Other than Double E, who is your second favorite pick?

[JoeKing]

Dak is a little green for the NFL. He will ripen under Romo's tutelage and could walk into the starting QB position in a few years with no problem. I'm hopeful... for him and the team.

 

[jday]

I don't think irony means what you think it does.

Irony - when one says something that is the opposite of what you would expect.

So, considering that you should love any player our rivals hate, I'd say it's ironic you hate the pick even if it is for different reasons.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Where do you see a healthy Smith play?

Im torn between Mike and Will. Both premium spots in any Tampa 2 variant. Im leaning toward Mike because with his football IQ and athleticism he can make plays on both the right and left exteriors as well as control the middle of the field.

He's 6'2" and has 33" arms. To get the best 3 LB on the field I would start him at SAM and move him to MIKE for nickel.

He has the arm length to stack the los on H-backs and Y's. He can cover TE and I really like his edge blitz potential from that spot.

Now I get that he is going to operate better in space but Lee is entrenched and McClain is not suited for SAM as much.

After this year, MIKE all day every day partnered with Lee. Those tow other than standard rotation would never come off the field.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Irony - when one says something that is the opposite of what you would expect.

So, considering that you should love any player our rivals hate, I'd say it's ironic you hate the pick even if it is for different reasons.

Zeke the player is great.

Zeke the 4th overall pick is a tremendous miss-allocation of resources.

There is nothing ironic about believing this.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Tough call for me on this one. Collins, Tapper, Brown could be a starter in a couple of years or Frazier because he could kick Church/Wilcox off the 53.

 

[Nexx]

hrmm... i love this draft

 

[CyberB0b]

Dak

Smith because the pick and following discussion taught me a lot about neurology.

People didn't believe me when I said Spencer would be back because of how his microfracture had progressed a few years ago. I have that same feeling about Smith's prognosis. Barring a setback he will be back sooner than people think.

I guess that depends on your definition of "back". He came back in 2014 and had half a sack in 13 games, and was put on IR last year for the Saints.

 

[darthseinfeld]

He's 6'2" and has 33" arms. To get the best 3 LB on the field I would start him at SAM and move him to MIKE for nickel.

He has the arm length to stack the los on H-backs and Y's. He can cover TE and I really like his edge blitz potential from that spot.

Now I get that he is going to operate better in space but Lee is entrenched and McClain is not suited for SAM as much.

After this year, MIKE all day every day partnered with Lee. Those tow other than standard rotation would never come off the field.

If he sees the field this year Sam would be a great start. And he makes it an easy decision not to being McClain back in 2017

 

[Biggems]

The Sooner Scum was my 2nd fave pick of the draft

 

[jday]

Zeke the player is great.

Zeke the 4th overall pick is a tremendous miss-allocation of resources.

There is nothing ironic about believing this.

Define miss-allocation. Rhetorical question; I know what you meant. I just disagree. The idea of the draft is to make your team better. Some picks you are looking for immediate impact (which is typical from your 1st through 4th pick, if your lucky). Others you pay it forward, hoping they eventually turn into a player. But as we all know, it's a crap shoot. Which also why it is very important you stay true to your board. Your board comprises of all the players you took more time with than anyone else available and therefore you know the most about. I know you know this...just a long worded way to get to this point:

I think we can both agree that of all the players available at 4, Zeke stood to make the most immediate pack, not just to his position group, but to the entire team. Zeke should feast behind this line and do so in a manner that amasses a whole lot of points. The next best player, Ramsey in my opinion, was more of a happenmaker than a playmaker. He would have brought much needed juice to the defense, but would not impact the whole team like Zeke will. And since your 1st round pick is a guy that ideally starts right away, in my mind, Zeke was the obvious pick. Sure, between Dunbar, Dmac, and Morris, you might be able to accomplish all of what Zeke is capable of doing, but in doing so you would be telling the opposing defense what you want to do, which reduces the potential success rate exponentially. With Zeke, if the defense diagnosis from the whole playbook, as opposed to a 3rd of the playbook, incorrectly, Zeke is going to hurt them. When he hurts them, Romo and Dez/Witten/Beasley/etc can go to work. It is simple logic, which is why I don't understand any form of hate from another fan.

