OU vs OSU

[Chinfu]

Tech being "too far back" is irrelevant in my opinion, because the only reasons they're as far back as they are is that they don't have the history that OU and Texas have and they lost later in the season.

adding to that, they are so far back because OU mud stomped them on national television.

 

[Danny White]

I dont feel like looking it up, what is OUs record against TT in Lubbock since Leach has been there?

If I am not mistaken, TT beat OU in Lubbock last year. That is one tough place to play. IMO, the three toughest places to play in the Big 12 are Norman, Lubbock, and Austin, in that order.

We've lost to them twice in recent memory if I'm not mistaken. One of those times it was outright robbery with two horrible 4th down calls by the refs on the final TT drive, one of which was on 4th and goal when the runner was clearly stopped short of the goal. (Sorry, still worked up about that one).

We also lost to them last year there when Bradford was knocked out of the game with a concussion on the first play of the game.

 

[Route 66]

The system sucks and we all know it. No matter what happens tomorrow a very deserving team is going to get screwed over, be it UT or OU.

 

[trickblue]

Wow. You've already had several servings of sour grapes but you continue to munch them down. You keep going back to that game. Wake up. Dallas beat the Giants 2x last year but couldn't do it in the playoffs. Oh but we should whine that we won two out of three with your logic.

Here are the facts: OU almost got ahead of Texas last week in the BCS. This week you played a non-ranked team at home. We went to a 12th ranked team's home field and beat them by 20. Therefore you can sit back and watch the Sooners on television next week.

Ummm... I am a UT fan... and an aTm fan...

I have no sour grapes... UT beat OU head to head... by double digits...

What POSSIBLE argument could you have that OU should be above UT? I mean... they beat them by double digits and all...

btw... the NYJG don't matter...

 

[The30YardSlant]

BTW, everyone should go back and watch that last OU TD run. Gundy called a timeout, was seen talking to his coordinator, then the Okie State defense just lets the RB walk in. Seriously, the DBs just stand up once he hits the secondary. Really funny, actually.

The fix was in

 

[Dallas]

adding to that, they are so far back because OU mud stomped them on national television.

 

[Chinfu]

OU proved they can play in a big game, nasty environment, go back and forth, then close the deal in the end against a highly ranked team on the road.

ya, thats why OU hasnt won a bowl game in ages right?

UT has how many Big 12 championships? Winning your conference is more important than Holiday bowls. just sayin...

 

[Route 66]

The Sooners lost to Texas which is one of the best teams. Texas plain ole got outplayed by Tech which proved it WAS NOT a true contender as it got sent packing in Norman.

so your most impressive win was against a team that wasnt really a contender as you stated, and at home. the only "real" contender, then, that you played since tech wasnt one, is texas, what happened in that game? since you and most of the pollsters have a horrendous memory about football past two weeks ago, ill remind you that OU was just as dominant going into the texas game. they met a BETTER team and lost handily, no argument there.

and how did tech outplay texas in the second half? if that idiot gideon, who went to high school with my fiance, didnt drop that easy interception that even my 38 week pregnant fiance could have caught this would all be a mute point.

OU proved they can play in a big game, nasty environment, go back and forth, then close the deal in the end against a highly ranked team on the road.

ya, thats why OU hasnt won a bowl game in ages right?

Texas proved it was stale in it's loss to TT and beat an overrated Mizzou and struggled more than OU against OSU IN AUSTIN.

hey, just to let you know, no one has scored more that 39 points on UT, and all the teams that OU destroyed by scoring 60 points on, UT allowed LESS points against those same opponents while resting colt for the entire fourth, not having him play into the end of a 30 or 40 point win like bradford did last wekk

OU is the hotter team now, and has done enough to leap Texas whether it be because of it's non conference schedule, or great improvements as the season progressed.

again, OU was playing just as good before the UT game, so bad pont

OU took over and dominated the end of the game tonight. That's what champions do. If anything, Texas made a case for OU with their average play toward the end of the season.

ya, by allowing 16 points in the last two games? AWESOME POINT!!

It seems quite a few coaches ie BCS polls disagree with your assumptions about this.

 

[Chinfu]

BTW, everyone should go back and watch that last OU TD run. Gundy called a timeout, was seen talking to his coordinator, then the Okie State defense just lets the RB walk in. Seriously, the DBs just stand up once he hits the secondary. Really funny, actually.

The fix was in

Here we go...

 

[Biggems]

The place OU played in tonight was as harsh as it gets when you're OU or Texas.


