On Cowboys Break Nick Eatman made interesting comment

[tantrix1969]

A pair of what? Brain tumors? Benching starters on either side of the ball is not to be taken lightly. Garrett's done a nice job of walking the walk when it comes to earning playing time his whole time here. It's just been difficult to do at some positions because we've either lacked depth or had a series of sustained injuries. But from the minute he cut Gurode in favor of Costa, we should have known he meant business on that score.

except when he was overruled on Felix returning kicks

 

[The Quest for Six]

Parcells came and left without winning anything.
Phillips cane and left without winning anything.
Garrett has yet to win anything.

These are not dumb guys. You can hate them all you want, but they are intelligent guys who failed in Dallas.

Replacing head coaches every few years is a sure sign of continued failure. If Garrett is gone next year, I'm sure we are moving onto another head coach... for a few years before we find his replacement.

and the more things change, the more things stay the same and that's the albatross of Jerry Jones making the football decisions of this organization......

 

[visionary]

Somebody will have to take the fall and I will give you three guesses on who it wont be. Besides three years is all you get in a win now league, Garret will have had 3 and half. His wont be the only head to roll if no playoffs espescially in this weak division. What he is not doing is winning enough and that is all that matters.

8-8 or better Garrett will stay whether we make the playoffs or not
The rationale will be continuity (continued mediocrity of course)
The fall guy will be Callahan and monte retires with marinelli to dc

 

[visionary]

except when he was overruled on Felix returning kicks

Don't expect a logical answer
Just more distraction

 

[Kevinicus]

A pair of what? Brain tumors? Benching starters on either side of the ball is not to be taken lightly. Garrett's done a nice job of walking the walk when it comes to earning playing time his whole time here. It's just been difficult to do at some positions because we've either lacked depth or had a series of sustained injuries. But from the minute he cut Gurode in favor of Costa, we should have known he meant business on that score.

That move just makes Garrett look clueless.

 

[silver]

That move just makes Garrett look clueless.

Exactly, Gurode is better player today that Costa will ever be.

 

[Idgit]

except when he was overruled on Felix returning kicks

That's a good example of what I was referring to above, when there aren't necessarily better options. I know this is one of those examples where Garrett detractors think that, because Jerry was the first one to say something in the press, that that was the point at which the decision was actually made. I suspect that's not how it works in real life, though. What do you think?

 

[Idgit]

That move just makes Garrett look clueless.

Exactly, Gurode is better player today that Costa will ever be.

Lol, no. It was the right call at the time, and part of a comprehensive OL overhaul that's still in process.

 

[visionary]

Exactly, Gurode is better player today that Costa will ever be.

Few players have done less to deserve such adulation

 

[silver]

Lol, no. It was the right call at the time, and part of a comprehensive OL overhaul that's still in process.

One of the worst decisions a Dallas Cowboy have made in their history. Costa's futile play is one of the reasons we have been a .500 club the last couple of years. You're contradicting yourself when you point to Gurode being jettisoned to overhaul the OL and yet justify not benching Felix due to lack of depth. And at the same time we're overhauling the OL we extend Free to a ridículous contract and replace the other starters with the likes of Bernardau and Livings.

 

[tantrix1969]

That's a good example of what I was referring to above, when there aren't necessarily better options. I know this is one of those examples where Garrett detractors think that, because Jerry was the first one to say something in the press, that that was the point at which the decision was actually made. I suspect that's not how it works in real life, though. What do you think?

 

[Idgit]

[gif-in-place-of-actual-argument

In all honesty, you think Jerry made this decision on the spur of the moment, announcing it first to the press, without regard to how it would make his HC and ST coordinator look and the damage that could do inside a clubhouse, regarding a player he's sign off on letting walk from the team entirely ~16 weeks later? In direct contraction to what every head coach who's ever worked in Dallas under Jerry Jones says about how decisions are made there organizationally? And you choose to believe this why?

 

[Idgit]

One of the worst decisions a Dallas Cowboy have made in their history. Costa's futile play is one of the reasons we have been a .500 club the last couple of years. You're contradicting yourself when you point to Gurode being jettisoned to overhaul the OL and yet justify not benching Felix due to lack of depth. And at the same time we're overhauling the OL we extend Free to a ridículous contract and replace the other starters with the likes of Bernardau and Livings.

Just a strange take on Gurode. Re: him getting cut, though, it was obviously a combination of salary cap and performance factors.

The Free extension was based off of a single year of good play, and it was a mistake to be over a barrel in that position in the first place. Once you're there, you roll the dice. It looks like we got bit last year, and his play has moderated so far this season. We'll see how ridiculous the deal looks when it's all said and done, but two years at the current salary is a good value for the team overall if he continues this level of play.

