years before we find his replacement.

Both Parcells and Wade won div titles. Wade even won a playoff game. Garrett should not be mentioned with either coach just yet.
 

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Kicking the 56 yard FG was a decision he took bc he thought it gave him the best chance to win? And he made that decision bc he's going to get fired if he loses? Lolol. How else is he supposed to coach that situation? Coach to lose?
 

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I was watching the pod cast on the website and Nick Eatman said basically that Garrett may be changing players out and sitting high draft picks because he basically has bee told that if he does not make the playoffs he is gone. So instead of developing young players that might be struggling, Garrett is mainly concerned with just wins at this point since this might be his last season in Dallas.


You guys buy this? That Garrett is making these personnel changes and sitting high draft picks in order to "win now"? That might explain the decision to kick the 56 yard field goal, to get as much points as possible since winning games is the only thing he is thinking about right now. I could understand this train of thought, if I was told to make the playoffs or clean out my desk, I would not really care about grooming high draft picks that are struggling either. I am going to put the best players on the field that I have because I am not going to be around the following year to see how well those young draft picks developed if I dont make the playoffs.


I dont know if I buy this or not............................what do you guys think.

Absolutely I am buying it.

I like Garrett and all I just think he is in over his head.

He needs to step aside and at mId-season if we end up going 2-6 or 3-5 at mid-season..which could happen.

Let a coach like Callahan finish out the season as HC and begin fresh next year. Clean house of the marginal players and overpaid ones.

Bring in a whole new staff..clean up the cap so we can sign some talent and let a new HC takeover.

Best thing in IMO that could happen.

Unless you really talk fantasy and Jerrah retires as General mgr.and replaces himself..

That would really be the best that could happen.

But never in a million seasons would Jerrah do that..you think ?
 

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Parcells came and left without winning anything.
Phillips cane and left without winning anything.
Garrett has yet to win anything.

These are not dumb guys. You can hate them all you want, but they are intelligent guys who failed in Dallas.

Replacing head coaches every few years is a sure sign of continued failure. If Garrett is gone next year, I'm sure we are moving onto another head coach... for a few years before we find his replacement.


The definition of crazy by Albert Einstein is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
 

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I fully expect Garrett to be the Head Coach in 2014. Main reason: I think we're clearly the best team in the East, and even if we don't improve as much as I hope we do during the season, I still expect the Cowboys to win a division that includes a pitiful Giants team, a weak Commanders team, and a lost Eagles team.

We should win the division and therefore make the playoffs, which means Garrett stays for at least another year (which I personally think is a good thing).
 

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I was watching the pod cast on the website and Nick Eatman said basically that Garrett may be changing players out and sitting high draft picks because he basically has bee told that if he does not make the playoffs he is gone. So instead of developing young players that might be struggling, Garrett is mainly concerned with just wins at this point since this might be his last season in Dallas.


You guys buy this? That Garrett is making these personnel changes and sitting high draft picks in order to "win now"? That might explain the decision to kick the 56 yard field goal, to get as much points as possible since winning games is the only thing he is thinking about right now. I could understand this train of thought, if I was told to make the playoffs or clean out my desk, I would not really care about grooming high draft picks that are struggling either. I am going to put the best players on the field that I have because I am not going to be around the following year to see how well those young draft picks developed if I dont make the playoffs.


I dont know if I buy this or not............................what do you guys think.

With the benchings this year, Garrett playing for his job did cross my mind.
 

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I believe it. Playoffs or gone....


I was watching the pod cast on the website and Nick Eatman said basically that Garrett may be changing players out and sitting high draft picks because he basically has bee told that if he does not make the playoffs he is gone. So instead of developing young players that might be struggling, Garrett is mainly concerned with just wins at this point since this might be his last season in Dallas.


You guys buy this? That Garrett is making these personnel changes and sitting high draft picks in order to "win now"? That might explain the decision to kick the 56 yard field goal, to get as much points as possible since winning games is the only thing he is thinking about right now. I could understand this train of thought, if I was told to make the playoffs or clean out my desk, I would not really care about grooming high draft picks that are struggling either. I am going to put the best players on the field that I have because I am not going to be around the following year to see how well those young draft picks developed if I dont make the playoffs.


