Other Than TO, This Is A Likable Team

[Dallas]

Are you really that dense? I never want this team to lose, not ever! My point was that I would rather take my chances with someone else, and if we lose then we lose, than to win with a player like Owens.

I do not believe that he is the difference maker that some of you think he is. We won very few games because of him last year but we did lose a couple because of his drops.

Sheesh, some people

You are a good guy Thumper. I respect your position on Owens and back your right to vent said opinion on these boards. Folks certainly do not need to resort to name calling. I have been guilty in the past of letting my frustrations get the better of me. Maybe this is what happend with said poster dropping the "idiot" bomb on you.

We all have to remember. It's just debate amongst fans. If some want to finger point and attack people. They really need to find another box to spew that meanness from. Because when it's all said and done; we just want our team to win.

I honestly wish some here would stop using the Internet as some excuse to be a jackarse. We all root for the same team. We all love these boards. It really is a 2nd home to many of us.

It should never get personal amongst friends, ever. For real.

Im sure Mr. Owens is not losing any sleep knowing that some fans would rather he were someplace else other than Dallas. I don't mind the man here as long as he helps this team win. I could do w/o the shannanigans and me-time that Owens brings, but we knew that was part of T.O. when he came here. Like the man or not, you have got to respect the athlete inside him. I certainly do and Im glad he is here helping us get back to our glory.

Good evening ya'll

 

[SultanOfSix]

I do not believe that he is the difference maker that some of you think he is. We won very few games because of him last year but we did lose a couple because of his drops.

He was a difference maker. Just because he didn't catch the ball every play, or score a touchdown everytime he touched the ball, or broke six tackles everytime before he was brought down, doesn't mean he wasn't.

The fact is, his mere presence made the opposing team account for him, almost all the time with safety help. If he wasn't a difference maker, they wouldn't care for him, and JJ wouldn't be paying him 10 million per year.

 

[Dallas]

He was a difference maker. Just because he didn't catch the ball every play, or score a touchdown everytime he touched the ball, or broke six tackles everytime before he was brought down, doesn't mean he wasn't.

The fact is, his mere presence made the opposing team account for him, almost all the time with safety help. If he wasn't a difference maker, they wouldn't care for him, and JJ wouldn't be paying him 10 million per year.

:mchammer: For True !

 

[Alexander]

He was a difference maker. Just because he didn't catch the ball every play, or score a touchdown everytime he touched the ball, or broke six tackles everytime before he was brought down, doesn't mean he wasn't.

The fact is, his mere presence made the opposing team account for him, almost all the time with safety help. If he wasn't a difference maker, they wouldn't care for him, and JJ wouldn't be paying him 10 million per year.

Just like with Coach Parcells, our fans expected the world. And since the result was less than expected, on with the over-the-top rancor.

He didn't set the NFL ablaze. But he did exactly what anyone who knew anything about him would expect. Dynamic, but frustrating. Irritating, but worth the trouble. The drops should have shocked no one. Despite everything, he still was a bigger threat than any WR we have had in a Cowboy uniform in over ten years.

And we did fail to utilize him correctly. If he is used as a RAC threat and not a deep threat, then those drops that you saw last year will be far less obvious and certainly less memorable.

 

[JoeCorrado]

Just the response I would expect from someone of your ilk.

Some people were looking at him as our "savior" who was going to lead us back the SB. yeah, well that didn't happen as Mr. "I have a boo boo on my finger and can't hang onto the ball" led the league YET AGAIN in dropped passes.

And when a broken hand for a receiver is not relevant is about the time that dropped passes will become an OFFICIAL STAT. In the mean time, Owens led the COWBOYS in RECEPTIONS and RECEIVING YARDS, while leading the LEAGUE in Receiving TD's. But don't let those facts stand in the way of a good rant.

Owens has yet to EVER lead a team anywhere. The one team he was on that actually went to the SB did it while he was out!

