Parcells leads team to playoffs in 2 of 4 seasons and people want him gone???

[mr.jameswoods]

First off I am not attacking you.

Secondly I can defend this topic, but it is a waste of my time. You are not looking to see the big picture nor would you do anything but shoot down any positives I say about coach parcells.

You would just reply with cliches and fire him now, game has passed him by.

I would like to know from someone who thinks the game has passed him by exactly what that means to them, how has it passed him by, in what areas?

Don't you think you are being hypocritical. Aren't you going to just shoot down any crticisms of him as well? How is anything you have said not a cliche on the flip side of this issue?

I don't know if the game has passed him by from a knowledge sense. However, I do think his age has a great deal to do with his lack of intensity at times. He doesn't have the same energy level. You can just tell. In the past, Parcells, would throw fits at the media and on the sidelines. His players were scared and focused. Also, he is a lot more stubborn than he was in the past in regards to playcalling. In the past, Parcells let Bledsoe throw 70 times in a game to win. Now, he is very much being conservative at times.

Your opinion isn't more valid than mine and vice versa. I have been on these forums long enough to realize that everyone's opinions is worth 2 cents. It may take you a while to realize that but eventually you will get that like the other senior members here.

 

[D-BOI99]

First off I am not attacking you.

Secondly I can defend this topic, but it is a waste of my time. You are not looking to see the big picture nor would you do anything but shoot down any positives I say about coach parcells.

You would just reply with cliches and fire him now, game has passed him by.

I would like to know from someone who thinks the game has passed him by exactly what that means to them, how has it passed him by, in what areas?

The decision making is what makes the game pass him by. If coordinators make a bad call he's supposed to step in and do something about it but yet he does nothing.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Newsflash there are no great teams anymore.

New england is the exception because they had sefless players who did whatever was asked of them.

Other than that, this is a one year at a time league that goes week to week.

Anyone can beat anyone. I dont think there is one great team in this league.

The chargers are the closest to it, but the quarterback play is so average that you really cant call them great.

10-6 gets us into the playoffs and a shot at the championship.

If owens catches a wide open touchdown in washington we are 11-5 with a home playoff game. If he catches that ball down the sideline last night who knows maybe we are 12-4.

This is not the same parcells of old days, but I will take him. The parcells haters are pretty funny. They are always referencing things they dont even know to be true and stating cliche's.

This team matches up well with seattle. If we go in there and win in two weeks, the tune around here will be quite different.

How do you think seattle fans feel. Look at the way they are playing. they have a hall of fame to be coach also and they lose games in mind boggling ways.

Stuff happens. Get over it. Blaming the coaches everytime we lose is sorry. You have to be a fan through thick and thin. You cant go firing everyone and changing players after every loss.

It's easiest to blame the coaches. Happens at all levels of sports. I'm not saying our coaches aren't part of the problem, because they are.
I have read post after post about how talented we are on defense, that might be true but we don't look to smart. Execution is terrible at best. Even our players are saying that.
Parcells has warned us all season long that this team could swing either way, fans ignored that. There is allot of truth to what you posted. I enjoyed the read.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Parcells is too stubborn and thats going to be our downfall unless we make a change. He's getting too old and the game has passed him bye. look how long it took him to make a change at QB, and his stubborness about getting a real 3-4 coordinator.

And Romo might not be the same if he was tossed in any sooner. Neither of us know for sure. Parcells must have known some thing.

 

[JPM]

And just like the personal attacks one makes when they can't offer a substantial defense to the issues brought forth

Ridiculously Predictable

I didn't see a personal attack.

I'd like Bill to say only if Zimmer goes away for good. God I hope Cowher leaves maye we can bring in Dick LeBeau

 

[theebs]

Don't you think you are being hypocritical. Aren't you going to just shoot down any crticisms of him as well? How is anything you have said not a cliche on the flip side of this issue?