I dont know if I buy this or not............................what do you guys think.
 

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Parcells came and left without winning anything.
Phillips cane and left without winning anything.
Garrett has yet to win anything.

These are not dumb guys. You can hate them all you want, but they are intelligent guys who failed in Dallas.

Replacing head coaches every few years is a sure sign of continued failure. If Garrett is gone next year, I'm sure we are moving onto another head coach... for a few years before we find his replacement.

Parcells won 10 games with Quinthy Carter and Troy Hamburgular and went to the playoffs. Wade won 13 games one year and 11 another and won a playoff game. Garrett has yet to have close to the same success of either of these guys. I do agree, that it may not matter with Jerry who we have at head coach, but 500 through 44 games is a pretty good sign that this is who Jason is.
 
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I concur and I'm confused as to why Nick would even say something.

Because this hasnt always been the case with Garrett, Jones over Murray, Roy Williams over Austin, Barber over any other rb we had at the time. Something has changed and he's not concerned about grooming players he's worried about winning now.
 

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Garrett has never benched anybody that didn't perform, when it counted. Ogletree was horrendous, and so was Felix. Doug Free absolutely stunk up the joint last year and he was left in there. The players getting benched are on defense.
 

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Parcells won 10 games with Quinthy Carter and Troy Hamburgular and went to the playoffs. Wade won 13 games one year and 11 another and won a playoff game. Garrett has yet to have close to the same success of either of these guys. I do agree, that it may not matter with Jerry who we have at head coach, but 500 through 44 games is a pretty good sign that this is who Jason is.

And Wade had Jacques Reeves and Anthony Henry as his CBs and slow-poke Bradie James, who although was a force in the run, was absolutely horrendous in coverage.
 

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khiladi. Are you equating a couple of weak corner backs and a LB deficient in pass coverage with "no" QB?

I'll put it another way. Would you trade Tony Romo for the two best CB's in the league and Josh Freeman?
 

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I was watching the pod cast on the website and Nick Eatman said basically that Garrett may be changing players out and sitting high draft picks because he basically has bee told that if he does not make the playoffs he is gone. So instead of developing young players that might be struggling, Garrett is mainly concerned with just wins at this point since this might be his last season in Dallas.


You guys buy this? That Garrett is making these personnel changes and sitting high draft picks in order to "win now"? That might explain the decision to kick the 56 yard field goal, to get as much points as possible since winning games is the only thing he is thinking about right now. I could understand this train of thought, if I was told to make the playoffs or clean out my desk, I would not really care about grooming high draft picks that are struggling either. I am going to put the best players on the field that I have because I am not going to be around the following year to see how well those young draft picks developed if I dont make the playoffs.


I dont know if I buy this or not............................what do you guys think.

I don't buy it. Jones has too much invested. The playoffs look murky right now. If they should actually lose to Denver tomorrow then their predicted wins for the year drop to about 8. I think that if they sweep the division, plus beat Minnesota and Oakland at home then they can finish above .500 [9-7]. The other games are tough both away and at home. If they split the division then they will finish under .500. If the division is as bad as it looks on paper then the Cowboys should win the East and make the #4 seed, but as we all know, in division games you can toss the records out. I think Garrett gets at least another year regardless of what happens.
 

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I was watching the pod cast on the website and Nick Eatman said basically that Garrett may be changing players out and sitting high draft picks because he basically has bee told that if he does not make the playoffs he is gone. So instead of developing young players that might be struggling, Garrett is mainly concerned with just wins at this point since this might be his last season in Dallas.


You guys buy this? That Garrett is making these personnel changes and sitting high draft picks in order to "win now"? That might explain the decision to kick the 56 yard field goal, to get as much points as possible since winning games is the only thing he is thinking about right now. I could understand this train of thought, if I was told to make the playoffs or clean out my desk, I would not really care about grooming high draft picks that are struggling either. I am going to put the best players on the field that I have because I am not going to be around the following year to see how well those young draft picks developed if I dont make the playoffs.


