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Don't worry guys the fiesta bowl has a nice trophy too :D

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BigDFan5;2452121 said:
Nahh I am fine with using the system that was agreed to instead of complaining if it doesnt go my way :D

There is no technicality the system worked the way it was designed and OU will be going to the B12 title game

I agree there should be playoffs but unless they are gonna do a playoff game next week that is moot


OU did lose to Texas that is a fact, and what did Texas gain? #3 in the BCS and a berth in the Fiesta Bowl congrats! (me too)

If that's the case... these rankings are a bigger joke than we all thought before...
 

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ABQCOWBOY;2452125 said:
This is what's so funny. I'm not crying about the BCS. My beef is the coaches poll. There isn't a one of them who would not rank one of there own teams higher if they had beaten a team, head to head in a simular situation. Not one f them would do that if it were one of there teams yet they do it with OU and Texas. It is astounding to me.

And for the record, I am not predicting anything.

Do yo9u believe the coaches should rank Tech over UT?
 

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trickblue;2452128 said:
If that's the case... these rankings are a bigger joke than we all thought before...

You may not like the system, I dont either, but the schools agreed to it, and the system is going to work the way it was meant to.
 

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BigDFan5;2452130 said:
Do yo9u believe the coaches should rank Tech over UT?

Perhaps. I don't know. I do believe this. I think that Tech is a much better team then the system gives them credit for. They were severly penalized for the lost to OU. More then they should have been IMO. I have no beef with Tech. I respect the fact that they beat us fair and square. That win should mean a lot more then it does IMO but that's just another thing about the system that I don't agree with.
 

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It's just flavor of the day...

No way you can put OU ahead of Texas...

Now fans will tell you so, but if the tables were turned, they would be outraged...
 

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ABQCOWBOY;2452134 said:
Perhaps. I don't know. I do believe this. I think that Tech is a much better team then the system gives them credit for. They were severly penalized for the lost to OU. More then they should have been IMO. I have no beef with Tech. I respect the fact that they beat us fair and square. That win should mean a lot more then it does IMO but that's just another thing about the system that I don't agree with.


That goes for every team though ABQ when you lose you get dumped down, IMO to harshly in some cases like OU going from 1st to 6th because they lost to Texas

Its just the way it works, it sucks sure, but you cant change rules in the middle of the season
 

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trickblue;2452141 said:
It's just flavor of the day...

No way you can put OU ahead of Texas...

Now fans will tell you so, but if the tables were turned, they would be outraged...


and no way you can put Texas ahead of Tech

and no way you can put Tech ahead of OU


round and round we go :D
 

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In 1993 ND beat Florida State head to head. But when the final polls came out Florida State got more votes for the NC despite ND winning its bowl game against a very good Texas A & M team. So Texas fans should know that head to head tends not to matter to a lot of voters.
 

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trickblue;2452141 said:
It's just flavor of the day...

No way you can put OU ahead of Texas...

Now fans will tell you so, but if the tables were turned, they would be outraged...


Taken from our OU boards. TM makes a case. =)

Texas has to scream head to head because they dont want you looking at this...


The other four games in the big 12 south.

Baylor: OU wins 49-17 @ Waco; UT wins 45-21 @ home.

A&M: OU wins 66-28 @ Kyle; UT wins 49-9 @ home.

OSU: OU wins 61-41 @ Boone; UT win 28-24 @ home.

Texas had only ONE road game in the South, they lost 39-33.

OU had only one home game in the south. They won 66-28. And it just so happened to be the team Texas lost to two games prior.


There is no question who the best team is now, so bury your heads in the sand whorns, and pray everyone ignores reality and looks at your LIMITED head to head argument. ("limited" because we all know that argument doesn't work with TTU, now does it?)
 

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BigDFan5;2452142 said:
That goes for every team though ABQ when you lose you get dumped down, IMO to harshly in some cases like OU going from 1st to 6th because they lost to Texas

Its just the way it works, it sucks sure, but you cant change rules in the middle of the season

So can you, in any sense of the word, claim OU should be ranked ahead of UT, given they played on a neutral site and one team won by double digits?

This BCS thing is killing me... the fact that OU could move ahead of UT is ridiculous... THEY GOT BEAT CONVINCINGLY...
 

