Parcells plans to play Tony Romo "quite a bit" this preseason

[ABQCOWBOY]

the latter is BP's philosophy, can't go wrong either way, but it takes an extraordinary coach to do one or the other, which we have in BP

I agree. I have always believed that Parcells is a great coach. I just don't like that he doesn't rely more on the QB position to win games. Doesn't mean he's wrong, per say. It's just not what I would prefer. I like big QBs in big games doing exceptional things to win games. I am a product of my era. I grew up watching Staubach and other great QBs. It is a difficult thing to get used to, this bus driver methidoligy.

 

[RCowboyFan]

I agree. I have always believed that Parcells is a great coach. I just don't like that he doesn't rely more on the QB position to win games. Doesn't mean he's wrong, per say. It's just not what I would prefer. I like big QBs in big games doing exceptional things to win games. I am a product of my era. I grew up watching Staubach and other great QBs. It is a difficult thing to get used to, this bus driver methidoligy.

Well althougth my exposure to NFL is only limited to last 14 years ( although I am probably old enough to have watched Staubach in his last few years, just wasn't in US at that time), I can concur with you. I rather have great QB than a bus driver and win the SB. I want both, is that too much to ask?

 

[InmanRoshi]

Bledsoe himself credits most of his developement to his position coach, at the time.

So it wasn't Parcells, just someone from Parcells hand picked coaching staff to coach his QB's. Yeah, I can see why you wouldn't want to give Parcells the credit there. Make sure you split those hairs carefully.

And his QB coach when they went to the Superbowl was Chris Palmer.

 

[Alexander]

Romo should have started the last game of the season when it was certain we were not going to the playoffs. That was a good time to get some live reps. Maybe we could even have allowed the other guy a series also.

We didn't know until kickoff we were eliminated.

So you would have given Romo the majority of reps in practice that whole week?

 

[Alexander]

Which would be Chris Palmer.

My question is this (and it was never answered):

What head coach does a sterling job of "developing QBs"?

Since it is now the QB coach who gets the credit in the case of Bledsoe, I am curious to know which HEAD COACH does this fine job of developing QBs.

Because pretty much, you can take all the soundbytes from Aikman, who credits Turner and so on and conclude that relatively few head coaches do a very good job of developing their QBs.

And Parcells' track record, despite what QB coach or succeeding head coach you want to give credit to, is above the norm.

Is he Mike Holmgren? No. But Mike Holmgren has a pretty lousy track record of "developing" linebackers.

 

[Doomsday101]

My question is this (and it was never answered):

What head coach does a sterling job of "developing QBs"?

Since it is now the QB coach who gets the credit in the case of Bledsoe, I am curious to know which HEAD COACH does this fine job of developing QBs.

Because pretty much, you can take all the soundbytes from Aikman, who credits Turner and so on and conclude that relatively few head coaches do a very good job of developing their QBs.

And Parcells' track record, despite what QB coach or succeeding head coach you want to give credit to, is above the norm.

Is he Mike Holmgren? No. But Mike Holmgren has a pretty lousy track record of "developing" linebackers.

Looking at some of the QB's Bill has had they have had their best success while playing for Bill be it Simms, Hostler, Vinny and Bledsoe. If some don't think Vinny played his best under Bill just look at how poor his numbers were prior to playing for Parcells. This notion that Bill does not know how to deal with or judge QB's is well off base.

 

[RCowboyFan]

Looking at some of the QB's Bill has had they have had their best success while playing for Bill be it Simms, Hostler, Vinny and Bledsoe. If some don't think Vinny played his best under Bill just look at how poor his numbers were prior to playing for Parcells. This notion that Bill does not know how to deal with or judge QB's is well off base.

Maybe I am not getting this right, but what ABQ seems to be saying is, its not that BP doesn't know how to deal with or judge QBs, but that he is not exactly the guy who never mis judges a QB or one who gets his QB choice correct every time. Unlike say, his RB choices or LB choices, where he almost seem to have 100% success rate. To me or in my opinion, it seems like, most often, BP gets his QB wrong, the first time. But when he does get a guy, he does utilize him the best of his ability or knows how to use the strengths of a QB.

 

[Doomsday101]

Maybe I am not getting this right, but what ABQ seems to be saying is, its not that BP doesn't know how to deal with or judge QBs, but that he is not exactly the guy who never mis judges a QB or one who gets his QB choice correct every time. Unlike say, his RB choices or LB choices, where he almost seem to have 100% success rate. To me or in my opinion, it seems like, most often, BP gets his QB wrong, the first time. But when he does get a guy, he does utilize him the best of his ability or knows how to use the strengths of a QB.

No coach gets any position right all the time, face it in the coaching profession coaches go from genius to dunce in the minds of many fans very quickly. I saw Norv Turners name as a guy who knew QB's but other than Aikman who elese has he developed into a star QB?

 

[Alexander]

Maybe I am not getting this right, but what ABQ seems to be saying is, its not that BP doesn't know how to deal with or judge QBs, but that he is not exactly the guy who never mis judges a QB or one who gets his QB choice correct every time. Unlike say, his RB choices or LB choices, where he almost seem to have 100% success rate. To me or in my opinion, it seems like, most often, BP gets his QB wrong, the first time. But when he does get a guy, he does utilize him the best of his ability or knows how to use the strengths of a QB.

What head coach has a hit rate that high for QBs? I can name one and that's Mike Holmgren. So I guess since he isn't Mike Holmgren, he doesn't do a very good job with his QBs?

I really don't get the reasoning. It's like he is damned because his forte is defense. I think for a defensive-minded coach, he has done a solid job of getting QBs and better than some other coaches who are supposed to be offensive gurus. He can take an average talent and win with it. To me, that's all that needs to be done.

