OT Trade

[jterrell]

He can play LT also which could push up his market value. He looked better than their LT this preseason and that guy was a first round pick.

If he plays all season and Free misses time with the previously known foot injury, then the savings to keep Free won't look too good.

I think it's fair to say you have an obvious blindspot when is comes to Parnell.

The reality is Parnell IS playing RT. He's the 2nd highest paid RT in football. He's 29 and he has started 7 games in HIS pro career.
I agree his ability to play some LT if needed is a value add.

But Doug Free has started entire seasons at LT so it's hard to argue Free versus Parnell in that context.

Dallas loves Free's leadership and intangibles as much as his play. He is basically on a 2 year 10 mil deal. They feel he provides leadership even if he misses games. And in a couple years they realize they need the RT to be a much cheaper body. As the OC and RG may well be the highest paid guys in football at those positions before long.

Had Chaz Green stayed healthy and proven as good a selection as the other OL Dallas has hit in of late keeping Free may have looked very questionable. 5m for a swing tackle... but given that Free can play both LT/RT and will start at RT week 1 it looks like Dallas was very smart. It has cheap deals for Collins and Green going forward a ways and it has the best starting OL in football. Really hard to argue with what they've done.

 

[burmafrd]

I think it's fair to say you have an obvious blindspot when is comes to Parnell.

The reality is Parnell IS playing RT. He's the 2nd highest paid RT in football. He's 29 and he has started 7 games in HIS pro career.
I agree his ability to play some LT if needed is a value add.

But Doug Free has started entire seasons at LT so it's hard to argue Free versus Parnell in that context.

Dallas loves Free's leadership and intangibles as much as his play. He is basically on a 2 year 10 mil deal. They feel he provides leadership even if he misses games. And in a couple years they realize they need the RT to be a much cheaper body. As the OC and RG may well be the highest paid guys in football at those positions before long.

Had Chaz Green stayed healthy and proven as good a selection as the other OL Dallas has hit in of late keeping Free may have looked very questionable. 5m for a swing tackle... but given that Free can play both LT/RT and will start at RT week 1 it looks like Dallas was very smart. It has cheap deals for Collins and Green going forward a ways and it has the best starting OL in football. Really hard to argue with what they've done.

pot meet kettle in your blind devotion to Free and your hatred of Parnell

 

[xwalker]

I think it's fair to say you have an obvious blindspot when is comes to Parnell.

The reality is Parnell IS playing RT. He's the 2nd highest paid RT in football. He's 29 and he has started 7 games in HIS pro career.
I agree his ability to play some LT if needed is a value add.

But Doug Free has started entire seasons at LT so it's hard to argue Free versus Parnell in that context.

Dallas loves Free's leadership and intangibles as much as his play. He is basically on a 2 year 10 mil deal. They feel he provides leadership even if he misses games. And in a couple years they realize they need the RT to be a much cheaper body. As the OC and RG may well be the highest paid guys in football at those positions before long.

Had Chaz Green stayed healthy and proven as good a selection as the other OL Dallas has hit in of late keeping Free may have looked very questionable. 5m for a swing tackle... but given that Free can play both LT/RT and will start at RT week 1 it looks like Dallas was very smart. It has cheap deals for Collins and Green going forward a ways and it has the best starting OL in football. Really hard to argue with what they've done.

It all depends on Free's medical condition which we as fans don't know in detail. We do know that he had 2 foot/ankle surgeries in a 1 year span. We know he had been healthy until about the time he hit 30 which makes it questionable if it's truely just and injury or if it the beginning of the end.

We know that Free's rate of giving up sacks in 2014 was much worse than Parnell'rate. Bob Sturm did an in depth analysis of the sacks. This happed despite Free starting that season with about 80 starts compared to 1 for Parnell.

The probability is that Parnell will continue to improve with experience while Free will only decline with age and injury.

Hopefully Green, Mills or Weems step up and become the starting RT next year. They can cut Free and it would be a 1 year, 6M deal.

In terms of this year, the cost difference really does not matter. They should have signed the best player because Romo's health is the #1 priority over everything.

In terms of the future, Martin won't be a free agent until 2019. Romo will likely be gone by then and replaced by a cheap young QB.

 

[Manster68]

It is difficult to complain about the issues at swing tackle considering the outstanding offseason the Cowboys have had.

 

[Nightman]

If Dallas paid Parnell to start, Free probably would have played for close to nothing to stay in Dallas after he found a soft market for his services. But we will never know.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Wouldn't it be cool if we were trading for a STARTING RT and moving Free to swing tackle? Although that would surprise me, it's possible. No?

That's the way it should be, with Free getting less playing time he might be able to stay healthy for the whole year too,,,,, but no, it isn't going to happen.

 

[xwalker]

Wouldn't it be cool if we were trading for a STARTING RT and moving Free to swing tackle? Although that would surprise me, it's possible. No?