I don't know if the game has passed him by from a knowledge sense. However, I do think his age has a great deal to do with his lack of intensity at times. He doesn't have the same energy level. You can just tell. In the past, Parcells, would throw fits at the media and on the sidelines. His players were scared and focused. Also, he is a lot more stubborn than he was in the past in regards to playcalling. In the past, Parcells let Bledsoe throw 70 times in a game to win. Now, he is very much being conservative at times.

Your opinion isn't more valid than mine and vice versa. I have been on these forums long enough to realize that everyone's opinions is worth 2 cents. It may take you a while to realize that but eventually you will get that like the other senior members here.

Gee thanks, I need your approval to have an opinion. The length of your being on this forum means nothing. I have been on many forums. The one I used to go to everyday I stopped going to this past year, I had over 3000 posts.....The time I signed up has nothing to do with any of this.

One more thing, I know what parcells weaknesses are. I dont in any way think he is perfect. I am not and do not defend him with cliches.

Your saying he was conservative last night? That is crazy. We were trying to throw the ball down the field all night. We couldnt protect long enough to do it.


Like I said I am not going to get into this any further, it is a waste of time, you dont like the guy so everything can be spun to a negative.

Like last year, he should have been fired by many members everytime a kicker missed a field goal because parcells fired steve hoffman. That is one of my personal favorites.

Keith davis is in perfect position for an interception or at least a deflected ball and he screws it up jumps too late and gets beat for a td, that becomes parcells conservative defense and his cover 2 stink and he should be fired even though the player was in perfect postion.

we lost yesterday, I get it, everyone should be fired and all players changed the day after a loss as always.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

It's easiest to blame the coaches. Happens at all levels of sports. I'm not saying our coaches aren't part of the problem, because they are.
I have read post after post about how talented we are on defense, that might be true but we don't look to smart. Execution is terrible at best. Even our players are saying that.
Parcells has warned us all season long that this team could swing either way, fans ignored that. There is allot of truth to what you posted. I enjoyed the read.

I too feel bad at times for coaches. It may seem like they take too much of the blame. However, I know that Dennis Erickson was referred to as a genius when he left Miami with a 60+ win and 6 loss record. Yes, coaches are given much too much credit as well when a team wins so let's not forget that.

Our society is based on leadership. We blame leaders for losses and we praise them for victories regardless of who was actually responsible for either. Parcells didn't win the Superbowl in 1990/1991. Scott Norwood missed a chip shot. Yet, Parcells was given the credit for the win but anyone with a half a brain could realize that had Norwood made that kick, Parcells legendary status would probably not be what it is today.

Yes, Parcells wasn't responsible for yesterdays loss. Players play the game. His playcalling wasn't so bad that it cost us the game. Yes, I get that too. But ultimately, he is the leader of this team. Ultimately, it's his job to get the players to focus and play with intensity. That was lacking yesterday. Parcells deserves the blame because he is the leader of this team.

 

[D-BOI99]

And Romo might not be the same if he was tossed in any sooner. Neither of us know for sure. Parcells must have known some thing.[/quote

They knew what romo could do before the season started. In matter of fact troy aikman said on fox when we played the bucs that bledsoe told him in the 05 season that he hopes he never gets injured because he'll lose his job to romo.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

I like the Tuna and think he's done a good job of managing this team and it's personalities...

But...

I do wish he would show more emotion, something more than the "glares"...

Problem is when he yells at players, he is said to be a cranky old fart who doesn't realize today's players won't take that kind of crap.

 

[Aikbach]

This team is stagnant, 10-6 was squeezed from supposed turnips with Quincy Carter behind center. 6-10 from the Testeverde turnips with a harder schedule. 9-7 from the moslty revamped (supposedly) Bledsoe led 3-4 turips and another 9-7 or meaningless 10-6 campaign out of the UFA messiah led Super Bowl bound re-built monster defense of Parcells mythical fourth year turnips.

It ain't working, I thought that these might be the 91 Cowboys, a little tweaking away from getting it together but these are the 99 Cowboys and they have no injury excuses.

