Our safeties were nothing less than a disgrace today...

MichaelWinicki;1078127 said:
I do the one who really runs the defense. And you know who that is.

yep...he should be on the ten most wanted list for fleecing Jones out of millions and millions of dollars

and you wait and see, if we end up mediocre and miss the playoffs (again) and Jones does run Parcells, the media and alot of fans will crucify him for it, even though he'd be totally justified in doing so

David
 
MichaelWinicki;1078135 said:
OK, so you're another guy that is ready to pronounce that Roy Williams is a good coverage safety.

That's 2 now. ;)

Wow. I think I have a devilish computer, because when I type one set of words, other words which mean nothing of the sort, are coming out.
 
Watkins got beat on BOTH TD's, and Roy gave up that long play to LJ Smith. If anything i say that Watkins was the disgrace. At least LJ didnt score. Roy let his man by, he wasnt paying attention. Watkins just flat out got beat!!!!
 
MichaelWinicki;1078135 said:
OK, so you're another guy that is ready to pronounce that Roy Williams is a good coverage safety.

That's 2 now. ;)

I think he's a good cover safety when matched up in the short to intermediate areas, especially when its TE's or running backs

but he was drafted as high as he was because he was a special playmaker in other ways, and this coaching staff continues to waste him (as they are doing with so many of the gifted players on this team) by almost never allowing him to do those things which made him a great, explosive playmaker

David
 
MichaelWinicki;1078144 said:
To me "alright" is average.

Glad to see you waffled on your position.

that doesn't mean he's an average player, I didn't waffle on anything

and I don't think Jerry paid ROy for his coverage abilities
 
dbair1967;1078146 said:
yep...he should be on the ten most wanted list for fleecing Jones out of millions and millions of dollars

and you wait and see, if we end up mediocre and miss the playoffs (again) and Jones does run Parcells, the media and alot of fans will crucify him for it, even though he'd be totally justified in doing so

David

It's like this... if we miss the playoffs I'd fire virtually the whole staff. There are only about three guys I'd keep.
 
SultanOfSix;1078151 said:
Wow. I think I have a devilish computer, because when I type one set of words, other words which mean nothing of the sort, are coming out.

:laugh2:

he's trying the same thing w/ me while varying his argument
 
MichaelWinicki;1078165 said:
It's like this... if we miss the playoffs I'd fire virtually the whole staff. There are only about three guys I'd keep.

honestly thats 3 more than I'd keep

its time to blow it up and start over

David
 
summerisfunner;1078091 said:
ok smart guy, then explain why Roy let LJ run by him

do you think he's that stupid?

so BP yelled at Watkins instead of ROy because he just doesn't like young players?

I wish I knew why he did it.

I didn't see him yell at Watkins for that, I just remember him when Watkins gave up the pass play one on one.

MichaelWinicki;1078135 said:
OK, so you're another guy that is ready to pronounce that Roy Williams is a good coverage safety.

That's 2 now. ;)

I just think we give Roy too much slack. Thats all. He's like teflon to alot of us.
 
summerisfunner;1078164 said:
that doesn't mean he's an average player, I didn't waffle on anything

and I don't think Jerry paid ROy for his coverage abilities

Feel free to change your handle to "summeriswaffler"... it suits you. :)
 
MichaelWinicki;1078175 said:
Feel free to change your handle to "summeriswaffler"... it suits you. :)

:jerk:

we're debating whether he's an average player, well we were until you switched to an easier argument, pointing out his flaw...which isn't that glaring
 
Deep_Freeze;1078174 said:
I wish I knew why he did it.

I didn't see him yell at Watkins for that, I just remember him when Watkins gave up the pass play one on one.



I just think we give Roy too much slack. Thats all. He's like teflon to alot of us.

That's exactly right. Folks like summeriswaffler will say anything to cover for Roy.
 
summerisfunner;1078192 said:
:jerk:

we're debating whether he's an average player, well we were until you switched to an easier argument, pointing out his flaw...which isn't that glaring

I never said he was an average player. But he's distinctly average in coverage.
 
summerisfunner;1078192 said:
:jerk:

we're debating whether he's an average player, well we were until you switched to an easier argument, pointing out his flaw...which isn't that glaring

Not glaring?

Maybe when you get a chance you can watch the Dallas/Philly game from 10-08-06.

I think you're going to get schooled. ;)
 
dbair1967;1078172 said:
honestly thats 3 more than I'd keep

its time to blow it up and start over

David

Becaue we lost to Philly on the road in October? In a game that they were pumped beyond words to win because of TO?

Newsflash, a lot of the so called experts picked us to lose this game, and we were in it right down to the end despite the QB playing like absolute garbage.

Keep posting in thread after thread about the pass rush, but the fact is we had McNabb moving on almost every play, and aside from 3 safety "mental holidays" as Vandy would put it he didn't really do much of anything.

Drama much?
 
wileedog;1078211 said:
Becaue we lost to Philly on the road in October? In a game that they were pumped beyond words to win because of TO?

Newsflash, a lot of the so called experts picked us to lose this game, and we were in it right down to the end despite the QB playing like absolute garbage.

Keep posting in thread after thread about the pass rush, but the fact is we had McNabb moving on almost every play, and aside from 3 safety "mental holidays" as Vandy would put it he didn't really do much of anything.

Drama much?

being .500 year after year "Drama much" ?

it isnt just the loss today...its year after year of the same thing

David
 
MichaelHasnoCocki......

Hmmm...

Coming up with new user handles for people is fun.
 
summerisfunner;1078164 said:
and I don't think Jerry paid ROy for his coverage abilities

That is part of my problem with Roy. I don't really believe in bringing the safety until you have to, cause the front 7 is getting beat. Coverage should be first, if you have a good front 7, for a safety. I just don't see this in Roy, and I really don't want to bring him up. I would rather our front 7 be good enough that we can keep the safeties back, which he isn't good at.

MichaelWinicki;1078197 said:
That's exactly right. Folks like summeriswaffler will say anything to cover for Roy.

MichaelWinicki;1078202 said:
I never said he was an average player. But he's distinctly average in coverage.

Agreed.
 

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