Orlando Scandrick

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Bdubs sounds like he has the making of a perfect nickel CB. I wouldn't be surprised if there is talk of him pushing for playing time over Scandrick by the end of training camp.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Aw, as I expected. Absolutely nothing of value to add and no evidence to illustrate your point. Good show.

The evdience to illustrate my point is given every Sunday of the regular season.

Funny though that you speak of evidence when you still have failed to provide any stats/facts/etc that OS is one of the top slot corners in the league.

 

[SHAMSzy]

http://cowboysblog.***BANNED-URL***...ading-the-entire-cowboys-roster-in-2012.html/

Now, you post something to back up your "point."

LOL, so Scandrick gets an A, Barry Church an A-, Costa an A-, and Romo a C+.

Awesome evidence, bro.

 

[Bay10]

No disrespect to OScan but Jerry gave him way to much money. I hope B.W Webb can replace Oscan.

 

[Idgit]

The evdience to illustrate my point is given every Sunday of the regular season.

Funny though that you speak of evidence when you still have failed to provide any stats/facts/etc that OS is one of the top slot corners in the league.

Did you miss this part of the link provided already?

Overall, Scandrick allowed just a 51.3 percent completion rate—remarkable for a nickel cornerback—and only 5.7 YPA on 39 targets. He also didn’t allow a touchdown all year. It’s not the consensus, but Scandrick was one of the best players on the team in 2012.

Clearly, those are stats/facts/etc, aren't they? I mean, dispute them if you care to, but they're the statistical measure you asked for. You shouldn't just try to sweep it under the rug because you happen to disagree.

 

[Idgit]

No disrespect to OScan but Jerry gave him way to much money. I hope B.W Webb can replace Oscan.

How much less would you consider to be going rate for a slot CB/part-time starter in the NFL?

 

[Bay10]

How much less would you consider to be going rate for a slot CB/part-time starter in the NFL?

I'm not sure but Mike Jenkins is way better than O Scan and he should be our nickel back.

 

[Idgit]

I'm not sure but Mike Jenkins is way better than O Scan and he should be our nickel back.

He might be a better CB overall, if you're comfortable with the shoulder repair. And with his tackling.

He's got a lot of catching up to do if he's ever going to compete with Scandrick as a slot CB.

 

[Bay10]

He might be a better CB overall, if you're comfortable with the shoulder repair. And with his tackling.

He's got a lot of catching up to do if he's ever going to compete with Scandrick as a slot CB.

Can you see CB Webb taking over for O Scan this year?

 

[CF74]

One thing about Oscan is that even though they always make a completion on him he's right there to make a quick tackle, hence 5.7 yd average after the catch is made...

We have almost Anthony and you ain't getting away from me Scandrick...

How bout stats for deflected passes or picks?

 

[Titleist]

One thing about Oscan is that even though they always make a completion on him he's right there to make a quick tackle, hence 5.7 yd average after the catch is made...

We have almost Anthony and you ain't getting away from me Scandrick...

How bout stats for deflected passes or picks?

A 51.3% completion rate is not even close to "always making a completion on him." In fact, it's pretty darn good when you compare it to top cornerbacks in the league: Tim Jennings (CHI): 52.9% completion rate, Richard Sherman (SEA): 47.1% completion rate.

http://www.footballnation.com/content/the-top-10-cornerbacks-the-2012-nfl-season/21353/

 

[Idgit]

Can you see CB Webb taking over for O Scan this year?

Nope. Maybe next year, when Oscan's salary jumps up a bit. But that's only if Webb plays really well and adapts to the league really quickly. I hope he does.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Did you miss this part of the link provided already?

Clearly, those are stats/facts/etc, aren't they? I mean, dispute them if you care to, but they're the statistical measure you asked for. You shouldn't just try to sweep it under the rug because you happen to disagree.

They are stats/facts.. not relating at all to the statement made by the poster.

The Los Angeles Lakers are in the NBA playoffs right now.

That's a fact too.. and just like the other facts, it in no way proves that Orlando Scandrick is one of the top slot cornerbacks in all of pro football.

Just because one man's opinion is that his completion percentage allowed is "remarkable" and he slaps a random "A+++" grade on the guy means jack squat when he doesn't compare his stats/facts to those of other slot corners around the league.

Also, its only data from one season. To be considered one of the top slot corners in football, i'd imagine there would be some kind of consistent performance being looked for.. not just a half decent season of 11 games played.

So yea, nothing really to sweep under the rug here, even if i wanted to, ha.