 

[Doomsday]

How many people predicted this team to do better then 10-6? This team is still moving in the right direction they just arent as far as long as we had hoped. We got a little taste of the old days and we want it back but lets not forget how bad this team was a few years ago.

 

[Aikbach]

How many people predicted this team to do better then 10-6? This team is still moving in the right direction they just arent as far as long as we had hoped. We got a little taste of the old days and we want it back but lets not forget how bad this team was a few years ago.

I think we all for the most part bought the kool aide press clippings and pre-season hype and saw a 12-4 campaign especially after Romo's fast start so the disappointment is justified. Parcells has never had such an inept bunch and they are tainting his record.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

And Romo might not be the same if he was tossed in any sooner. Neither of us know for sure. Parcells must have known some thing.[/quote

They knew what romo could do before the season started. In matter of fact troy aikman said on fox when we played the bucs that bledsoe told him in the 05 season that he hopes he never gets injured because he'll lose his job to romo.

You need to look to Jerry Jones for that move. He said "I wont go into this season with a rookie QB." After paying ten million to owens who could blame him. As it works out he was wrong.
Parcells isn't the blame for the whole world coming to an end. He has a boss.
Parcells also helped this team get to that game yesterday where they could have been on top of the East, some forget that though.

The look of disgust on Parcells face is no different than when some one tells a person a hundred times what to do and they don't get it. I often have that look with my own employees.

 

[StanleySpadowski]

I would like to know from someone who thinks the game has passed him by exactly what that means to them, how has it passed him by, in what areas?

It's been touched upon in other threads but the game has passed Parcells by in his overall approach. His conservative stance where everything's fine as long as every player simply does his job is flawed in today's NFL for several reasons.

First off it relies on players being fundamentally sound. Today's players aren't due to the changes in college football since Parcells success with the Giants. The influx of more and more money has transformed more programs into taking a win now approach. Building slowly through teaching fundamentals has given way to gimmicky quick fixes to appease the boosters and cash in on the increased $$$.

Secondly, it fails to take into account expansion and the watering down of the talent pool league wide. Since Parcells last Super Bowl victory, there are 88 starters playing today who weren't then due to the additional four teams.

So in a nutshell, Parcells' approach works great in theory but poorly in practice. Today's great coaches now understand that there will be a breakdown either physically or mentally on every other play but pressure the opponent into not taking advantage of them.

 

[SA_Gunslinger]

How many people predicted this team to do better then 10-6? This team is still moving in the right direction they just arent as far as long as we had hoped. We got a little taste of the old days and we want it back but lets not forget how bad this team was a few years ago.

good point.

i predicted 10-6 and division champs.

and both can still happen.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Problem is when he yells at players, he is said to be a cranky old fart who doesn't realize today's players won't take that kind of crap.

Man ain't that the truth. Parcells doesn't stand a chance with some guys.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Ok people what is it.

Is he too conservative because he likes to run or is he not conservative enough because he wants to throw when we fall behind?

 

[Aikbach]

good point.

i predicted 10-6 and division champs.

and both can still happen.

It wouldn't be deserved, it would be the equivalent of how the refs handed Pittsburgh the Super Bowl last year and in 1978...ok not THAT bad but pretty close. It would be an unearned honor just like Romo's premature Pro Bowl invitation.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

It wouldn't be deserved, it would be the equivalent of how the refs handed Pittsburgh the Super Bowl last year and in 1978...ok not THAT bad but pretty close. It would be an unearned honor just like Romo's premature Pro Bowl invitation.

I don't know, if you win more games than the teams in your division, by definition it means you earned it.

 

[Wrangler87]

It wouldn't be deserved, it would be the equivalent of how the refs handed Pittsburgh the Super Bowl last year and in 1978...ok not THAT bad but pretty close. It would be an unearned honor just like Romo's premature Pro Bowl invitation.

If you fish long enough, someone is liable to take the bait.