 

[Alexander]

No coach gets any position right all the time, face it in the coaching profession coaches go from genius to dunce in the minds of many fans very quickly. I saw Norv Turners name as a guy who knew QB's but other than Aikman who elese has he developed into a star QB?

And since Chris Palmer is the man who completely made Bledsoe, why did he fail with Tim Couch?

 

[RCowboyFan]

No coach gets any position right all the time, face it in the coaching profession coaches go from genius to dunce in the minds of many fans very quickly. I saw Norv Turners name as a guy who knew QB's but other than Aikman who elese has he developed into a star QB?

Exactly. I think thats ABQ's point too and probably of mine too. BP or any other HC, is not infallible when it comes to getting QB position correct, because its such a hard position to get it right or bat 100%.

So people saying, if BP says a players is not ready, it might not be exactly true or he might not be correct. Case in point, Bradie James second season. BP said he should be starting or pushed him hard to start, and we all know it didn't happen that way. I know thats not a case for where he said someone wasn't ready and the person was ready, but just saying BP's word is not necessarily end all.

Having said that, I agree, coaches have more information and are better judges obviously than any of us typing away to glory

 

[Hiero]

Bill Parcells plans to play Tony Romo "quite a bit" this preseason.

"I think had he been thrown to the wolves, so to speak, he probably would be looked upon a little differently than he is now," Parcells said. "So we'll see; I'm hoping to play him quite a bit in preseason."

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Source: Fort Worth Star-Telegram
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good stuff. Cant wait to trade Henson.

 

[Doomsday101]

Exactly. I think thats ABQ's point too and probably of mine too. BP or any other HC, is not infallible when it comes to getting QB position correct, because its such a hard position to get it right or bat 100%.

So people saying, if BP says a players is not ready, it might not be exactly true or he might not be correct. Case in point, Bradie James second season. BP said he should be starting or pushed him hard to start, and we all know it didn't happen that way. I know thats not a case for where he said someone wasn't ready and the person was ready, but just saying BP's word is not necessarily end all.

Having said that, I agree, coaches have more information and are better judges obviously than any of us typing away to glory

The last line says it all. I understand what this board is for and that is so people can express their opinion but an opinion based on limited information just does not carry much weight. It would be like telling a race car driver how to do his job just because I have a car and know how to drive as well.

 

[RCowboyFan]

The last line says it all. I understand what this board is for and that is so people can express their opinion but an opinion based on limited information just does not carry much weight. It would be like telling a race car driver how to do his job just because I have a car and know how to drive as well.

Well go post that in the Nascar message board then

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

My question is this (and it was never answered):

What head coach does a sterling job of "developing QBs"?

Since it is now the QB coach who gets the credit in the case of Bledsoe, I am curious to know which HEAD COACH does this fine job of developing QBs.

Because pretty much, you can take all the soundbytes from Aikman, who credits Turner and so on and conclude that relatively few head coaches do a very good job of developing their QBs.

And Parcells' track record, despite what QB coach or succeeding head coach you want to give credit to, is above the norm.

Is he Mike Holmgren? No. But Mike Holmgren has a pretty lousy track record of "developing" linebackers.

Currently, I'd say the best right now is probably Chucky. Payton might be there soon.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

And since Chris Palmer is the man who completely made Bledsoe, why did he fail with Tim Couch?

Couch had no arm, to speak of.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

The thing I don't understand in all of this is why do we not invest a high pick in a quality QB prospect? What kinda gets lost in all of this is that Simms, Bledsoe and even Pennington (if you want to throw him in there) were all first round picks. Heck Hostetler was the 3rd pick of the 3rd round in 1984. Second QB taken behind Esiason. None of these guys were exactly projects coming out of college. All were pretty highly regarded coming into the NFL. If these are the success stories that can be viewed as proof, why then do we not invest in talent at the position through the draft? I just don't get it.

 

[RiggoForever]

What head coach has a hit rate that high for QBs? I can name one and that's Mike Holmgren. So I guess since he isn't Mike Holmgren, he doesn't do a very good job with his QBs?

I really don't get the reasoning. It's like he is damned because his forte is defense. I think for a defensive-minded coach, he has done a solid job of getting QBs and better than some other coaches who are supposed to be offensive gurus. He can take an average talent and win with it. To me, that's all that needs to be done.

The thing about Parcells, is that he stresses ball control on offense. To me, this aids a QB marginal in talent/ability extraordinarily.

When a team is able to put together 7 minute plus drives consistently in a game, it begins to take a toll on the will of your opponent. It doesn't need to be pretty, a win is a win.

Case in point...the high power Bills offense vs the Giants in the 1990 Super Bowl. I think the Giants controlled the ball for like 40 plus minutes in that game, even though the Bills were probably the better team in terms of overall talent, particularly on offense.

Guts and power beats glitz in championship games.

 

[RiggoForever]

Currently, I'd say the best right now is probably Chucky. Payton might be there soon.

After seeing Brunells improvement and regained confidence from 2004 to 2005, I'd give a vote to Bill Musgrave (now with the Falcons).

If he does similar work with a talent like Vick, the Falcons could be very tough to beat.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

After seeing Brunells improvement and regained confidence from 2004 to 2005, I'd give a vote to Bill Musgrave (now with the Falcons).

If he does similar work with a talent like Vick, the Falcons could be very tough to beat.

I believe the poster was asking about HCs who were good at developing QBs as opposed to position coaches, per say.

However, I do agree with you that Musgrave has done a good job. Interestingly enough, Bill Musgrave was a 4th round pick by the Dallas Cowboys back in 91, out of Oregan I believe.