I dont know if I buy this or not............................what do you guys think.

I think the signing of Brian Waters signaled that Garrett's building process is over and it's time to do whatever it takes to win. However, I don't know if he's been told he'll be gone if he makes the playoffs because the team has a new defensive system, an excuse that might buy him another year.

If the offense doesn't perform at a higher level than it has, though, he should be gone.
 

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Winning now is in every coaches best interest.. honestly im not even sure why this thread was started.
Exactly. Of course he's trying to win now. The only crazy thing would be if he weren't trying to win now.

Every coach is trying to win every game except in the case of a very young team with a young QB who isn't ready yet. But that doesn't describe this team at all.

While I'm at it, someone said Garrett is doing what other coaches here haven't done, which is play the best players, the ones who earn it in practice, etc. That's also crazy. Please tell me why a coach would willingly leave a superior player on the bench. It doesn't happen. If a young player doesn't play, it's because the coach believes he's lacking something, maybe the ability to play full speed with a minimum of mental errors . Which as Williams has shown this year, can mean the difference between winning and losing games.
 

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Parcells came and left without winning anything.
Phillips cane and left without winning anything.
Garrett has yet to win anything.

These are not dumb guys. You can hate them all you want, but they are intelligent guys who failed in Dallas.

Replacing head coaches every few years is a sure sign of continued failure. If Garrett is gone next year, I'm sure we are moving onto another head coach... for a few years before we find his replacement.

Parcells was easily the best
 

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What I find amazing and actually arrogant is that the professionals on the team are not capable of making good decisions. And it's not just here but in all of fandom. Ok the sports I follow. Maybe in water polo or plain ole polo or Championship Cherry Pickin' that's not true.
 

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Exactly. Of course he's trying to win now. The only crazy thing would be if he weren't trying to win now.

Every coach is trying to win every game except in the case of a very young team with a young QB who isn't ready yet. But that doesn't describe this team at all.

While I'm at it, someone said Garrett is doing what other coaches here haven't done, which is play the best players, the ones who earn it in practice, etc. That's also crazy. Please tell me why a coach would willingly leave a superior player on the bench. It doesn't happen. If a young player doesn't play, it's because the coach believes he's lacking something, maybe the ability to play full speed with a minimum of mental errors . Which as Williams has shown this year, can mean the difference between winning and losing games.

I was the one who said that... What I was trying to say is that in the past, players would continue to mess up over and over and there were no consequences as far as anyone could tell. What seems to be happening now, and hasn't been in previous seasons, is that guys who are making dumb mistakes aren't continuing to keep their positions. They are getting their butt's called out and sat on the bench. Good guys who seem to be core players like Witten, and DeMarco Murray aren't even safe.

Finally.

Letting them continue to screw up with no consequences was breeding a lack of accountability and a sense of entitlement throughout the entire organization. I don't care how good the guys are in the locker room (RKG), or how self-motivated they may be... if there continues to be no consequences for screwing up over and over, then things get lax. Players no longer have the fear of losing their jobs.

As in every walk of life, fear plays a big part in people working hard to not be replaced (thank you Prince Machiavelli). Players need to know they can lose their position if they don't perform, and that includes talented guys who aren't where they should be or who continue to get penalties for dumb mistakes. It was a core belief for Jimmy Johnson... and has been for me too ever since Jimmy was in Dallas.

Just look at Cleveland when people started getting traded and benched... the entire team picked their arses up off the ground and started playing much better. They started winning.

When I said earning it in practice, I wasn't talking about the most talented guys, I was talking about the guys who consistently were in the right place, at the right time and who did what they were supposed to do.

Guys who say in interviews that they looked back to the previous season and they were just going through the motions. They were probably the most talented, but if they were dogging it, they needed to be replaced, period.

Now they are being replaced and the guys behind the starters see that, and they see that if they do the right thing consistently and the guy in front of them isn't... then they could very well end up starting.

It breeds competition and a lack of complacency.
 

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This is a win-win scenario for us Cowboys fans. Make the playoffs...YAY. Proven clown coach gets fired...YES.
 
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