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4lifecowboy;1986784 said:
Unlike most I agree with you, Dmac is the one player that can be added to this offense that will completely change the way defenses have to play us. Corner is the only position that has to be addressed this year, all the talk for a receiver this year is premature, they have high expectations for Stanback, Crayton and Hurd are fairly consistant, and Glen is still here. I thought when they made the trade with Cleveland they had McFadden in mind, and I believe with all the players we already have in place this may be the only time we can afford to gamble on a player of this caliber. Get er done Jerry.

count me in with the DMac stuff...He's the best player in the draft and adds something to the offense that we dont have, and agree he would change the way defenses play us...as much as I love Barber, he doesnt do that...with DMac and MBIII we'd definitely have the best 1-2 punch in football, and niether would ever wear down...I also like the fact that McFadden doesnt turn 21 until the fall...there's no telling how good he'll be in 2-3 yrs

as I've stated in a few other threads, I wouldnt trade Barber as part of a deal to move up, but I'd have no problem at all giving up the two 1sts and a 3rd (plus maybe a throw in player like Ayodele or Carpenter) to acquire McFadden...we'd still have our own 2nd rd pick and there should be still a few quality DB's around there in that spot, guys who could play a solid role in the nickel defense and maybe develop into a starter down the road

David
 

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Interesting, out of 60 posts I think there are like 3 that agree with me here on Dmac.

The fact is if I cant get Cromartie at 22 or the db from Troy Mckelvin then I dont want whats left (Mckelvin by the way is not that great a playmaker). The 3rd best db left will provide what for us exactly? He'll be in the nickel defense how many plays per game? Cromartie goes top 10-15 by the way.

Dmac would be on the field for a good majority of the offensive plays, a threat to take it to the house on all of them, do we have that threat besides TO now?

Receiver, what receiver at 28 is coming in and starting this yr? Another part timer.

All of the other top rb's this yr look good but none of them is a throughbread.

We are the Cowboys, always have had Superstar players, not average run of the mill players.

I'll trade two part timers for 1 superstar throughbread any day of the week. Don't forget Jerry needs to sell tickets as well. A superstar RB that can take it to the house whether its 1st and 10 or 4th and 1 always wins vs two average players.

That is all...
 

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dbair1967;1986881 said:
count me in with the DMac stuff...He's the best player in the draft and adds something to the offense that we dont have, and agree he would change the way defenses play us...as much as I love Barber, he doesnt do that...with DMac and MBIII we'd definitely have the best 1-2 punch in football, and niether would ever wear down...I also like the fact that McFadden doesnt turn 21 until the fall...there's no telling how good he'll be in 2-3 yrs

as I've stated in a few other threads, I wouldnt trade Barber as part of a deal to move up, but I'd have no problem at all giving up the two 1sts and a 3rd (plus maybe a throw in player like Ayodele or Carpenter) to acquire McFadden...we'd still have our own 2nd rd pick and there should be still a few quality DB's around there in that spot, guys who could play a solid role in the nickel defense and maybe develop into a starter down the road

David


David,

I agree with you 100%. After watching him tear through the SEC the past 3 years like a true, thoroughbred racehorse I saw talent in the mold of Bo Jackson. His long-legged running style and speed when cutting back against the grain actually reminds me of OJ Simpson.

He just has that rare, explosive dimension.

I would be estatic if we got him. I firmly believe impact, skill position talent is the key to building winning, SB Championship teams. History has proven it over and over.
 

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CaptainAmerica;1986968 said:
David,

I agree with you 100%. After watching him tear through the SEC the past 3 years like a true, thoroughbred racehorse I saw talent in the mold of Bo Jackson. His long-legged running style and speed when cutting back against the grain actually reminds me of OJ Simpson.

He just has that rare, explosive dimension.

I would be estatic if we got him. I firmly believe impact, skill position talent is the key to building winning, SB Championship teams. History has proven it over and over.

Guys, I would love to have DMAC and I thought he was in the bag when we traded with Clevland. However, things have changed.

1. After seeing what Turner got from Atlanta, Barber is going to want at least the same, probably more. We cant pay Barber his money AND McFadden his money. We would have to let some of our upcoming free agents walk because we could not afford them. You want to lose Newman or Ware so you can have both Barber and McFadden? I dont.