Mills might be better than Free. He had some really good games last year but he was not consistent across all games. Mario Williams only had 1 sack against the Bears and he lined up against Mills.

 

[DenCWBY]

Can't remember an off-season where the front office's mindset was so closely aligned with the fanbase.

When we want the team to address a specific position... it happens. This is fun.

Yes and kind of scary too.

 

[windjc]

Mills might be better than Free. He had some really good games last year but he was not consistent across all games. Mario Williams only had 1 sack against the Bears and he lined up against Mills.

WHY DO CERTAIN FORUM MEMBERS HAVE AGENDAS??? I don't understand the psychological reasons for it.

Quit hating Free. Saying that Mills who just got cut as 3rd on the depth chart of a crapping OL in Chicago is better than Free who ranked top 1/3rd of RTs last year on the best OL in the league is CRAZY. Like seriously, nuts.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Mills might be better than Free. He had some really good games last year but he was not consistent across all games. Mario Williams only had 1 sack against the Bears and he lined up against Mills.

Maybe athleticially. Other than that, no.

 

[xwalker]

Maybe athleticially. Other than that, no.

Based on what?

 

[Nightman]

WHY DO CERTAIN FORUM MEMBERS HAVE AGENDAS??? I don't understand the psychological reasons for it.

Quit hating Free. Saying that Mills who just got cut as 3rd on the depth chart of a crapping OL in Chicago is better than Free who ranked top 1/3rd of RTs last year on the best OL in the league is CRAZY. Like seriously, nuts.

We were going to cut Free if he didn't cut his pay in half. He was playing that poorly.

He picked it up a little but he still gets a lot of help and struggles with the power rushers.

He isn't that good and is coming off a coupe surgeries.

IDK anything about Mills but if he beat out Free I wouldn't be shocked.

Look at all the resources we are throwing at RT- CGreen, Gibson, Weems, Mills and maybe even LCollins.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Based on what?

Ok. Free is a better athlete.

 

[windjc]

We were going to cut Free if he didn't cut his pay in half. He was playing that poorly.

He picked it up a little but he still gets a lot of help and struggles with the power rushers.

He isn't that good and is coming off a coupe surgeries.

IDK anything about Mills but if he beat out Free I wouldn't be shocked.

Look at all the resources we are throwing at RT- CGreen, Gibson, Weems, Mills and maybe even LCollins.

Free pay cut was BEFORE the '14 season. Last year Free out performed the '13 Free.

AGENDAS EVERYWHERE!!!!

If we were throwing so many resources at RT we would have just spent another 42 million and signed Parnell who the coaches graded LOWER based on all 22 footage.

 

[xwalker]

WHY DO CERTAIN FORUM MEMBERS HAVE AGENDAS??? I don't understand the psychological reasons for it.

Quit hating Free. Saying that Mills who just got cut as 3rd on the depth chart of a crapping OL in Chicago is better than Free who ranked top 1/3rd of RTs last year on the best OL in the league is CRAZY. Like seriously, nuts.

I said might.

Free gave up more sacks per game played over the past 2 years despite Mills being a rookie 1 of those years.

It is possible that Mills could improve. He is only 24.

 

[windjc]

I said might.

Free gave up more sacks per game played over the past 2 years despite Mills being a rookie 1 of those years.

It is possible that Mills could improve. He is only 24.

Your infatuation with sacks is borderline autistic.

Thankfully real coaches grade on every play. Free graded higher than Parnell.

Mills graded worse than 2 other guys on the Chicago roster at the same position.

Yeah, I'm sure you are right about Mills being better.

 

[xwalker]

Ok. Free is a better athlete.

Free is a better athlete than several NFL RTs that are better players than Free.

The guy they were reported to have been giving a tryout (Brown) is a terrific athlete but has not been a very good player.

Alex Barron, the guy that caused the Cowboys to have a TD called back and lose a game back in the Wade Phillips era was a fantastic athlete but terrible player.

 

[xwalker]

Your infatuation with sacks is borderline autistic.

Thankfully real coaches grade on every play. Free graded higher than Parnell.

Mills graded worse than 2 other guys on the Chicago roster at the same position.

Yeah, I'm sure you are right about Mills being better.

You don't know where Free and Parnell graded out for the total of last season by the coaches.

 

[windjc]

You don't know where Free and Parnell graded out for the total of last season by the coaches.

Yes I do. Free started over Parnell.

In the offseason Parnell was not resigned. Free was kept.

It's pretty clear.

Free>Parnell

Garrett > Sturm

Me>You

 

[Nightman]

Free pay cut was BEFORE the '14 season. Last year Free out performed the '13 Free.

AGENDAS EVERYWHERE!!!!

If we were throwing so many resources at RT we would have just spent another 42 million and signed Parnell who the coaches graded LOWER based on all 22 footage.

The only agenda for me is to put the best team on the field. Your obsession with Free is an 'agenda'. He is not that good.