Packers Cheerleader responds to cyber-bullying

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ABQCOWBOY;4996652 said:
Well, so far she has forced both FB and the Bears Site to take down the pictures etc. Basically, to do what they should have probably done already.

So far as I can tell, the card communication approach as worked exceedingly well. Some may not like it but it is evidently proving to be effective.

No more effective than if she can just called them to take it down, or made a speaking youtube video.
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;4996755 said:
No more effective than if she can just called them to take it down, or made a speaking youtube video.

No, there is no proof of this. They said themselves that they are inundated with requests coming in and can't keep up. There is really zero proof, IMO, that a call or a youtube speaking video would have had the same effect.

However, there is quantifiable proof that the approach the young lady used was, in fact, very effective.
 

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This bullying stuff is getting out of hand IMO.........whh don't we just take away the First Amendment so everyone is happy


I really don't like the PC movement
 

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ABQCOWBOY;4996778 said:
No, there is no proof of this. They said themselves that they are inundated with requests coming in and can't keep up. There is really zero proof, IMO, that a call or a youtube speaking video would have had the same effect.

However, there is quantifiable proof that the approach the young lady used was, in fact, very effective.

I disagree. Just because one way worked does not mean the other would not have had the same effect.

One has to wonder though why someone would call the Bears over someone else being ripped. I guess there are a lot of people with way too much time on their hands.
 

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TheDallasDon;4996798 said:
This bullying stuff is getting out of hand IMO.........whh don't we just take away the First Amendment so everyone is happy


I really don't like the PC movement

Whose first amendment rights are being violated here?
 

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ScipioCowboy;4996815 said:
Whose first amendment rights are being violated here?

None???

But i didn't say they were, so not sure what ur getting at
 

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TheDallasDon;4996817 said:
None???

But i didn't say they were, so not sure what ur getting at

I don't see how this is a first amendment issue.
 

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Blitzen32;4996497 said:
Are you even reading this thread? We've already addressed the difference between altering images/directly threatening someone vs. OP's story.

That wasn't what I was trying to point out in my post. I was trying to point out the fact that using Facebook's determination to remove a post as your stick for cyberbullying is faulty. The example I used I believe is a clear case of cyberbullying. If you use your measuring stick of "Facebook says it is not cyberbullying and doing nothing, that's good enough for me that it is not cyberbullying" then I think that's faulty.
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;4996810 said:
I disagree. Just because one way worked does not mean the other would not have had the same effect.

One has to wonder though why someone would call the Bears over someone else being ripped. I guess there are a lot of people with way too much time on their hands.


I agree. It does not mean that the other ways could not have worked but what it does mean is that we know for a fact that her method did work. There is no question of that. The other ways you describe, maybe they would have worked but we don't know that they would have worked.

Her methods were effective.
 

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ScipioCowboy;4996470 said:
Depends on the how the comment was offered, but probably not. However, there's a rather wide difference between offering commentary on one's choice of attire and the comments seen in this video.

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Perfect example, on Yahoo.com there is a headline to a story about Sarah Jessica Parker wearing a coat and it says "Cookie monster wants his jacket back". Cyber bullying? To a degree I would have to say yes.
 

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MonsterD;4996872 said:
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Perfect example, on Yahoo.com there is a headline to a story about Sarah Jessica Parker wearing a coat and it says "Cookie monster wants his jacket back". Cyber bullying? To a degree I would have to say yes.

Yup. We're drawing lines in the sand here to protect this cheerleader's ego.

Michael Irvin and Santa Claus should make videos like this to get Philly fans banned from watching home games live. They were treated way worse directly.

This girl was mocked for proudly representing an organization that Bears' fans hate. I would not have personally said those things about her bc it goes against my personal morals, but I'm disgusted that she's using "cyber bullying" as a means to get a bad photo of her taken down just because some people said mean stuff about her and she couldn't resist going out of her way to checking it out.
 

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One thing I'd like to point out to people about the Packers cheerleaders. They aren't the Cowboys or any of the other teams professionals. They are literally Highschool and local college cheerleaders who volunteer to cheer for the team.
 

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Yakuza Rich;4996376 said:
It didn't look like it to me. I believe that is if they are saying that, I just didn't see a real resemblance. Honestly, it looked like the photo was shot in the 1970's.

Still, people are entitled to their opinion. If they think she's ugly, then that's their opinion. People are going to say and do a lot worse to you in life.

And I know what cyber bullying is. This ain't it.







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I don't see what the big deal is... I don't agree with those fans, but don't think it's a big deal.


