Packers propose banning Tush Push

gimmesix said:
I think all direct pushing by the offense should be disallowed, not just the way the Eagles do it.
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Yep. Just put the rule back the way it was forever and don't allow it at all. Not sure why the NFL even changed it to begin with, except they always want more offense.
 
Spottswoode said:
Interesting…I have never heard that. No wonder they are so good at it.
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There’s an irony for those who claim it’s not “American football”. If you could bring back the guys who played the first game in 1869 to watch NFL football today the only play that would look remotely like “American football” to them would be the “tush push”.
 
KingCorcoran said:
There’s an irony for those who claim it’s not “American football”. If you could bring back the guys who played the first game in 1869 to watch NFL football today the only play that would look remotely like “American football” to them would be the “tush push”.
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Modern American Football.

Is that better for you?

Or do you need something to attack and argue about today?
 
The Packers have proposed a rule change that would attack the so-called “tush push.” With the annual league meetings only days away, it’s looking like there’s not nearly enough of a push to get 24 total owners to vote for the proposal.

On Tuesday, Mark Maske of the Washington Post posted this on Twitter: “It’s unclear whether the Packers’ proposed ban of the tush push will get the 24 votes among the 32 NFL owners necessary to be approved, source says: ‘Not sure it can get 24.’ The sentiment is mixed on the NFL competition committee about the proposal. The owners meet next week.”

When news of the proposal first emerged early in the week at the Scouting Combine, nearly every coach and G.M. who was asked about the tush push on PFT Live had no problem with the play. Yes, Bills coach Sean McDermott — whose team uses a version of the maneuver — has expressed concern about the impact of the play on player health and safety. But no one has publicly seconded his position. And no one else has said, on- or off-the-record, that the change must be made.

Part of the problem is the formulation of the proposal. The wording doesn’t ban the pushing of the tush. It prevents it from happening “immediately” at the snap. Which makes for an easy workaround. Apply the push as part of the second effort to shove the ball past where the offense is trying to move it. Which is what the Eagles typically do, anyway.

It’s definitely unclear whether a better-worded proposal would have a chance to get 24 votes. The Packers’ proposal seems to be dead in the water due at least in part to the fact that their proposed change won’t really change anything.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profo...ets-mixed-reaction-from-competition-committee
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Does anyone have ALL-22 that can access the Philly Tush Push where they ran a fake in the formation, Jalen Hurts takes a step back or jumps back, then does the same thing forward, but then starts to roll out right but he trips over one of the backs to his right BUT there was a flag for false start and the play died with Hurts stumbling to the ground from accidentally tripping over his own man...and the flag.

If my memory serves me correctly, I think this was done in one of the playoff games WHEN PHILLY IS TRYING HARD....

I would like to see what was materializing with the receiver and corner back to the right side. Was there a safety helping the corner? Was it just one on one in open field? Was there an edge set by defense to take on Hurts rolling out? Could Hurts have easily kept running for a chunk?

This play should highlight if the defense is overly stressed out too much...even though it ended early with a flag.

I know the play is on YouTube but don't know if it is available in ALL-22 where you can see the whole field and what the defense has to protect against. I mean...Philly could still have a TE release late too.
 
FanofJerry said:
Does anyone have ALL-22 that can access the Philly Tush Push where they ran a fake in the formation, Jalen Hurts takes a step back or jumps back, then does the same thing forward, but then starts to roll out right but he trips over one of the backs to his right BUT there was a flag for false start and the play died with Hurts stumbling to the ground from accidentally tripping over his own man...and the flag.

If my memory serves me correctly, I think this was done in one of the playoff games WHEN PHILLY IS TRYING HARD....

I would like to see what was materializing with the receiver and corner back to the right side. Was there a safety helping the corner? Was it just one on one in open field? Was there an edge set by defense to take on Hurts rolling out? Could Hurts have easily kept running for a chunk?

This play should highlight if the defense is overly stressed out too much...even though it ended early with a flag.

I know the play is on YouTube but don't know if it is available in ALL-22 where you can see the whole field and what the defense has to protect against. I mean...Philly could still have a TE release late too.
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Who was Philly facing? I can look it up if you can let me know. It kinda sounds like the Tampa play, but there was no flag on that one.
 
FanofJerry said:
Modern American Football.

Is that better for you?

Or do you need something to attack and argue about today?
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There were fans that felt the forward pass was not appropriate for what was then “Modern American Football”. There was no rule against it. The game has evolved and will continue to evolve.

The tush push was born out of analytics. There will be many more plays developed over time that may look different than what fans are used to, but analytics is playing an increasing role in all sports.
 
KingCorcoran said:
There were fans that felt the forward pass was not appropriate for what was then “Modern American Football”. There was no rule against it. The game has evolved and will continue to evolve.

The tush push was born out of analytics. There will be many more plays developed over time that may look different than what fans are used to, but analytics is playing an increasing role in all sports.
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Your explanation is how the World is pretty pathetic.

I remember vividly in the early 2000's about how the illusion just would not accept Urban Myer's style of gimmicky offense in the NFL...it's for high school and college...not the NFL.

Yet here we are with wild motion plays and qbs throwing no look passes.

It just makes the world depressing with lie after lie after lie...for no reason other than to get over on someone.

Who repeatedly digs into refusing to accept a gimmicky offense...just to argue?


That being said...I've outlined how the tush push could drastically change the game on short distance downs. Change it to where it's a different viewing experience due to lack of hype for short yardage downs

If 2nd down and 1 or 3rd down and 1 turn into gimmees...it's a different product. It turns into not being allowed to give up 8 yards on a set of downs instead of 9
 
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