Our offseason signings sucked...

[superpunk]

Or maybe next time you will just post in the same complaining thread YOU already made!

For the record I find the multiple TO and QB threads annoying as well.

Difference is I don't complain about them while making the multiple annoying threads about something else.

NEGATIVITY MEGA-MERGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

And the clouds are made of cotton candy and women don't fart.
I know.


They were 2 different topics of discussion.
Hence, 2 different threads.

No..same topic of discussion...you are upset at our offseason acquisitions.

You just broke it down between a draft pick and FA signings.

Still the same complaining about who we brought into the team.

 

[JackMagist]

Anyone else get this feeling?

That Fabini only made this team because we paid him so much that he better contribute something?
And that Boiman was a waste of money?
And that Vanderjagt looks like he's just going to continue our kicking problems... this time, at a higher pricetag?
And that Coleman is entirely unneeded?
And that even T.O. who is no doubt a fine player, is just causing a lot of unnecessry contraversy and spending for a guy who may be past his peak years and is going to keep guys like Rector, Hurd and Austin from being able to get enough PT to ever come into their own?

Ayodele sounds like he was the only worthy one but now we seem to have more depth at LB than ever so was he even worth the signing?

Not saying we shouldn't have attempted to upgrade these positions... I was all for siging a FS, RT, K, and WR.
But it's ironic how most of them now seem to be unnecessary.

Ok so now our FA signings suck, earlier our draft picks sucked. Aren't you just a ray of sunshine this morning QD?

Boiman was not a great pickup but at the time he was good insurance and made sense. We didn't know that our LB corps was going to become so good and so deep that he would become expendable. I see the fact that he DID become expendable as a good thing because it speaks well of the rest of our LB's.

Coleman was also insurance; he was a vet who could play two positions including Free Safety which was a weakness for us last year. We had no way of knowing that Watkins would come on the way he has as a rookie. Again the fact that we ended up not needing him is a good thing. And he did not cost us a lot; I'm not even sure he got a signing bonus.

Fabini could very easily have ended up like Boiman and Coleman and I'm not convinced that he should not have. I am pretty well on record that I thought we should have kept Pettiti. But either way Fabini was brought in just as Coleman and Boiman were; as insurance. In fact that is why he is still here. He would have been a good signing (just as Coleman and Boiman were) for his insurance value even had we kept Pettiti and released him. He is an experienced and inexpensive (relatively) insurance policy at both tackle positions.

Vanderjagt is still an unknown. If he turns it around and kicks like he has in years past then he was a good signing. Granted it doesn't look good at the moment and granted I would have preferred Venitari or Longwell but the jury is still out of Vandy.

You bring up the Owens signing (and then complain about too many TO threads) and try to justify your position that he was a bad signing by bring up Austin, Hurd and Rector. I suppose you knew before training camp that those guys would turn out like they have? Uhhh Huhhh

The only way you can say that these were bad signings would be if you had some way of having prior knowledge of how they and the other players on the team would turn out in training camp. I don't think Jerry Jones has any precognitive psychics on his payroll...maybe he should hire you.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Will see about Vandy - no one was complaining when they signed him...

That is just not true. Many complained. My hope is that we are not complaining too much during season and in post season.

The media caused most of the TO situation.

Partially true. TO caused some and media helped blow it out of proportion.

 

[stealth]

Guess I'm just in a bad mood this morning.

But I'm just saying it's ironic how in the same year we make all of these signings, we start having loads of youth step up and play for a change.

Not complaining.

if we hadn't signed the free agents we did, no doubt the rookies wouldn't have shown as well as they have. That just seems to be the way life works.

I washed my car this morning and sure as heck its raining now.


its actually quite predictable

 

[Gfunk]

way too early to label any signings in the offseason as busts

 

[DLCassidy]

It will all come down to TO and Vanderjagt, which is yet to be determined, unless you have a crystal ball. If they both come anywhere close to their past track records production wise we don't need ANY of our other signings to do more than smile and sign autographs for this to be a successful FA period, although clearly Ayodele is going to start. The rest were insurance anyway and it makes no sense to complain about not having to use your insurance.

But if Owens goes say 75/1150/12 (without being a major disruption) and Vandy goes 23/27, and throw in a solid season for Ayodele, you're going to tell me we don't get an A for the FA period?

 

[Big D]

Originally Posted by X-Dawg
I said it 2 months ago and people have cried ever since...

The question is why did they suck ....

The Answer?

Jerry Jones is a fool ...a millionaire country bumpkin wo wants to win...which is great BUT he's not a football man.

We NEED a GM

Actually, he's a billionaire country bumpkin . . . .

With 3 superbowl rings to his credit!

 

[Future]

And the clouds are made of cotton candy and women don't fart.
I know.


They were 2 different topics of discussion.
Hence, 2 different threads.

Idk about clouds being cotton candy but its a scientifical fact that women dont fart.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Idk about clouds being cotton candy but its a scientifical fact that women dont fart.

I take it you have not been close enough to many women .

 

[BigDFan5]

That Fabini only made this team because we paid him so much that he better contribute something?

Fabini made the team because he was the 3rd best tackle, obviously Parcells had no problems cutting draft picks or million dollar bonus babies. So saying he was kept because of a bonus is bs

And that Boiman was a waste of money?

When Boiman was signed before the draft were you comfy with the LB depth? Was the Cowboys supposed to look into the future and see Ellis do well at OLB, Carpenter get drafted and Hoyte sign here and surprise us all?

And that Vanderjagt looks like he's just going to continue our kicking problems... this time, at a higher pricetag?

Vandy will be just fine. But if he wasnt signed , you would be complaining about going into the season without a real kicker.

And that Coleman is entirely unneeded?