The Smith pick is another you might not appreciate. Look at it this way: due to the guys at the top of board being snatched up, all we essentially did was trade our 2nd for a high 2017 1st round pick. And if the doctor hadn't given the green light, I feel pretty sure they wouldn't have pulled the trigger. Smart move in my opinion.

Everything, for the exception of the late TE and RB pick ups, addressed a need that if nothing else will create competition at those spots, which will only make our starters hungrier and by extension better.

Was it my ultimate ideal draft? Absolutely not. Never is. But since it got my pet cat in Zeke, and a potential epic lber based on reports, I'll give it a B +.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Define miss-allocation. Rhetorical question; I know what you meant. I just disagree. The idea of the draft is to make your team better. Some picks you are looking for immediate impact (which is typical from your 1st through 4th pick, if your lucky). Others you pay it forward, hoping they eventually turn into a player. But as we all know, it's a crap shoot. Which also why it is very important you stay true to your board. Your board comprises of all the players you took more time with than anyone else available and therefore you know the most about. I know you know this...just a long worded way to get to this point:

I think we can both agree that of all the players available at 4, Zeke stood to make the most immediate pack, not just to his position group, but to the entire team. Zeke should feast behind this line and do so in a manner that amasses a whole lot of points. The next best player, Ramsey in my opinion, was more of a happenmaker than a player. He would have brought much needed juice to the defense, but would not impact the whole team like Zeke will. And since your 1st round pick is a guy that ideally starts right away, in my mind, Zeke was the obvious pick. Sure, between Dunbar, Dmac, and Morris, you might be able to accomplish all of what Zeke is capable of doing, but in doing so you would be telling the opposing defense what you want to do, which reduces the potential success rate exponentially. With Zeke, if the defense diagnosis from the whole playbook, as opposed to a 3rd of the playbook, incorrectly, Zeke is going to hurt them. When he hurts them, Romo and Dez/Witten/Beasley/etc can go to work. It I simple logic, which is why I don't understand any form of hate from another fan.

The Smith pick is another you might not appreciate. Look at it this way: due to the guys at the top of board being snatched up, all we essentially did was trade our 2nd for a high 2017 1st round pick. And if the doctor hadn't given the green light, I feel pretty sure they wouldn't have pulled the trigger. Smart move in my opinion.

Everything, for the exception of the late TE and RB pick ups, addressed a need that if nothing else will create competition at those spots, which will only make our starters hungrier and by extension better.

Was it my ultimate ideal draft? Absolutely not. Never is. But since it got my pet cat in Zeke, and a potential epic lber based on reports, I'll give it a B +.

This idea that you need to use a first rounder on a rb...yet alone the 4th overall pick in the entire NFL draft is just silly.

Everyone is talking about wanting to recreate 2014. In 2014 the rb we had was a 3rd rounder who could...in your words...not tell the opposing defense what you want to do. Taking it a step further....25 of 32 starting rbs in the NFL last year were not first rounders...yet alone the 4th overall pick in the entire NFL draft.

Zeke was a terrible way to spend the 4th pick in it's own right but then even moreso when you consider where else the rest of the rbs in this draft went.

And it's ironic...Dmac was drafted just 8 years ago....just 3 years ago people were talking about his legs being shot....that's 5 years in....this is what we most probably get to look forward to in Zeke at the turn of the decade. RBs don't last.

 

[jday]

This idea that you need to use a first rounder on a rb...yet alone the 4th overall pick in the entire NFL draft is just silly.

Everyone is talking about wanting to recreate 2014. In 2014 the rb we had was a 3rd rounder who could...in your words...not tell the opposing defense what you want to do. Taking it a step further....25 of 32 starting rbs in the NFL last year were not first rounders...yet alone the 4th overall pick in the entire NFL draft.

Zeke was a terrible way to spend the 4th pick in it's own right but then even moreso when you consider where else the rest of the rbs in this draft went.