Don't even get me started on that. If you can't recognize what Owens brought to the Eagles during the season, and during the SB then you need to adjust or remove the blinders. They seem to be blinding you.

Fact is: Terrell Owens led the Eagles to a hairs breath of WINNING the SB... doing it all after coming back from "season ending injury" and "against the advice of the doctors" - He had a great day too, if it hadn't been for a certain QB being too tired to run the two minute offense in the biggest game of his life the Eagles might have actually gotten a trophy of their very own. Don't blame Terrell Owens for falling short on that day.

Terrell Owens was brought to Dallas to make big plays, to turn short passes into long TDs. Unfortunately, he only took one (yes ONE) short pass and broke it into a long TD last season. Keyshawn did better than that when he was here and that wasn't what he was supposed to be good at. Most of the short passes Owens caught he was stopped immediately. I thought he was supposed to be good at breaking tackles.

Wrong. Owens was brought in to provide an added "ability" to make the big play. Owen's value is not just in catching balls. It is also in drawing coverage. And as for your "turning a short gain into a long gain" theory; his trade marked method of doing so is commonly referred to as the short slant. Something that Owens has made his bread and butter... why didn't the coaches incorporate that play into the offense?

Once again, short slants or no; Owens had 85 receptions, nearly 1200 yards and 13 TDs. What a lousy season, huh?- Just the best we have had from a receiver since Michael Irvin's prime.

Better compare the Cowboy's 2006 offense to the 2005 version before you go too far out on that particular limb.

I don't like Terrell Owens because he is an individual playing a TEAM sport, period. I don't another reason than that. I don't like his brashness, his arrogance, his whining when he doesn't get every pass thrown his way, his constant self-aggrandizing and drawing attention to himself rather than to the team. He would fit much better in boxing or the UFC or better yet the WWE.

Owens represents everything I dislike about athletes today. His only redeeming quality is that he isn't a criminal. Wow, that's great, good for him.

Deon Sanders what an INDIVIDUAL playing a team sport. Michael Irvin was an INDIVIDUAL playing a team sport, Chad Johnson is one too. Having a personality that screams 'hey, look at me!! I am really, really good, get me the ball!!' Is not a crime if you have the skills to back it up. It may not be humble and shy, but it isn't a big deal either. Deal with it and stop "your" whining.

So if anyone has a problem with my not liking Owens or wanting him on my team, that's just tough, get over it because nothing anyone says is ever going to change my opinion of him.

Damn kids. :bang2:

Hey, I agree iwth you that we should not get to bashing one another here- it isn't called for. You go ahead and hate whoever you like. I don't have a problem with you hating Owens, Romo, Glenn, Ware, Newman or Jerry Jones. Hate them all for all I care. But don't try to blow that stuff in my face and tell me that I have to respect the garbage, or the author of it, any more than you respect Terrell Owens.

If you don't like Owens being on "your" team, then go and cheer for the Philadelphia Eagles- they hate him over there so you will fit right in with the rest of them. Just get the knee pads out so you won't scrape your knees while groveling before McNabb and you'll be a perfect fit! (Just teasing so don't go having a fit!)

Terrell Owens is a Dallas Cowboy. Deal with it and lose the hate. It really ain't healthy for ya. It will give you heart burn and gray hair way before your time.

 

[DallasEast]

There is a lot of love for Terrell Owens. Let's look at these two responses again:

Owens has yet to EVER lead a team anywhere. The one team he was on that actually went to the SB did it while he was out!

Don't even get me started on that. If you can't recognize what Owens brought to the Eagles during the season, and during the SB then you need to adjust or remove the blinders. They seem to be blinding you.

Fact is: Terrell Owens led the Eagles to a hairs breath of WINNING the SB... doing it all after coming back from "season ending injury" and "against the advice of the doctors" - He had a great day too, if it hadn't been for a certain QB being too tired to run the two minute offense in the biggest game of his life the Eagles might have actually gotten a trophy of their very own. Don't blame Terrell Owens for falling short on that day.