Oh and not to mention it was a rivalry game and OU's opponent was ranked #12. It's the same team that gave Texas fits in Austin.

I am not dogging out OSU....they are one of two teams to beat Stoopes in Norman. OSU is always tough in Stillwater, and if you look at the last 4-5 games vs UT, they have all been tough. In fact OSU had halftime leads in most of those games, only for UT to come back and beat em.

 

[The30YardSlant]

Ummm... I am a UT fan... and an aTm fan...

I have no sour grapes... UT beat OU head to head... by double digits...

What POSSIBLE argument could you have that OU should be above UT? I mean... they beat them by double digits and all...

btw... the NYJG don't matter...

Texas lost to Tech and Oklahoma beat Tech so badly that Stoops should be jailed.

Oklahoma has a signature road win against the #12 team in the nation by 3 scores, a team that could have (and maybe should have) beaten Texas in Austin, whereas Texas didnt win a "tough" road game all year.

Oklahoma is playing better right now than Texas

Again, didnt say it was right, it isnt, but there are arguments to be made.

 

[Chinfu]

that about sums it up, nice find.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Go ahead and bury your head in the sand. Just like I said, the Cowboys should have made the Super Bowl since we beat the Giants more than they beat us.

If we played OU three times, then I might see the logic in your very illogical reasoning. However, we don't and so, I don't.

If somebody said, Tech goes, then I would have zero problem with it. We got beat by Tech. They lost one game to OU at Norman. Hey, I got no issue with that but nobody talks about Tech. That's not my fault, that's the pollsters doing. However, leap frogging OU over Texas, that's a different thing. There is no reason to do it IMO. You want to talk about who's hot and who's not, OK. Everybody looks at OU and talks about how much they score, which is fine. They have a good offense but offense is only part of the game. You gotta play defense as well. In the last three games, we've given up 37 points. That's fewer then OU gave up tonight. In the last three games, OU has given up 90 points. I mean, surely anybody with eyes can see how truely ridiculous it is to say that OU is better then Texas simply because they run up the scores. Since when was football only about scoring? It's absured to say that OU is the hot team right now. The last three games, IMO, are not indicative of that IMO.

 

[Biggems]

We've lost to them twice in recent memory if I'm not mistaken. One of those times it was outright robbery with two horrible 4th down calls by the refs on the final TT drive, one of which was on 4th and goal when the runner was clearly stopped short of the goal. (Sorry, still worked up about that one).

We also lost to them last year there when Bradford was knocked out of the game with a concussion on the first play of the game.

So both UT and OU have bad times up in Lubbock during the Leach Regime.....that should account for something with the voters.....

Just like I feel that when USC goes to Corvallis, a loss should be given less weight to them, cause they always struggle there.

 

[Route 66]

Ummm... I am a UT fan... and an aTm fan...

I have no sour grapes... UT beat OU head to head... by double digits...

What POSSIBLE argument could you have that OU should be above UT? I mean... they beat them by double digits and all...

btw... the NYJG don't matter...

I can't believe you are serious! Think how Boise State feels right now. Think about other teams and how they feel. This is college football. You don't go tugging on the BCS man and cry out, "P-p-please reconsider. We beat them earlier in the season by ten points!"

I hate to tell you but the season didn't end after that game. There are a lot of factors to consider other than ten points.

 

[Biggems]

Texas lost to Tech and Oklahoma beat Tech so badly that Stoops should be jailed.

Oklahoma has a signature road win against the #12 team in the nation by 3 scores, a team that could have (and maybe should have) beaten Texas in Austin, whereas Texas didnt win a "tough" road game all year.

Oklahoma is playing better right now than Texas

Again, didnt say it was right, it isnt, but there are arguments to be made.

The Red River Rivalry is a road game

 

[Chinfu]

The Red River Rivalry is a road game

on a neutral field

 

[switzersflask]

The Sooners lost to Texas which is one of the best teams. Texas plain ole got outplayed by Tech which proved it WAS NOT a true contender as it got sent packing in Norman.

so your most impressive win was against a team that wasnt really a contender as you stated, and at home. the only "real" contender, then, that you played since tech wasnt one, is texas, what happened in that game? since you and most of the pollsters have a horrendous memory about football past two weeks ago, ill remind you that OU was just as dominant going into the texas game. they met a BETTER team and lost handily, no argument there.

and how did tech outplay texas in the second half? if that idiot gideon, who went to high school with my fiance, didnt drop that easy interception that even my 38 week pregnant fiance could have caught this would all be a mute point.