2. We have Newman, Henery, and a bunch of scrubs. This is our #1 weakness and the reason why we were watching the SB, our inability to cover. CBs are too expensive in free agency, that is why we need to spend a 1st rounder on a CB this year. Even Stewart in an interview said CB was the biggest need on defense. We trade our picks for McFadden, who is the #3 CB? Alan Ball or Nate Jones? I think I am going to be sick.

3. We dont need 2-franchise backs when we are a pass-first offense. In fact, you really dont need a franchise back at all to win a SB, just look at the RBs on some of the playoff teams last year and you will get my point.

The smart play here is to take CB and WR in the 1st round and RB in the 2nd. That basically fills all our holes and doesnt overextend our cap. :D
 

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Beast_from_East;1987032 said:
Guys, I would love to have DMAC and I thought he was in the bag when we traded with Clevland. However, things have changed.

1. After seeing what Turner got from Atlanta, Barber is going to want at least the same, probably more. We cant pay Barber his money AND McFadden his money. We would have to let some of our upcoming free agents walk because we could not afford them. You want to lose Newman or Ware so you can have both Barber and McFadden? I dont.

2. We have Newman, Henery, and a bunch of scrubs. This is our #1 weakness and the reason why we were watching the SB, our inability to cover. CBs are too expensive in free agency, that is why we need to spend a 1st rounder on a CB this year. Even Stewart in an interview said CB was the biggest need on defense. We trade our picks for McFadden, who is the #3 CB? Alan Ball or Nate Jones? I think I am going to be sick.

3. We dont need 2-franchise backs when we are a pass-first offense. In fact, you really dont need a franchise back at all to win a SB, just look at the RBs on some of the playoff teams last year and you will get my point.

The smart play here is to take CB and WR in the 1st round and RB in the 2nd. That basically fills all our holes and doesnt overextend our cap. :D

#1 so barber will want like 40 million and only a fool would give him 40 million.

#2 we can get good cbs in the 2nd or later rounds.

#3 if we draft mcfadden either barber goes in the trade for dmac or barber plays 1 year on his tender contract.
 

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WoodysGirl;1986039 said:
People want McFadden...and they want him any way they can get him.

can you blame them? I mean, really?

not in any way advocating the trade-up
 

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Joe Rod;1986216 said:
Maybe Zach Thomas is a WOW (World of Warcraft) player and you all just misunderstood what Jerry meant.
lol that was funny lol
 

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Beast_from_East;1987032 said:
Guys, I would love to have DMAC and I thought he was in the bag when we traded with Clevland. However, things have changed.

1. After seeing what Turner got from Atlanta, Barber is going to want at least the same, probably more. We cant pay Barber his money AND McFadden his money. We would have to let some of our upcoming free agents walk because we could not afford them. You want to lose Newman or Ware so you can have both Barber and McFadden? I dont.

Nobody knows this is the case at all...there's no way Ware or Newman leave Dallas regardless of what we do

2. We have Newman, Henery, and a bunch of scrubs. This is our #1 weakness and the reason why we were watching the SB, our inability to cover. CBs are too expensive in free agency, that is why we need to spend a 1st rounder on a CB this year. Even Stewart in an interview said CB was the biggest need on defense. We trade our picks for McFadden, who is the #3 CB? Alan Ball or Nate Jones? I think I am going to be sick.

I just dont agree I guess...the defense played well enough to win both the playoff games we lost...we lost the games because we didnt do hardly anything offensively...the defense gave up 230 yds to the Giants and sacked Manning 3 times, they held one of the leagues best rushing offenses to under 100 yds rushing...it forced back to back 3 and outs with the game on the line, and the offense didnt do jack...as for #3 CB, you dont have to use a 1st rd pick to find one, something too many people seem to think...we could easily find a solid CB prospect in round 2

3. We dont need 2-franchise backs when we are a pass-first offense. In fact, you really dont need a franchise back at all to win a SB, just look at the RBs on some of the playoff teams last year and you will get my point.

