Pacquiao vs Bradley

[NeonNinja]

i didnt think floyd would fight him in his next fight anyway, IF it were to ever happened, i dont think it was to be this fall, but next summer IMO

I agree with Roy Jones that Mayweather wants no part of Pac.

Don't think it matters now anyway, don't see it happening after this (thanks judges).

 

[MC KAos]

oh man, bradley better have his will updated if he fights paquiao again after this quote!

"I thought I won the fight," Bradley said. "I didn't think he was as good as everyone says he was. I didn't feel his power."

 

[MC KAos]

"I'm going to make a lot of money on the rematch, but this was outrageous," Arum said.

 

[NeonNinja]

oh man, bradley better have his will updated if he fights paquiao again after this quote!

"I thought I won the fight," Bradley said. "I didn't think he was as good as everyone says he was. I didn't feel his power."

What a lie, he admitted to it after the fight. IIRC he stated he was rocked a few times and that Pac hit hard.

Bradley told Arum before the scores that he tried hard but couldnt beat that guy.

 

[kristie]

i was going to pay for the floyd/manny fight if it ever happened, but even if it does happen i dont see how i could bring myself to paying for it after this crap

same here. it just sucks right now.

 

[neosapien23]

man, i should have given that bum i saw downtown a dollar! i deserved the 10k i lost in the stock market because of it!

Not the same situation. Team pacquiao made Cotto drop weight to get a fight with Manny. Now I know 2-3 lbs does not sound like alot of weight to lose but when your struggling to get down to 147 already and then you got to get to 144 it takes a huge strain on your stamina. That was a dirty move they pulled on Cotto and the fact his promoter encouraged it shows that Arum was not looking out for Miguel. Cotto took the fight under those stipulations and gassed out in the later rounds.

As for Arum, he is an awesome person period. He is a leach and Manny should have left him a long time ago. There is no doubt in my mind that Arum holds alot of bad blood towards Mayweather. I believe that any other promoter could have worked something out with Mayweather where it could have been a 60-40 split which would have been more than fair. Arum wouldn't come off with the attitude of we don't need Mayweather. Also don't be surprised if Arum and something to do with the judges as he is Bradley's promoter as well. Arum is in it for himself and not his fighters and certainly not for the fans as well.

 

[MC KAos]

Not the same situation. Team pacquiao made Cotto drop weight to get a fight with Manny. Now I know 2-3 lbs does not sound like alot of weight to lose but when your struggling to get down to 147 already and then you got to get to 144 it takes a huge strain on your stamina. That was a dirty move they pulled on Cotto and the fact his promoter encouraged it shows that Arum was not looking out for Miguel. Cotto took the fight under those stipulations and gassed out in the later rounds.

As for Arum, he is an awesome person period. He is a leach and Manny should have left him a long time ago. There is no doubt in my mind that Arum holds alot of bad blood towards Mayweather. I believe that any other promoter could have worked something out with Mayweather where it could have been a 60-40 split which would have been more than fair. Arum wouldn't come off with the attitude of we don't need Mayweather. Also don't be surprised if Arum and something to do with the judges as he is Bradley's promoter as well. Arum is in it for himself and not his fighters and certainly not for the fans as well.

your credibility, lost

 

[neosapien23]

your credibility, lost

dude what are you talking about. Cotto had to meet Manny at a catchweight for his welterweight title even though Manny had already destroyed Oscar at 147. The catchweight was a stipulation that Cotto had to agree to get the fight with pacquiao . This is not something I'm making up either as anyone with internet could easily look it up. As a matter of fact, Cotto refused a rematch because they wanted a catchweight of 147 lbs when Cotto now fights at 154. The only difference is that Cotto had more leverage this time as Mayweather wanted to fight him as well so he refused. Now I'm not saying that Bradley won the fight because he obviously did not.