Clearly, Thumper's statement was that Owens did not lead the Eagles to the Super Bowl during the '04 season. That's it. That's all the man said and he was 100% correct... unless someone here wishes to dispute the process of how teams actually attain Super Bowl berths..?

Spin, anyone?

Fact: Owens' contributions helped the Eagles win 13 regular season games.

Fact: Owens was injured during Philadelphia's final regular season win over us.

Fact: Owens did not play in the NFC Divisional victory over the Vikings.

Fact: Owens did not play in the NFC Championship victory over the Falcons.

Fact: Owens returned from injury to play in the Super Bowl loss to the Patriots.

Fact: Owens helped lead the Eagles to an NFC East title, a first-round bye and established homefield advantage throughout the playoffs.

Fact: Owens' teammates helped lead Philadelphia to its first Super Bowl berth in 24 years by winning two playoff games without him.



That's all the man said. Why even respond/reply to that part of his comments? It... was... the... T-R-U-T-H!

Damn!

 

[2233boys]

You should probably read the whole thread before you say that because I've been called all kinds of names for not liking the sainted Terrell Owens; stupid, idiot, crybaby, etc.

It is amazing how only certain opinions are acceptable among some here, if you don't share the "majority" opinion then you are an idiot.

The funniest thing is that these same people were the first in line to bash Owens when he was with the 49ERs and Eagles. He was a cancer then but he can do no wrong now that he's in Dallas and I am a traitor for not wanting him on the team. The man-love for this guy who everyone here hated 2 years ago is mind-boggling.

I am not devastated by Owens being part of the team but I wish he wasn't. I still watch every game, root like crazy, wear my Cowboys stuff, etc. Life goes on as usual.

I called you an idiot, for rather having Dallas lose, then have Owens. That just makes no sense. I could care less if you like him or not.

 

[BouncingCheese]

You should probably read the whole thread before you say that because I've been called all kinds of names for not liking the sainted Terrell Owens; stupid, idiot, crybaby, etc.

It is amazing how only certain opinions are acceptable among some here, if you don't share the "majority" opinion then you are an idiot.

The funniest thing is that these same people were the first in line to bash Owens when he was with the 49ERs and Eagles. He was a cancer then but he can do no wrong now that he's in Dallas and I am a traitor for not wanting him on the team. The man-love for this guy who everyone here hated 2 years ago is mind-boggling.

I am not devastated by Owens being part of the team but I wish he wasn't. I still watch every game, root like crazy, wear my Cowboys stuff, etc. Life goes on as usual.

I have to agree with you there 100 percent.

 

[BouncingCheese]

You are a good guy Thumper. I respect your position on Owens and back your right to vent said opinion on these boards. Folks certainly do not need to resort to name calling. I have been guilty in the past of letting my frustrations get the better of me. Maybe this is what happend with said poster dropping the "idiot" bomb on you.

We all have to remember. It's just debate amongst fans. If some want to finger point and attack people. They really need to find another box to spew that meanness from. Because when it's all said and done; we just want our team to win.

I honestly wish some here would stop using the Internet as some excuse to be a jackarse. We all root for the same team. We all love these boards. It really is a 2nd home to many of us.

It should never get personal amongst friends, ever. For real.

Im sure Mr. Owens is not losing any sleep knowing that some fans would rather he were someplace else other than Dallas. I don't mind the man here as long as he helps this team win. I could do w/o the shannanigans and me-time that Owens brings, but we knew that was part of T.O. when he came here. Like the man or not, you have got to respect the athlete inside him. I certainly do and Im glad he is here helping us get back to our glory.

Good evening ya'll

Great Post; that should be on the front page of the site IMO. (in context of course)

 

[Mansta54]

I completely agree with the article. I would rather lose without Owens than win with him, but I guess that's just me.

Now thats just STUPID!!

 

[jazzcat22]

I completely agree with the article. I would rather lose without Owens than win with him, but I guess that's just me.

And you call yourself a fan....this is one of the most ridiculous things I ever read.