Sure you dont have to have it...you dont even have to have a franchise QB to win a super bowl...but having great players doesnt inhibit your ability to win a championship, it enhances it

The smart play here is to take CB and WR in the 1st round and RB in the 2nd. That basically fills all our holes and doesnt overextend our cap. :D

I just dont get it where people say our cap is ruined by a potential trade up for McFadden...you dont get 1st rd picks for minimum wage regardless of what part of the 1st they are drafted in, they still have to be paid...nobody believes Jones is trading into the top 3 spots to get McFadden (something he even said) and the price drops quite a bit once your outside that area, especially if they get him at 5 or later.

David
 

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rags747;1986886 said:
Interesting, out of 60 posts I think there are like 3 that agree with me here on Dmac.

The fact is if I cant get Cromartie at 22 or the db from Troy Mckelvin then I dont want whats left (Mckelvin by the way is not that great a playmaker). The 3rd best db left will provide what for us exactly? He'll be in the nickel defense how many plays per game? Cromartie goes top 10-15 by the way.

Dmac would be on the field for a good majority of the offensive plays, a threat to take it to the house on all of them, do we have that threat besides TO now?

Receiver, what receiver at 28 is coming in and starting this yr? Another part timer.

All of the other top rb's this yr look good but none of them is a throughbread.

We are the Cowboys, always have had Superstar players, not average run of the mill players.

I'll trade two part timers for 1 superstar throughbread any day of the week. Don't forget Jerry needs to sell tickets as well. A superstar RB that can take it to the house whether its 1st and 10 or 4th and 1 always wins vs two average players.

That is all...
There are very few people on this forum who do not like McFadden. The vast majority of us who are against acquiring him are opposed because of the ridiculous price it would cost to do so.
 

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Hostile;1987411 said:
There are very few people on this forum who do not like McFadden. The vast majority of us who are against acquiring him are opposed because of the ridiculous price it would cost to do so.

correctomundo
 

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Hostile;1987411 said:
There are very few people on this forum who do not like McFadden. The vast majority of us who are against acquiring him are opposed because of the ridiculous price it would cost to do so.
Very true.
 

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rags747;1986886 said:
Interesting, out of 60 posts I think there are like 3 that agree with me here on Dmac.

The fact is if I cant get Cromartie at 22 or the db from Troy Mckelvin then I dont want whats left (Mckelvin by the way is not that great a playmaker). The 3rd best db left will provide what for us exactly? He'll be in the nickel defense how many plays per game? Cromartie goes top 10-15 by the way.

Dmac would be on the field for a good majority of the offensive plays, a threat to take it to the house on all of them, do we have that threat besides TO now?

Receiver, what receiver at 28 is coming in and starting this yr? Another part timer.

All of the other top rb's this yr look good but none of them is a throughbread.

We are the Cowboys, always have had Superstar players, not average run of the mill players.

I'll trade two part timers for 1 superstar throughbread any day of the week. Don't forget Jerry needs to sell tickets as well. A superstar RB that can take it to the house whether its 1st and 10 or 4th and 1 always wins vs two average players.

That is all...

We'll be in a nickle defense more than 15 plays a game, so, yes a nickle corner is going to be on the field quite a bit more than DMac will, most likely. Even if you got DMac he's going to do exactly what they did with Barber and Jones the last two years. He'll get 12-16 carries, tops. We'll be in a nickel defense practically every 3rd down play that is more than 3 yards and with the way the league likes to use a lot more 3 reciever (and you can expect that to increase cause of New england last year) you're going to be seeing 3 CBs on the field more than usual.


Yes, corner is a FAR greater need, and concern, than having DMac split carries with barber.
 

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BraveHeartFan;1987537 said:
We'll be in a nickle defense more than 15 plays a game, so, yes a nickle corner is going to be on the field quite a bit more than DMac will, most likely. Even if you got DMac he's going to do exactly what they did with Barber and Jones the last two years. He'll get 12-16 carries, tops. We'll be in a nickel defense practically every 3rd down play that is more than 3 yards and with the way the league likes to use a lot more 3 reciever (and you can expect that to increase cause of New england last year) you're going to be seeing 3 CBs on the field more than usual.


Yes, corner is a FAR greater need, and concern, than having DMac split carries with barber.

Plus we can't count on Henry to be healthy the whole season.
 
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