Orlovsky breaks down Dak's 15 interceptions from last season

[Motorola]

Now that we've had a former NFL head coach two months ago reviewed Prescott's interceptions this past season, and a former NFL quarterback do the same this past week...this topic can be put to bed.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

....another example of the meaningless Dak stats is the LVR game 2021. The two minute offense produced a very respectable rating for Dak 6 for 9, but the drive ended in a Zuerlein FG = eventually lost. The 66% >2min completion means nothing when we lose.

How is it meaningless to if the drive ends in a field goal? Were they not trailing and kicked a field goal to go into OT? Tell the whole narrative. He went into that Oakland game and if i'm not mistaken Cee Dee Lamb and Amari Cooper both missed that game. Trevon Diggs also missed that game. The DEFENSE is the one that sucked that game not the offense despite the running game being abysmal.

That's the reason why stats, without analysis is next to useless........

The 2022, 3 for 4, came in which game.....the Texans, hardly an achievement or statement performance, though give him his due he beat up on the weak.

Then the 2021 stats (22 for 32), something like 16 for 24 came in 'blow out' lost games (Chiefs and Bronco's) where we trailed by more than a TD and PRESSURE WAS OFF. The other interesting aspect of the performances >2min is the reliance on long Gregg the Leg FG .....and that Cooper Rush was the only QB to manage a TB on a >2min drive when trailing.

The relevance of the 55 Rating is the outcome relevance is the outcome, not the stat. Stats mean nothing if they dont accumulate and achieve anything.

SO the stats only mean something when you are gloating about his 55 QB Rating....which was obtained mostly from earlier his career during the Garrett years....

And you're now saying in 2021 his stats came in "blow outs". I asked you earlier if trailing under 2 minutes and down 14 was clutch and you said I was nitpicking. Now you're using that same exact thing to go against his production that doesn't fit your narrative.

 

[G2]

New topic by the illustrious journalists.

 

[CowboyoWales]

How is it meaningless to if the drive ends in a field goal? Were they not trailing and kicked a field goal to go into OT?

Because as I said from the very start, it's all a reflection on Dak's ability to perform under pressure.....even a tied game isnt comparative, as there is always OT to rely upon.

The DEFENSE is the one that sucked that game not the offense despite the running game being abysmal.

Stop deflecting, Dak had the ball and failed....but that's what he's paid to do. Defense can be dreadful, but that doesnt negate that Dak failed.

And you're now saying in 2021 his stats came in "blow outs".

The narrative is that Dak can perform when the game's NOT ON THE LINE, that's the crux of the argument and why the 55 Rating (as compared to other stats) is so telling. The guy's great until IT's ALL ON HIM.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Because as I said from the very start, it's all a reflection on Dak's ability to perform under pressure.....even a tied game isnt comparative, as there is always OT to rely upon.

Stop deflecting, Dak had the ball and failed....but that's what he's paid to do. Defense can be dreadful, but that doesnt negate that Dak failed.


The narrative is that Dak can perform when the game's NOT ON THE LINE, that's the crux of the argument and why the 55 Rating (as compared to other stats) is so telling. The guy's great until IT's ALL ON HIM.

I guess we have different standards for Dak. If the guy is missing Lamb, Amari on offense and he puts up 370 yards and 2 touchdowns and his defense sucks Dak isn't good enough to overcome all of that. I'm a Dak fan but he's not Mahomes.

The defense can be dreadful......insane lol. Just wow.

The narrative may be that Dak can perform when the game isn't on the line but you've posted nothing to suggest that he can or can't. A meaningless Raiders game sure as ell doesn't prove that.

The guy is great until its all on him. Like in the Buccaneers game right? Or against Philly last year?

 

[CowboyoWales]

The guy is great until its all on him. Like in the Buccaneers game right? Or against Philly last year?

Thats it....if we take a lead, or he's not expected to step up, or out of comfort zone he's an excellent QB......he's just not capable of raising his game, when trailing.

I dont know why you're so upset, you yourself admit he's not Mahomes.....though there are a number of other QB's i'd rather give the ball to execute a 2 minute drill.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Thats it....if we take a lead, or he's not expected to step up, or out of comfort zone he's an excellent QB......he's just not capable of raising his game, when trailing.

I dont know why you're so upset, you yourself admit he's not Mahomes.....though there are a number of other QB's i'd rather give the ball to execute a 2 minute drill.

How am I upset? We are simply debating. Is this a debating tactic you’re using? Project me as being upset? We are simply having a conversation on sports.