And it's ironic...Dmac was drafted just 8 years ago....just 3 years ago people were talking about his legs being shot....that's 5 years in....this is what we most probably get to look forward to in Zeke at the turn of the decade. RBs don't last.

So what your saying is, demarco Murray is available in the 3rd round of every draft? Or was there another Zeke in the 3rd round of this year's draft? A guy you trust to protect Romo on 3rd and long? I get the short shelf life aspect of RB but guess what else has a short shelf life? The cowboys entire team. So if this franchise wants a super bowl in the next 5 years, no better time than the present to start to get guys who help you do that.

 

[Craig]

I dont know if that's what he was saying, but yes, a player the calibre of demarco is available in the third of every draft.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

This idea that you need to use a first rounder on a rb...yet alone the 4th overall pick in the entire NFL draft is just silly.

Everyone is talking about wanting to recreate 2014. In 2014 the rb we had was a 3rd rounder who could...in your words...not tell the opposing defense what you want to do. Taking it a step further....25 of 32 starting rbs in the NFL last year were not first rounders...yet alone the 4th overall pick in the entire NFL draft.

Zeke was a terrible way to spend the 4th pick in it's own right but then even moreso when you consider where else the rest of the rbs in this draft went.

And it's ironic...Dmac was drafted just 8 years ago....just 3 years ago people were talking about his legs being shot....that's 5 years in....this is what we most probably get to look forward to in Zeke at the turn of the decade. RBs don't last.

I think its also wishful thinking to think you can find a running back the caliber of Zeke in later rounds. I know you guys believe we don't need a great back and we can just "get by" with the McFadden and Alfred Morris' of the world or pray we get a Leveon Bell in the 2nd round but I just think its wishful thinking. Its starting to become this strange myth that you can just find a running back anywhere. Sure you can also find a quarterback anywhere as well but no one has a problem taking a QB early.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I think its also wishful thinking to think you can find a running back the caliber of Zeke in later rounds. I know you guys believe we don't need a great back and we can just "get by" with the McFadden and Alfred Morris' of the world or pray we get a Leveon Bell in the 2nd round but I just think its wishful thinking. Its starting to become this strange myth that you can just find a running back anywhere. Sure you can also find a quarterback anywhere as well but no one has a problem taking a QB early.

Why does the RB later on need to be the caliber of Zeke? Murray isn't the caliber of Zeke and he had one of the greatest rushing seasons in the history of the sport. And that was a line that didn't feature Collins.

Why do we need to spend a 4th to recreate that?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Why does the RB later on need to be the caliber of Zeke? Murray isn't the caliber of Zeke and he had one of the greatest rushing seasons in the history of the sport. And that was a line that didn't feature Collins.

Why do we need to spend a 4th to recreate that?

Because the object of the draft is to get the best prospects as possible. Why would I settle for a 3rd tier prospect when I can get the best one in the draft? And you saw how quick Murray fell off once he left this offensive line right? So our running game will only be as good as our offensive line? What happens if Zach Martin or Fredericks get hurt? Then what? How good will that running game be then?

 

[kevm3]

What if we actually get BETTER than what Murray gave us? You can find RB talent in other rounds, but then again for every Devonta Freeman or Thomas Rawls, there are the tons of RBs that DON'T pan out. We don't know how long this O-line will remain together. I'd rather not waste time trying to find some 'hidden gems' in the later round and hoping they pan out... For one, that's one less year of Romo. The one year we had decent success was when we centered our offense around the running game. I'm more ready to go back to that formula than anything else. Elliott may be a bust, but drafting the guy shows we are going to give ourselves the best option to return to that winning formula. For most other teams, it'd make no sense drafting an RB that high, but their offenses aren't predicated around a running game. Elliott may be less of a value for them than us.

 

[DFWJC]

I prefer lotto tickets much later than the 34th overall pick.
But if Smith pans out, all will be forgiven.

 

[RoboQB]

To answer the OP:

After the obvious choice of Ezekiel "Pulp Fiction" Elliott... (Book of Ezekiel 25:17)
I think I'll go with the combination of Collins and Tapper as favorites.
Looking forward to revising this to Jaylon Smith next year.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

The 6th Round Offensive Tackle could be huge.