OU proved they can play in a big game, nasty environment, go back and forth, then close the deal in the end against a highly ranked team on the road.

ya, thats why OU hasnt won a bowl game in ages right?

Texas proved it was stale in it's loss to TT and beat an overrated Mizzou and struggled more than OU against OSU IN AUSTIN.

hey, just to let you know, no one has scored more that 39 points on UT, and all the teams that OU destroyed by scoring 60 points on, UT allowed LESS points against those same opponents while resting colt for the entire fourth, not having him play into the end of a 30 or 40 point win like bradford did last wekk

OU is the hotter team now, and has done enough to leap Texas whether it be because of it's non conference schedule, or great improvements as the season progressed.

again, OU was playing just as good before the UT game, so bad pont

OU took over and dominated the end of the game tonight. That's what champions do. If anything, Texas made a case for OU with their average play toward the end of the season.

ya, by allowing 16 points in the last two games? AWESOME POINT!!

You are just being close minded to the facts.

Tech was not a real contender, and OU proved it by dominating them. Texas got owned by them in the first half, and played average football in teh second and ultimately lost that ballgame.

OU playing well on the road against a high ranked in state rival was much more impressive than any UT win over KU or aTm. Oh and it's definitely more impressive than UT's loss to Tech.

No, OU wasn't as dominate early in the season. They could not establish a run against TCU, and struggled against Cincy's passing game. I should know, I was sitting in the stand for that game.

You're "OU hasn't won a BCS" argument is laughable. Wise up and realize it's 2008. Oh and not to mention OU has been the Big XII champion pretty much all of this decade.

Bottom line is, UT looked bad against OSU in Austin. They lost to Tech which was dismantled by OU. They destroyed a struggling KU. They destroyed aTm which might be the worst freaking team in the country.

Oh, and I love how you guys say you "handily" beat OU. OU was in the driver's seat for the majority of that game. It would've been nice if Demarco Murray was playing half as well as he is now. Also, Ryan Reynolds contributing to a defense that held UT to -6 rushing yards, then watching UT rush for 161 yards from the sideline had something to do with that loss. But of course you would say beatdown. Very laughable. You didn't beat us handily, you barely freaking won.

It's gonna be interesting to see what happens with OU now that they have lost their MLB, again.

UT was the better team in October, but OU has proven to be the better team in December with it's big, hard fought wins against worthy rivals.

If anything I'd give Colt McCoy the Heisman based on the head to head, but not the conference, or you'd have to factor in Tech.

One more time, OU's loss did not look as bad as Texas' loss.

OU vs. Mizzou for the 2008 Big XII Championship

 

[trickblue]

Texas lost to Tech and Oklahoma beat Tech so badly that Stoops should be jailed.

Oklahoma has a signature road win against the #12 team in the nation by 3 scores, a team that could have (and maybe should have) beaten Texas in Austin, whereas Texas didnt win a "tough" road game all year.

Oklahoma is playing better right now than Texas

Again, didnt say it was right, it isnt, but there are arguments to be made.

UT beat OU by DOUBLE DIGITS...

Please... if this was A&M they would be petitioning the Supreme Court...

UT beat OU like a red-headed step-child... be honest with yo dumb-arse self...

 

[Route 66]

If we played OU three times, then I might see the logic in your very illogical reasoning. However, we don't and so, I don't.

If somebody said, Tech goes, then I would have zero problem with it. We got beat by Tech. They lost one game to OU at Norman. Hey, I got no issue with that but nobody talks about Tech. That's not my fault, that's the pollsters doing. However, leap frogging OU over Texas, that's a different thing. There is no reason to do it IMO. You want to talk about who's hot and who's not, OK. Everybody looks at OU and talks about how much they score, which is fine. They have a good offense but offense is only part of the game. You gotta play defense as well. In the last three games, we've given up 37 points. That's fewer then OU gave up tonight. In the last three games, OU has given up 90 points. I mean, surely anybody with eyes can see how truely ridiculous it is to say that OU is better then Texas simply because they run up the scores. Since when was football only about scoring? It's absured to say that OU is the hot team right now. The last three games, IMO, are not indicative of that IMO.

And that's fine you have your own opinion and are sticking by it. You can state til you are blue in the face that you beat OU and I will stick with the fact that we dismantled the team that beat you. So this could be like the Hatfield and McCoys (Colt) forever and a day. Until things change, this is the way that it is. The coaches who vote on this quite handily had Oklahoma over Texas and felt that they are deserving to be above Texas. Its just like the good ol' Geography map.