 

[MC KAos]

dude what are you talking about. Cotto had to meet Manny at a catchweight for his welterweight title even though Manny had already destroyed Oscar at 147. The catchweight was a stipulation that Cotto had to agree to get the fight with pacquiao . This is not something I'm making up either as anyone with internet could easily look it up. As a matter of fact, Cotto refused a rematch because they wanted a catchweight of 147 lbs when Cotto now fights at 154. The only difference is that Cotto had more leverage this time as Mayweather wanted to fight him as well so he refused. Now I'm not saying that Bradley won the fight because he obviously did not.

key words, he didnt HAVE to do anything

 

[JBS]

I just watched the fight again. It's much closer than I originally anticipated

 

[MC KAos]

Let's go Bradley!!

I just watched the fight again. It's much closer than I originally anticipated

of course it was!

 

[neosapien23]

key words, he didnt HAVE to do anything

your right, but if you were Cotto's promoter would you have made him come down in weight to defend his title? You can't tell me that Arum could have advised him to stand firm at 147 since he was the champ. Cotto agreed to it for a big payday and took a beating for it. Arum wanted Manny to win and had no problems with stacking the odds against Miguel. Now I'm not saying Cotto would have won at 147 as there is no way of telling, but I do know that Manny had no problems fighting at 147 against Oscar and even tried to make Marquez fight him at 147 for this last fight before the catchweight was agreed upon. He even agreed to fight Margarito at 150. Yes Miguel did not have agree to the catchweight, but his promoter who happened to promote his opponent was not looking out for his best intrest.

 

[NeonNinja]

I just watched the fight again. It's much closer than I originally anticipated

Sure.

Bradley clearly lost and by multiple rounds.

 

[JBS]

of course it was!

watch it again

 

[JBS]

Sure.

Bradley clearly lost and by multiple rounds.

I originally thought the same thing. Tape doesn't lie. Watch it

 

[NeonNinja]

watch it again

I don't have to. Pac landed almost 100 more punches and landed more 10 of 12 rounds.

Bradley was dominated. He had nothing for Pac. Boxing is corrupt, glad i'm a fan of MMA.

 

[JBS]

I don't have to.

Bradley was dominated. He had nothing for Pac. Boxing is corrupt, glad i'm a fan of MMA.

Or you could be naive. Sure

 

[BigWillie]

dude what are you talking about. Cotto had to meet Manny at a catchweight for his welterweight title even though Manny had already destroyed Oscar at 147. The catchweight was a stipulation that Cotto had to agree to get the fight with pacquiao . This is not something I'm making up either as anyone with internet could easily look it up. As a matter of fact, Cotto refused a rematch because they wanted a catchweight of 147 lbs when Cotto now fights at 154. The only difference is that Cotto had more leverage this time as Mayweather wanted to fight him as well so he refused. Now I'm not saying that Bradley won the fight because he obviously did not.

Dear Lord.

The catchweight was at 145.

Cotto had fought at 147 for years before he fought Pacquiao. He only moved up in class after he fought Manny, when he took on Yuri Foreman.

Bringing up Cotto's move to Manny is irregardless because Cotto had NEVER fought above 147 before his fight with Manny.

Cotto also only fought ONE POUND LESS at 145 than he did when he weighed in for his previous fight against Clottey. He weighed in at 146 in that fight.

 

[neosapien23]

Dear Lord.

The catchweight was at 145.

Cotto had fought at 147 for years before he fought Pacquiao. He only moved up in class after he fought Manny, when he took on Yuri Foreman.

Bringing up Cotto's move to Manny is irregardless because Cotto had NEVER fought above 147 before his fight with Manny.

Cotto also only fought ONE POUND LESS at 145 than he did when he weighed in for his previous fight against Clottey. He weighed in at 146 in that fight.

If it wouldn't have mattered, they would have never put it in contract. Cotto weighed 146 for Clottey but you and I both know he probably fights around 152 come fight night. Every pound these athletes have to make the night before is a taxing effort and and extra 2 pounds the night before is huge.

 

[BigWillie]

If it wouldn't have mattered, they would have never put it in contract. Cotto weighed 146 for Clottey but you and I both know he probably fights around 152 come fight night. Every pound these athletes have to make the night before is a taxing effort and and extra 2 pounds the night before is huge.

What are you even talking about?

It was a pound difference for Cotto. He could have taken off his shorts on the scale against Clottey and weighed in at 145 for that fight. But doing it against Manny is a huge drain?

Just stop. You're just talking nonsense at this point.