 

[ethiostar]

I would rather lose without Owens than win with him, but I guess that's just me.

I'm not going to call you an idiot or anything, you are entitled to your opinion no matter how much i disagree. And for the record, i disagree with you.

My question is, would you rather see the Boys go 0-16 this coming season, since TO is going to be on the team and likely play every game?

Seriously, i'm not trying to be a smarta#$, just trying to understand your logic.

 

[03EBZ06]

It isn't stupid or idiotic just because some one has different set of standards. Not everybody have same set of standards, get over it. Some people would rather lose with dignity than win with some one you don't like or despise, for whatever the reason.

Also, where does it say in order to be a fan, you have to like every player on the team? Do you like everybody that you meet in your life? You never had personal/personality conflict with others in your life?

Some of you are being ridiculous with name calling just because some one doesn't agree with you.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

IF T.O. is the only problem in Cowboys camp then I would consider them extremely fortunate!

 

[TRUTH87]

Its amazin how us cowboy fans that support T.O get all that BS about '' you support him even tho hes a cancer, and he stood on the star and disrespected us, no one should be above the dallas cowboys franchise '' yada yada...

But then ...all of a sudden sum of you would prefer to go 0-16 with this single player on the roster? ...yeah...talk about giving so much importance to a single player over OUR FRANCHISE. and most importantly OUR WINNING TRADITION.

:starspin

 

[2233boys]

It isn't stupid or idiotic just because some one has different set of standards. Not everybody have same set of standards, get over it. Some people would rather lose with dignity than win with some one you don't like or despise, for whatever the reason.

Also, where does it say in order to be a fan, you have to like every player on the team? Do you like everybody that you meet in your life? You never had personal/personality conflict with others in your life?

Some of you are being ridiculous with name calling just because some one doesn't agree with you.

It is both and losing sucks... If you would rather lose then win, because you have personal issues with someone on the team, you are an idiot...

 

[Kilyin]

It isn't stupid or idiotic just because some one has different set of standards. Not everybody have same set of standards, get over it. Some people would rather lose with dignity than win with some one you don't like or despise, for whatever the reason.

Also, where does it say in order to be a fan, you have to like every player on the team? Do you like everybody that you meet in your life? You never had personal/personality conflict with others in your life?

Some of you are being ridiculous with name calling just because some one doesn't agree with you.

Your perceived dignity (do you know what that word means?) has absolutely nothing to do with who plays for the Dallas Cowboys.

You don't need to like every player (or coach for that matter) to be a fan and want your team to succeed.

What you are doing is taking something personally that you can't control, which is inherently unhealthy. And based on that, I'd say it is you who needs to 'get over it'.

 

[Apollo Creed]

As a fan I dislike Marcus Spears for not performing as a 1st round pick more than I dislike Terrell Owens for his 'off the field issues'. I'm not interested in the character of my team as much as I care about them winning. I wish writers would've spent more time last year analyzing the robotic nature of our defense and the frustration of our players in regard to the conservative style we were playing - instead of writing an article everytime T.O. farted.

Imagine if we just watched football games each Sunday, didn't analyze everything, and just cheered for the Cowboys. Would you notice that T.O. is a distraction, or would you think that he is a passionate player that wants to win? The media manifests these player personalities and creates all these issues, on the field nothing matters besides coaching and performance. Which is what I'd rather here about than this soap-opera nonsense every article.

 

[03EBZ06]

What you are doing is taking something personally that you can't control, which is inherently unhealthy. And based on that, I'd say it is you who needs to 'get over it'.

What I'm doing? You don't know squat about me to presume what you think I'm doing. Your response is childish and not worth my time to have any type worthwhile discussions with you.

 

[Faerluna]

What I'm doing? You don't know squat about me to presume what you think I'm doing. Your response is childish and not worth my time to have any type worthwhile discussions with you.

So let me see if I follow you...

When you tell someone to get over it, it's all good, but when he does, he's being childish. Time to look in the mirror.