Being bullied is one way that teaches you how to deal with adversity in life. Yes, in some extreme cases the bullied people go "Columbine" but for the most part I don't think it has a lasting negative effect on most people.

JMO
 

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Rack Bauer;4997023 said:
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Being bullied is one way that teaches you how to deal with adversity in life. Yes, in some extreme cases the bullied people go "Columbine" but for the most part I don't think it has a lasting negative effect on most people.

Unreal.
 

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Rack Bauer;4997023 said:
Being bullied is one way that teaches you how to deal with adversity in life. Yes, in some extreme cases the bullied people go "Columbine" but for the most part I don't think it has a lasting negative effect on most people.

JMO

...disturbing.

Bullying in its most basic format is an expression of insecurity where the bully only feels viable when he/she experts power and domination over another.

In an environment where they feel a lack of control they compensate by seeking the defenceless and regaining self confidence by stripping dignity from others.

Bullying is mean, debasing and in many cases devastating for years on the victims.

As I witness the behavior from co-workers, kids I coach, kids my wife teaches and sports parents in stands its been obvious to me has how messed up bullies are.

I wish bullying on no one. I hope people who condone or excuse the behavior will see how wrong it is and immediately denounce it.
 

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davidyee;4996617 said:
...coveniently forgotten the comment one poster wanted to do with her and a paper bag.

If that isn't a personal attack on the girl I don't know what is???

I don't understand you. Whether this is some formal or criminal term you can't sit there on your keyboard/electronic device and publicly say you condone this.

Is this how you interact with society or want it to interact with you and your loved ones. Whether you are famous or not? Rich or not?

What does this kind of action say about the culture of sports fandom that the cheerleaders have anything bearing on the value of a sports franchise?

Especially with a metric, such as beauty, where the old adage is its truly in the eye of the beholder.

Cowboys fans are certainly not showing their best in this thread.

The pioneers of the internet saw it as a tool for a rapid and civil exchange of ideas, but way too often it has become a haven for behavior that would never be tolerated face-to-face.....what is the difference between drunken behavior and much of the internet behavior we frequently see? ;)

If spammers were door salesmen, many of them would end up in the ICU - same could be said for many trollers, except most would be too cowardly to personally taunt someone. Interestingly, a number of forums has put a nominal fee for their members and strangely, trollers just disappeared.

I don't know what the future of the internet will be, but some of the advocates of absolute free speech enjoy making the internet into an asylum, free of the restrain common in civilization. It's a magical place that enables trollers and flamers as somebodies....in a public settting they would justifiably be shunned.

Just a few miles from Cowboy's Stadium recently, the person (Violentacrez) reputed to be the World's most notorious troller was exposed. For five years on Reddit, he spend his spare time pushing every button imaginable: racists, sexist, rape, jail-bait, anti-semantic...had 600 subforums: "CreepShots" enticing members to post pictures of minor girls with pictures up their skirts and the like. :mad:

Most (maybe all) of what he did may have been legal, but once he was outed, he was fired from his job and had death threats. Arlington PD took his trollbait he did incest on a stepdaughter seriously and investigated him. His interview on CNN (it's on YouTube as "CNN: REDDIT TROLL SPEAKS OUT"), he was basically sorry he was caught, but not so much for the thousands he infuriated. Has (had) only a few weeks of savings and a wife that needs expensive medication. He ruined his life. I hope more cautionary tales come out like this for those that abuse the internet.

http://www.zdnet.com/reddit-v-gawker-aftermath-violentacrez-looks-for-porn-work-7000006083/
 

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BringBackThatOleTimeBoys;4997104 said:
I don't know what the future of the internet will be, but some of the advocates of absolute free speech enjoy making the internet into an asylum, free of the restrain common in civilization. It's a magical place that enables trollers and flamers as somebodies....in a public settting they would justifiably be shunned..

http://www.zdnet.com/reddit-v-gawker-aftermath-violentacrez-looks-for-porn-work-7000006083/

...been a thought of mine on what would happen to Internet posters if their behavior was exposed to their parents, grandparents, employers, co-workers, church leaders, neighbour's, etc.

Would their bravado be on such open display? There something to be said for the civility of public life.
 

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Rack Bauer;4997023 said:
Being bullied is one way that teaches you how to deal with adversity in life. Yes, in some extreme cases the bullied people go "Columbine" but for the most part I don't think it has a lasting negative effect on most people.

JMO

:facepalm:

What a stunning comment.
 

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She's not ugly, but it seems she might be too stupid to talk about it? Why the signs? I don't understand why she doesn't articulate her thoughts about it vocally.
 
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