 

[FVSTONE]

It's year 8.

He is what he is.

He peaked in 2016.

There should be 10K likes on this post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[75boyz]

I've never seen a more thoroughly won debate by factual numbers continually argued by the loser who was incapable of accepting pure numbers.
And the irony that the loser is usually some big stats believer made it all the more enjoyable to scroll and read.
Keep up the great work CowboyoWales.

 

[Captain-Crash]

I didn't read it, so I hope the guy said it was everybody else's fault like us dak fans say. I've never seen him throw a bad pass.

 

[JW82]

Dak has been one of the best ever at NOT throwing ints prior to last year. This " its his DNA" to take chances is mindless. BUT stats can be manipulated to make points. For example, how many times when Dak threw an int on 3rd and 10 or more, were they in a 3rd and 10 or more because he missed a wr on 2nd down. I don't know the answer to that, but without all the data the analytics are useless. He has a crap year, I am hoping its the outlier.

 

[Captain-Crash]

yeah, it's everybody else fault. I blame romo.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

Dak has been one of the best ever at NOT throwing ints prior to last year. This " its his DNA" to take chances is mindless. BUT stats can be manipulated to make points. For example, how many times when Dak threw an int on 3rd and 10 or more, were they in a 3rd and 10 or more because he missed a wr on 2nd down. I don't know the answer to that, but without all the data the analytics are useless. He has a crap year, I am hoping it’s the outlier.

Daks regular style of play is conservative. Very few risky throws. When he is asked to step up and throw more it leads to seasons like last year.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

yeah, it's everybody else fault. I blame romo.

While we are simply blaming people less toss a few on Aikman as well.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Seriously is that all you've got??? It may not be the only 'clutch moment', but it's as clutch as you can get as he cant just rely on the 'same 'ole' he needs to be accurate.

Splitting hairs about being tied, ff. The reason that being tied isnt 'as CLUTCH' is that in those circumstances he has the fall back that at least a FG will take the lead. Trailing and >2min remaining is the ULTIMATE clutch scenario, it's score or lose. (BTW, there's also the INT stats with the heavy propensity of 3rd Downs and 10/10+ yards).

Very surprised you've put this much effort in it. My compliments.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Now that we've had a former NFL head coach two months ago reviewed Prescott's interceptions this past season, and a former NFL quarterback do the same this past week...this topic can be put to bed.

You wish.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Dak has been one of the best ever at NOT throwing ints prior to last year. This " its his DNA" to take chances is mindless. BUT stats can be manipulated to make points. For example, how many times when Dak threw an int on 3rd and 10 or more, were they in a 3rd and 10 or more because he missed a wr on 2nd down. I don't know the answer to that, but without all the data the analytics are useless. He has a crap year, I am hoping its the outlier.

Whoever said "it's in his DNA to take chances" is an idiot. He survived and thrived by NOT taking chances and let Zeke do all the work. When zeke tailed off (not just zeke fault, a lot of reasons) , dak did too...inlcuding one of his worst seasons ever. And of course another player gets sent off...because Dak can't win.

Yes a bit facetious there. But it does SEEM like players get sent away when Dak can;t win.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Whoever said "it's in his DNA to take chances" is an idiot. He survived and thrived by NOT taking chances and let Zeke do all the work. When zeke tailed off (not just zeke fault, a lot of reasons) , dak did too...inlcuding one of his worst seasons ever. And of course another player gets sent off...because Dak can't win.

Yes a bit facetious there. But it does SEEM like players get sent away when Dak can;t win.

Zeke hasn’t been Zeke since 2019….coincidentally the less Zeke has been apart of the offense the more successful we’ve been.

 

[Cowboys5217]

For goodness sake, ive given you: Allen, Stafford and Cousins ......probably the three 'closest' contemporary comparisons. All are career stats, so Stafford and Cousins include some ropey offenses.

You are beating up against the brick wall of cognitive dissonance, perhaps the strongest, most unbreakable wall of them all.

 

[Captain-Crash]

While we are simply blaming people less toss a few on Aikman as well.

While I was mowing my grass I started thinking. I guess these dak supporters are correct. We should be blaming the other 52 guys for not carrying dak. We all know he can't carry the team and we should start blaming all the other guys. The coaches too and the guys on the special teams need to be fighting to get up on the 52-man roster to carry dak too. Dang guys, I'm sorry. The whole team is to blame for not carrying dak. You guys were right.