 

[Idgit]

They are stats/facts.. not relating at all to the statement made by the poster.

The Los Angeles Lakers are in the NBA playoffs right now.

That's a fact too.. and just like the other facts, it in no way proves that Orlando Scandrick is one of the top slot cornerbacks in all of pro football.

Just because one man's opinion is that his completion percentage allowed is "remarkable" and he slaps a random "A+++" grade on the guy means jack squat when he doesn't compare his stats/facts to those of other slot corners around the league.

Also, its only data from one season. To be considered one of the top slot corners in football, i'd imagine there would be some kind of consistent performance being looked for.. not just a half decent season of 11 games played.

So yea, nothing really to sweep under the rug here, even if i wanted to, ha.

It's like you don't understand what the words 'fact' or 'statistic' mean. The man gave you his completion rate, YPA, and touchdowns given up in answer to your question. I have no idea why you think coming back with 'The LA Lakers are in the NBA playoffs right now' somehow helps you make your point, but it doesn't.

If you don't agree with his conclusion, refute the man. Do the legwork and explain why you're unimpressed with that completion percentage for a slot CB. Or how you think he should have given up less than zero touchdowns. Or go after the quality of his stats themselves, if you don't have anything else. Anything beyond trying to pull a head fake on the rest of us when we're standing here watching you thinking 'that might be the worst head-fake I've ever seen.'

 

[Lonestar94]

Scandrick is the forgotten man on this defense. Sometimes even I forget he is still on the team. Don't know if that's good or bad.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

It's like you don't understand what the words 'fact' or 'statistic' mean. The man gave you his completion rate, YPA, and touchdowns given up in answer to your question. I have no idea why you think coming back with 'The LA Lakers are in the NBA playoffs right now' somehow helps you make your point, but it doesn't.

If you don't agree with his conclusion, refute the man. Do the legwork and explain why you're unimpressed with that completion percentage for a slot CB. Or how you think he should have given up less than zero touchdowns. Or go after the quality of his stats themselves, if you don't have anything else. Anything beyond trying to pull a head fake on the rest of us when we're standing here watching you thinking 'that might be the worst head-fake I've ever seen.'

I can't say im suprised that you don't understand, but im doing as much work as the gentleman who wrote that article chose to do. Instead of proving that this stat is very good compared to other good slot corners around the league.. im just going to list the statistics and counter his "remarkable" with "unimpressive".

See? Now we both have opinions that aren't worth a damn because neither of us chose to actually try and prove our point with facts that matter based on the statement we are making.

The point is, i'd be ok with him saying Scandrick had a solid season last year for us (albeit he only played in 11 games, but we'll ignore that).

Again though, its another thing to proclaim him all of a sudden one of the top slot corners in the league because of a half a season of finally giving us solid production.

Its just like the people who say Costa is a solid starter for us now because he played 1.5 pretty solid games for us last year.. and we'll just choose to ignore all the other horrible play he's given us.

Scandrick has been bad for most of his career here, and i imagine if Webb shows us even flashes of being able to handle the slot full time this year, Scandrick's butt will be out the door at the end of the season.

 

[Idgit]

I can't say im suprised that you don't understand, but im doing as much work as the gentleman who wrote that article chose to do. Instead of proving that this stat is very good compared to other good slot corners around the league.. im just going to list the statistics and counter his "remarkable" with "unimpressive".

See? Now we both have opinions that aren't worth a damn because neither of us chose to actually try and prove our point with facts that matter based on the statement we are making.

The point is, i'd be ok with him saying Scandrick had a solid season last year for us (albeit he only played in 11 games, but we'll ignore that).

Again though, its another thing to proclaim him all of a sudden one of the top slot corners in the league because of a half a season of finally giving us solid production.

Its just like the people who say Costa is a solid starter for us now because he played 1.5 pretty solid games for us last year.. and we'll just choose to ignore all the other horrible play he's given us.

Scandrick has been bad for most of his career here, and i imagine if Webb shows us even flashes of being able to handle the slot full time this year, Scandrick's butt will be out the door at the end of the season.

I'm just going to go ahead and disregard your posts on this topic until and unless you get around to actually supporting a position, one way or another.

 

[Texas_Pete]

I don't know how much money it would save the Cowboys, but i know for sure it would save me alot of money on Advil costs over the course of the season.

:laugh2:

 

[TheSport78]

Oscar the Grouch is safe this year but he's pretty much a goner in 2014.

 

[Vinnie2u]

I guess that when Free and Costa are gone Orlando takes the zone whipping boy slot.