News: Op-Ed: Firing Head Coach Jason Garrett would set Cowboys back a decade

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It's kind of a dumb argument. If he just said Jason Garrett is a good coach and a unique fit for this organization, I'm 100% on board with that.

The Scandrick quotes, though, are more nice support from the players for the HC. I'll keep saying and saying it: there are lots of reasons why teams aren't as successful as they'd like to be in the NFL. Our problems have been mostly related to needing to bring in consistency and structure on the staff (not just the coaches, but from the scouts and coaches on down), discipline re: the cap, and the fact that we had an aging and declining roster in a lot of areas back in 2010. Garrett's made his share of mistakes, but he handles the crazy and the distraction better than most. His players definitely respect him. His bosses love him. His staff's got his back. We've seen enough HCs under Jerry at this point to know that these things aren't always easy to achieve amidst the chaos the owner invites.

If we can just continue to develop the young players we're drafting, we're on the right track.
 

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Now you know that's a lie. What's his record with a healthy Romo

8-8, 8-8, 8-8 and losing every last game of the regular season that could have put the team in the playoffs. Romo was healthy for all of those games.o_O
 

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8-8, 8-8, 8-8 and losing every last game of the regular season that could have put the team in the playoffs. Romo was healthy for all of those games.o_O

What on earth does that have to do with my question? Did you reply to the wrong post?
 

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8-8, 8-8, 8-8 and losing every last game of the regular season that could have put the team in the playoffs. Romo was healthy for all of those games.o_O

What if 8-8 was actually a good record for the teams we were fielding at that time? For every 'Romo was healthy' argument, there's an offsetting 'one of the worst defenses in the league' argument. Sometimes getting a bad team to .500 is not evidence of a coaching problem. No matter how much second guessing of play calling fans want to do.
 

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What on earth does that have to do with my question? Did you reply to the wrong post?

It was reported at .590 w/a healthy Romo. JG's record is .500. We also lost every last game of the regular season under JG, with a health Romo, that would have put this team on the playoffs.
 

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It's kind of a dumb argument. If he just said Jason Garrett is a good coach and a unique fit for this organization, I'm 100% on board with that.

The Scandrick quotes, though, are more nice support from the players for the HC. I'll keep saying and saying it: there are lots of reasons why teams aren't as successful as they'd like to be in the NFL. Our problems have been mostly related to needing to bring in consistency and structure on the staff (not just the coaches, but from the scouts and coaches on down), discipline re: the cap, and the fact that we had an aging and declining roster in a lot of areas back in 2010. Garrett's made his share of mistakes, but he handles the crazy and the distraction better than most. His players definitely respect him. His bosses love him. His staff's got his back. We've seen enough HCs under Jerry at this point to know that these things aren't always easy to achieve amidst the chaos the owner invites.

If we can just continue to develop the young players we're drafting, we're on the right track.

What gives with the spewing of sound logic and injection of objectivity?...it'll set this site back for a decade.
 

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What if 8-8 was actually a good record for the teams we were fielding at that time? For every 'Romo was healthy' argument, there's an offsetting 'one of the worst defenses in the league' argument. Sometimes getting a bad team to .500 is not evidence of a coaching problem. No matter how much second guessing of play calling fans want to do.

Franchise QB = 8-8 and no playoffs? What other HC's get that kind of rope?
 

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It's kind of a dumb argument. If he just said Jason Garrett is a good coach and a unique fit for this organization, I'm 100% on board with that.

The Scandrick quotes, though, are more nice support from the players for the HC. I'll keep saying and saying it: there are lots of reasons why teams aren't as successful as they'd like to be in the NFL. Our problems have been mostly related to needing to bring in consistency and structure on the staff (not just the coaches, but from the scouts and coaches on down), discipline re: the cap, and the fact that we had an aging and declining roster in a lot of areas back in 2010. Garrett's made his share of mistakes, but he handles the crazy and the distraction better than most. His players definitely respect him. His bosses love him. His staff's got his back. We've seen enough HCs under Jerry at this point to know that these things aren't always easy to achieve amidst the chaos the owner invites.

If we can just continue to develop the young players we're drafting, we're on the right track.

Hopefully we live long enough to witness it.
 

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Hopefully we live long enough to witness it.

Depends on which posters you're referring to. :)

Hey, the organization has some significant structural problems. We all know that. The question is, what's the best way to work around them since they're not going anywhere.
 

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It was reported at .590 w/a healthy Romo. JG's record is .500. We also lost every last game of the regular season under JG, with a health Romo, that would have put this team on the playoffs.

OK and I know all of that. But that has nothing to do with my post whatsoever.
I was responding to some one who Said Garrett had a .500 record with an elite qb at the helm, which he is not.
 

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OK and I know all of that. But that has nothing to do with my post whatsoever.
I was responding to some one who Said Garrett had a .500 record with an elite qb at the helm, which he is not.

Okay, barely over .590 like in the second response?
 

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8-8, 8-8, 8-8 and losing every last game of the regular season that could have put the team in the playoffs. Romo was healthy for all of those games.o_O

And no he wasn't. Romo missed the 2013 last game to get into the playoffs.
 

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Okay, barely over .590 like in the second response?

I'm seeing 40-28 with Romo as the starter in the Regular season. that's Well over .500 as the OP stated. So where did you come in and get mixed up at again?
 

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And no he wasn't. Romo missed the 2013 last game to get into the playoffs.

Oh yeah, Orton...you're right there. Wasn't that the DET/GB debacle year perpetuated by JG as well; shouldn't have come to winning the last game of the season?
 
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