Orlando Scandrick

[btcutter]

I really don't understand the hate for Scandrick here. When healthy he's one of the top slot cornerbacks in the league. I guess people like to latch onto the one bad game he had last year (Atlanta) and crucify him for that.

I agree. I think he's gonna have a very good year this year in the cover two system. He's a better CB playing facing the QB then with his back against the QB.

Webb has a lot to learn still coming from a smaller school.

 

[ThrowuptheXDez88]

Orlando Scandrick has been a pretty solid player for a large portion of his career, the problem is people will remember certain plays such as the personal foul on Weeden last year & missing on the Atlanta FB + holding Roddie White, & in the last game of 2011-12 season not being able to make a play on the deep ball in New York. Scandrick is usually stride for stride with the WR, another problem is that he has no ball skills or instincts of when to jump, which is what holds him back from being great.. He is a different cat & I don't care for his attitude, but I think he is a legit player & like that he is on the team.

 

[AllProRico]

Orlando Scandrick has been a pretty solid player for a large portion of his career, the problem is people will remember certain plays such as the personal foul on Weeden last year & missing on the Atlanta FB + holding Roddie White, & in the last game of 2011-12 season not being able to make a play on the deep ball in New York. Scandrick is usually stride for stride with the WR, another problem is that he has no ball skills or instincts of when to jump, which is what holds him back from being great.. He is a different cat & I don't care for his attitude, but I think he is a legit player & like that he is on the team.

I think that just about sums it up in a nutshell

 

[CF74]

A 51.3% completion rate is not even close to "always making a completion on him." In fact, it's pretty darn good when you compare it to top cornerbacks in the league: Tim Jennings (CHI): 52.9% completion rate, Richard Sherman (SEA): 47.1% completion rate.

http://www.footballnation.com/content/the-top-10-cornerbacks-the-2012-nfl-season/21353/

Dude I don't need stats I actually watch the games. How much of that number is skewed by drops and over/under thrown balls? Whenever a team needs a 1st down and the game is on the wire it's typically a completed pass on Oscan....

 

[Future]

I'd absolutely LOVE to hear some kind of credible argument to back that up, some kind of facts or statistics that you've seen that allow you to make a statement like that seriously.

I thought it was well known that, even though he gets bashed around here all the time, football people around the league regard him as one of the best nickel corners in the game.

 

[btcutter]

he has no ball skills or instincts of when to jump, which is what holds him back from being great.. .

That's exactly the reason why I think cover 2 facing the QB will benefit him the most of all three CBs we have. He is usually right with the WR that he suppose to cover.

 

[ethiostar]

Dude I don't need stats I actually watch the games. How much of that number is skewed by drops and over/under thrown balls? Whenever a team needs a 1st down and the game is on the wire it's typically a completed pass on Oscan....

:laugh2:

That comment always cracks me up.

Stats for all CBs are skewed by drops and over/under thrown balls. Its not like they eliminate those from analysis for other CBs and include them only for Scan to make him look better than he actually is. Of course, there may be a conspiracy out there that I'm not aware of.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

I'm just going to go ahead and disregard your posts on this topic..

We all appriciate it, thanks.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

I thought it was well known that, even though he gets bashed around here all the time, football people around the league regard him as one of the best nickel corners in the game.

Who? From where?

 

[RoyTheHammer]

scandrick is much better than he is given credit for. 51% comp for a slot guy is very good.
he will not be cut as some suggest. we don'y have the depth. i suspect he will be here beyond next year too. the year after when his base goes to 5 mil he will be cut and hopefully we have a guy ready to take over

What are some completion percentages and ypa against other slot guys in 2012?

What was OScan's completion percentage against and ypa against him in previous seasons?

 

[Idgit]

We all appriciate it, thanks.

Who's 'we'? You have a mouse in your pocket?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

One thing about Oscan is that even though they always make a completion on him he's right there to make a quick tackle, hence 5.7 yd average after the catch is made...

We have almost Anthony and you ain't getting away from me Scandrick...

How bout stats for deflected passes or picks?

52% completion percentage is 52%.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Dude I don't need stats I actually watch the games. How much of that number is skewed by drops and over/under thrown balls? Whenever a team needs a 1st down and the game is on the wire it's typically a completed pass on Oscan....

IOW, you have made up your mind and anything short of a 2 hour youtube breaking down every pass attempt against him you will disregard any other information.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Who's 'we'? You have a mouse in your pocket?

Those of us who'd like to actually discuss the topic rather than hear two posters go back and forth with some incessant babbling about who doesn't understand what or who, and yada, yada, yada..

With that being said, do you, or anyone else, have an answer for the two questions i posed above?

If so, it may actually help solve the debate of how good a slot corner Scandrick really is.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Those of us who'd like to actually discuss the topic rather than hear two posters go back and forth with some incessant babbling about who doesn't understand what or who, and yada, yada, yada..

With that being said, do you, or anyone else, have an answer for the two questions i posed above?

If so, it may actually help solve the debate of how good a slot corner Scandrick really is.

Citing completion percentages is babbling now. That's a pretty loud mouse you have going on there, mang.

The invoking of imaginary people that also support your position only works on children. If people back you up let them do it.

 

[JohnsKey19]

My understanding is he has a high cap # for 2014. Ideally, you'd like to get a younger and cheaper player in that #3 CB spot for the 2014 season.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Citing completion percentages is babbling now. That's a pretty loud mouse you have going on there, mang.

The invoking of imaginary people that also support your position only works on children. If people back you up let them do it.

Citing completion percentages is certainly not babbling.

In fact, that was my question to begin with. I'd honestly love to hear what some of the other slot corners completion percentages against were last year if anyone would post that information, that would be great. It would actually be the first relevant fact proposed toward ending this discussion.

 

[CF74]

:laugh2:

That comment always cracks me up.

Stats for all CBs are skewed by drops and over/under thrown balls. Its not like they eliminate those from analysis for other CBs and include them only for Scan to make him look better than he actually is. Of course, there may be a conspiracy out there that I'm not aware of.

You totally read more into that then what it was. No conspiracy, stats simply don't tell the full story whereas the tape doesn't lie...

 

[Risen Star]

I really don't understand the hate for Scandrick here. When healthy he's one of the top slot cornerbacks in the league. I guess people like to latch onto the one bad game he had last year (Atlanta) and crucify him for that.

Agreed.

He's taken a lot of heat for defensive issues that really have nothing to do with him. Put him on San Francisco's defense and he looks like a different player.

 

[CF74]

IOW, you have made up your mind and anything short of a 2 hour youtube breaking down every pass attempt against him you will disregard any other information.

Like I said, I watch the games. And it's clear some can't read between the lines, I may have implied every single pass thrown on him is completed but obviously that is just an exaggeration, I simply meant dude gives up a lot of plays, especially when we need a stop....

I see none of the Oscan apologists addressed the second part of my post in his defense..

"How bout stats for deflected passes or picks?"