I'm not as unhappy with the Livings/Bernadeau deals as most of you guys were, but I don't really feel like rehashing that tired argument. Livings ended up being a mistake both due to injuries and the players motivation. Mack looks to have been a decent signing to me for a player who can give you starting reps at three positions and let you go thin at OL on the gameday roster if you want him to. He's not the long-term starter there, but the thing with filling the OG positions from available options is that he doesn't necessarily have to be as long as he's capable.

 

[silver]

In all honesty, you think Jerry made this decision on the spur of the moment, announcing it first to the press, without regard to how it would make his HC and ST coordinator look and the damage that could do inside a clubhouse, regarding a player he's sign off on letting walk from the team entirely ~16 weeks later? In direct contraction to what every head coach who's ever worked in Dallas under Jerry Jones says about how decisions are made there organizationally? And you choose to believe this why?

To validate his 1st round draft choice? To give his former 1st round bust yet another opportunity to redeem himself? Because he has the brain of a 40 year old and knows moré football than Jason?

 

[dupree89]

I was watching the pod cast on the website and Nick Eatman said basically that Garrett may be changing players out and sitting high draft picks because he basically has bee told that if he does not make the playoffs he is gone. So instead of developing young players that might be struggling, Garrett is mainly concerned with just wins at this point since this might be his last season in Dallas.


You guys buy this? .

No.

 

[tantrix1969]

In all honesty, you think Jerry made this decision on the spur of the moment, announcing it first to the press, without regard to how it would make his HC and ST coordinator look and the damage that could do inside a clubhouse, regarding a player he's sign off on letting walk from the team entirely ~16 weeks later? In direct contraction to what every head coach who's ever worked in Dallas under Jerry Jones says about how decisions are made there organizationally? And you choose to believe this why?

just left the gif instead of delving into a never-ending argument because if you're drinking the koolaid enough that you believe that wasn't a Jerry decision I have nothing else to say on the matter

 

[silver]

Just a strange take on Gurode. Re: him getting cut, though, it was obviously a combination of salary cap and performance factors.

So which is it? Was Jason showing he meant business? Or was it a Jerry decision to save cap dollars?

 

[ConstantReboot]

I'd be more inclined to believe that Garrett would have benched certain players a bit back and was "discouraged" from doing so.

Supposedly Bruce Carter's effort is in question. That's not something that just happens overnight and it's likely he's been slacking for a bit if all those rumblings are correct.

I was going to post the other day that players in Dallas don't get benched because they are bad. That, in and of itself, won't get you benched. Players get benched if they have piss poor attitudes. Marion Barber was "benched" because he didn't follow dress code. Kevin Ogletree made mistake after mistake and yet was given chance after chance, likely because he wasn't disgruntled IN ADDITION to be unproductive.

I would suspect that Bruce is in the doghouse and his benching has more to do with that than it does the team thinking he can't get the job done.

For Morris, I think he's done a little too much skirting responsibility. Having Stephen tell you to step up while you are saying it's a scheme thing isn't what Garrett would want to hear.

I don't think Garrett really sweats what might happen after week 17 right now. He'd likely be sinking himself by interrupting his process with changes just for the sake of his own interests. How are you going to preach accountability and responsibility and then make self-centered decisions that go against what you have been preaching? Doesn't work.

Well if Garrett and the team was winning that I can understand your reasoning. But the Cowboys have not. They seem to be in the middle of the pack with mediocre season after mediocre season. If Jones won't can Garrett, I'll believe that there will be a storm of criticism on why he wasn't fired. People then will question Jerry's judgement and he might opt to can Garrett.

Thus I really don't think Garrett is as safe as what people tend to think. Remember, Jerry took the playcalling away from Garrett. Most here thought that wasn't going to happen either.

 

[Fritsch_the_cat]

Parcells came and left without winning anything.
Phillips cane and left without winning anything.
Garrett has yet to win anything.

These are not dumb guys. You can hate them all you want, but they are intelligent guys who failed in Dallas.

Replacing head coaches every few years is a sure sign of continued failure. If Garrett is gone next year, I'm sure we are moving onto another head coach... for a few years before we find his replacement.

I just can't for the life of me figure out why Jerry doesn't fire the GM.

 

[Idgit]

So which is it? Was Jason showing he meant business? Or was it a Jerry decision to save cap dollars?

I'd go out on a limb and say both factors played a role. Interesting that you seem to think it had to be one or the other, though. It sure would be simpler if decisions were black and white and based on a single variable though, right?