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BigDFan5;2452145 said:
and no way you can put Texas ahead of Tech

and no way you can put Tech ahead of OU


round and round we go :D

But we CAN put UT ahead of OU... we all saw that on a neutral field...
 

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trickblue;2452151 said:
So can you, in any sense of the word, claim OU should be ranked ahead of UT, given they played on a neutral site and one team won by double digits?

This BCS thing is killing me... the fact that OU could move ahead of UT is ridiculous... THEY GOT BEAT CONVINCINGLY...

yes I can, based on the system the schools agreed to play under.

Not liking the system when it hurts your team doesnt make it unfair.

Can you in any sense of the worde clain Texas should be ranked over Tech?
 

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BigDFan5;2452155 said:
yes I can, based on the system the schools agreed to play under.

Not liking the system when it hurts your team doesnt make it unfair.

Can you in any sense of the worde clain Texas should be ranked over Tech?


They conviently don't want to argue that at all. They keep saying we are talking about Oklahoma. :D
 

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BigDFan5;2452142 said:
That goes for every team though ABQ when you lose you get dumped down, IMO to harshly in some cases like OU going from 1st to 6th because they lost to Texas

Its just the way it works, it sucks sure, but you cant change rules in the middle of the season

The biggest problems I have with OU is the fact that they are not a very good defensive team. They are viewed as better because they score a lot of points, and lets be honest, they do run up the score. Having said that, they are an average defensive team at best. Against a good defensive team, they will get beaten because they are only dominant when they can run an up tempo offense. If you stop them on first down, they become much less effective. That's just how I see it Big.
 

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trickblue;2452153 said:
But we CAN put UT ahead of OU... we all saw that on a neutral field...


and you guys earned the ranking above OU when you beat us, the problem is you guys didnt keep it, you lost the ranking by losing to Tech. OU just kept winning including mauling that same Tech team and earned the ranking back

So again congrats on beating OU but in the long run it doesnt mean anything now
 

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Dallas;2452148 said:
Taken from our OU boards. TM makes a case. =)

Texas has to scream head to head because they dont want you looking at this...


The other four games in the big 12 south.

Baylor: OU wins 49-17 @ Waco; UT wins 45-21 @ home.

A&M: OU wins 66-28 @ Kyle; UT wins 49-9 @ home.

OSU: OU wins 61-41 @ Boone; UT win 28-24 @ home.

Texas had only ONE road game in the South, they lost 39-33.

OU had only one home game in the south. They won 66-28. And it just so happened to be the team Texas lost to two games prior.


There is no question who the best team is now, so bury your heads in the sand whorns, and pray everyone ignores reality and looks at your LIMITED head to head argument. ("limited" because we all know that argument doesn't work with TTU, now does it?)

I respect you greatly, Dallas, but if OU had beaten Dallas on the neutral field you would be the first shouting this to the high heavens...

UT won this year... and hasn't faltered... give them their due...

right is right...
 

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Dallas;2452156 said:
They conviently don't want to argue that at all. They keep saying we are talking about Oklahoma. :D

Its hard to argue both sides lol
 

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ABQCOWBOY;2452157 said:
The biggest problems I have with OU is the fact that they are not a very good defensive team. They are viewed as better because they score a lot of points, and lets be honest, they do run up the score. Having said that, they are an average defensive team at best. Against a good defensive team, they will get beaten because they are only dominant when they can run an up tempo offense. If you stop them on first down, they become much less effective. That's just how I see it Big.

Our defense is our Achilles no doubt but that doesnt make us unworthy of the ranking. I mean the NFL wont DQ Dallas from a superbowl appearance if our defense is bad will they? :D
 

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ABQCOWBOY;2452157 said:
The biggest problems I have with OU is the fact that they are not a very good defensive team. They are viewed as better because they score a lot of points, and lets be honest, they do run up the score. Having said that, they are an average defensive team at best. Against a good defensive team, they will get beaten because they are only dominant when they can run an up tempo offense. If you stop them on first down, they become much less effective. That's just how I see it Big.


So the defensive display they put on against TT doesn't count?


Oh yeah - WE AREN'T TALKING ABOUT TEXAS TECH. I keep forgetting that part.
 
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