AAnother hindsight question, we didnt have watkins or Elam. Our depth was Willie Pile. So they shouldnt have tried to improve on it?

And that even T.O. who is no doubt a fine player, is just causing a lot of unnecessry contraversy and spending for a guy who may be past his peak years and is going to keep guys like Rector, Hurd and Austin from being able to get enough PT to ever come into their own?

TO hasn't cause any contreversy whatsoever. And having one of the top 3 WRs in the NFL is more important than getting Hurd, Rector or Miles playing time come on get serious

Ayodele sounds like he was the only worthy one but now we seem to have more depth at LB than ever so was he even worth the signing?

Even with the depth he is starting so that says yes he was worth it. But again we didnt have all this depth at the time he was signed.

Not saying we shouldn't have attempted to upgrade these positions... I was all for siging a FS, RT, K, and WR.

Then what is this post all about?

But it's ironic how most of them now seem to be unnecessary.

Onlu Boiman seems unecessary and he was beaten out for a job, that is a good thing

 

[kartr]

What are you a cheerleader for the morgue, Qwickdraw? Let's see how the season unfolds before writing off signings. We have to hope Parcells and Jones know what they are doing. Are there going to be some signings that don't pan out. Sure. The same can be said of other teams signings. Drafting, trades and free agent acquistions are a moving target proposition for any team.


Qwickdraw, you can't have it both ways. You can't be critical about Boiman being released after getting that big fat signing bonus and then be critical of keeping Fabini around just for the money.

We fans are outside looking in. If we are keeping Coleman on the roster despite the 4 game suspension, there most certainly has to be a good reason for it. You can never have too much veteran backup experience on defense...

With Vanderjagt, I admit I have become a little skittish. But I am going to defer to his overall track record. Let's see how this shakes out over the next game or so. Although Parcells is reported being perturbed about Vanderjagts lack of preseason playing time and erraticness, he did acknowedge that Vanderjagt is trying to work the kinks out by spending extra field time kicking.

T.O. with critical touchdowns or sustaining a drive in regular season games can easily make us forget about the preseason foibles.

So chin up, it may not be as bad as it seems, and one good win at Jacksonville would really stoke an optimistic outlook.

Babalouie out!

I think the plan was to reduce our needs and allow us to draft the best player available and we didn't do any of that. We have almost as many questions now as we had then. And that's not good when the draft and free agency have come and gone.

 

[Hiero]

is there anything you wont complain about?

 

[DallasDomination]

No we didnt have a bad offseason.


First of all T.O is a huge improvement no if and buts about it. Also Kosier VAndy and Ayodele seem like good choices to me. Fabini is 50/50 but to me anything is better that Pettiti.

 

[VirusX]

Apparently we dont have enough drama on this board for quick, so time for him to drum his own up with these two posts..

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

let me remind you of a few things. first you are using your hindsight 20/20 glasses and that's a baaaaaaddd thing to do.

Anyone else get this feeling?

That Fabini only made this team because we paid him so much that he better contribute something?

I know there is a lot of love for pettiti but lets not forget lack of tackle play was our demise last year. Tucker and pettiti ranked #1, and #2 in sacks given up in the league. Adams' status was unknown. so fabini was the best available tackle out there and we signed him for insurance.

great move.

he provides more than pettiti since he is a veteran. we already know pettiti is not going to be great and he will need help. what caused pettiti's release wasn't fabini, but McQ's play in the pre-season.

And that Boiman was a waste of money?

after last year we had James, Ware, Singlton and Burnett on the roster. we didn't know the burnett move would work and we saw fowler and shanle play. Boiman provided depth and insurance along the LB group and he was very good at special teams play. that was an excellent move in the off season. plus we still hadn't drafted carpenter and there was no Hoyte, unless you saw Miss Cleo that I am not aware of?

And that Vanderjagt looks like he's just going to continue our kicking problems... this time, at a higher pricetag?

who knew? again hind sight. he was only the most accurate kicker in history of NFL!!!!!

And that Coleman is entirely unneeded?

did you like davis? did you know we will draft Watkins and how he would turn out? did you know about Elam? again did you go to Miss Cleo without telling me?

again a great move to make sure that we hedged our bets in case draft and players didn't work out the way expected.

And that even T.O. who is no doubt a fine player, is just causing a lot of unnecessry contraversy and spending for a guy who may be past his peak years and is going to keep guys like Rector, Hurd and Austin from being able to get enough PT to ever come into their own?

TO is TO...we knew what we are going to get. a great player. a great talent. a great upgrade but with a baggage and as its evident its more the media than TO and BP.

Ayodele sounds like he was the only worthy one but now we seem to have more depth at LB than ever so was he even worth the signing?

agree. he shores up the LB group.

Not saying we shouldn't have attempted to upgrade these positions... I was all for siging a FS, RT, K, and WR.
But it's ironic how most of them now seem to be unnecessary.

like you say...hindsight is 20/20.

I loved the signings then. I love them now. its good management to identify risks and mitigate them. that we did. we just got lucky on a few players.

 

[Kilyin]

way too early to label any signings in the offseason as busts

pretty sad when a 'Skins fan has to to be the voice of reason.

 

[Dale]

Guess I'm just in a bad mood this morning.

But I'm just saying it's ironic how in the same year we make all of these signings, we start having loads of youth step up and play for a change.

Not complaining.

It's because, at the end of the day, teams aren't built through free agency.

Just look the the real backbone of this team. 80% of it were probably draft picks.

 

[AsthmaField]

QD when did you become Xdawg jr?

I agree. This isn't like you QD. Why the sudden negativity? This team looks the best it has since 1995 and suddenly you're unhappy with things?

You're a quality poster, I just don't know why you got so negative all of the sudden.

 

[AdamJT13]

I hate it when we sign players to be backups and all they end up being are backups. What a waste.