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One should almost never punt when between midfield and opposing 35-yard line

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Red Dragon, Jun 23, 2020.

  1. ElGatoGrande

    ElGatoGrande EGG

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    I'm starting to think you're overmedicated.
     
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  2. leeblair

    leeblair Well-Known Member

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    Going for it on fourth down is not a strategic decision, but a decision based upon intangibles.
    Is the opposing defense wearing down? Can you make it?
    The emotional swing that can result from either making it or not can decide a game.
    If you make it, you get four more downs. But if you're struggling already, you may find yourself right back in fourth down.
    The consequences of the decision must be understood before making the decision itself.
    In a game of equal or near equal talent, it is the intangibles that often make the difference.
    Coaches that ignore this are missing half of their job.
     
  3. BAT

    BAT Mr. Fixit

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    Coach Kelly is HS coach in Arkansas. Considered the Nick Saban/Bill Belichick of HS football.

    Has that Jimmy Johnson, brass balls, mentality.

     
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  4. BAT

    BAT Mr. Fixit

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    Coaches that practice going for it on 4th, 2 point conversions, onside kicks, etc. Are better at it than the coaches who do not emphsaize/practice these things as often.
     
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  5. leeblair

    leeblair Well-Known Member

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    Agreed.
     
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  6. Dallasfann

    Dallasfann Well-Known Member

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    I agree. Go for it...However, as sad as for me to say this...it doesn't matter. There will be no 2020 season. Heart broken....the real question is what will we all do to pass time through the winter.
     
  7. Bigdog

    Bigdog Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for letting me know.
     
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  8. Williamsboys

    Williamsboys Well-Known Member

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    Fourth and 25, I'm a Punting..
     
  9. Big_D

    Big_D Well-Known Member

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    Like when Garrett punted on 4th and 1 from the other teams 40 with 5 minutes left in OT? lol Great call..
     
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  10. Red Dragon

    Red Dragon Well-Known Member

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    Right. Like I said in the OP, it's not every situation. 4th and long, you usually should punt unless there is very urgent reason not to.
     
  11. Red Dragon

    Red Dragon Well-Known Member

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    Yes, this is a prime example of it. Although I'm hearing McCarthy may be just as bad.
     
  12. JD_KaPow

    JD_KaPow jimnabby

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    Sure, these are based on averages and every team should be basing it on more specific info. And yet every team is far far more conservative than this, all the time. And the reason is exactly what you say: coaches who do it right will get fired, because it won’t always work and the press and fans will eat them alive. Even though they’d win more games if they went for it more often.
     
  13. JD_KaPow

    JD_KaPow jimnabby

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    Good lord no. It’s the ultimate strategic (well, tactical) decision and lends itself perfectly to analysis. That “intangibles” garbage is how coaches justify being ultra-conservative at the cost of losing games.
     
  14. GenoT

    GenoT Well-Known Member

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    “One should almost never...”
    :muttley::facepalm:



     
  15. Xeven

    Xeven Well-Known Member

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    Garret played it safe for 9 years and all he got was a lousy T-shirt.
     
  16. Whirlwin

    Whirlwin Well-Known Member

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    I can’t take medication. So. I went to your site and that’s what you said . I’d like to punch myself in the face . I need medication LOL
     
  17. Whirlwin

    Whirlwin Well-Known Member

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    I don’t think anyone has going for it more than the Steelers. And it’s burned them more than to help them. So
     
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  18. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    They do it because they have been in this game long enough and know that the risk is not worth it in many occasions. I think weighing the entire situation of how the game is playing out, the distance involved and even the opposing defense your facing all plays a part. If I'm up by 3 late in the game and faced with a 4th and 2 from my own 40 I'm going to punt because I know damn well if we fail I just handed the game to the opposing. Using some avg where they take poor defensive teams along with the top defenses in a class room setting is all well and fine on game day when you are facing a top defense who are very capable of winning those short yardage battles is foolish. There is a big difference between a Miami defense and that of a 49er defense.
     
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  19. Pantone282C

    Pantone282C Zone Supporter

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    Recent years were plagued by coaching decisions - it was rags or riches. Lots of stalled drives and hair brained game management.
    Could be that we won't be in the same predicament so often now that there's a new direction in the game plan.
     
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  20. TexasHillbilly

    TexasHillbilly Well-Known Member

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    No, don't tell him. He is with the Gnats now. We don't want to give him any help. :laugh:
     

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