Parcells plans to play Tony Romo "quite a bit" this preseason

[ABQCOWBOY]

The original statement was that I do not believe Parcells has ever really been very good at developing QBs.

I guess I made it up.



One and so now it's developing elite QBs? It's usually tactful in a debate to let someone know when you change the ground rules.



I'll give you Belichick as freebie because he has the track record with Brady. But that means Pete Carroll and Mike Mularkey had more of an influence on Drew? Why is it I think if you asked him, he would laugh in your face?

Nothing has changed. I don't believe he ever has been all that good at it but I do believe, entirely, in the "I guess I made it up" part.

I have no need to change any premise. It's likely you wouldn't pick it up if I did that in any case so let me just assure you, that's not what's going on here. There now see, you can rest easy. Oh, I'm sorry, I mean ground rules. Wouldn't want to twist this any more then you already have.

 

[InmanRoshi]

How bout this. Maybe I can get back to you once we see what Leftwich or Rogers or any of the other QBs we passed on do whatever there going to do. Hows that?

Jerry has stated that he's not going to draft a QB until he's finally finished with his infatuation with failed baseball players. Which is why the sooner Henson is released and we move on from this pipedream, the better. The self proclaimed "QB snobs" of the board are blindly following a QB who entering his third year in NFL has proved to be somewhere between Timmy Chang and Tony Romo.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Jerry's not going to draft a QB until he's finally finished with his infatuation with failed baseball players. Which is why the sooner Henson is released and we move on from this pipedream, the better.

The self proclaimed "QB snobs" of the board are infatuated with a QB who entering his third year in NFL has proved to be somewhere between Timmy Chang and Tony Romo.

Honestly Rosh, I don't even understand why you have a beef with anything I've posted.

If Henson succeeds, that's great. I don't know that he will or not but I am not holding my breath on it. Same goes for Romo. I liked Henson over Romo because I know he has the physical capability to become a great QB in the NFL. Doesn't mean he will. I don't believe Romo has the natural attributes to do this. That's why I never really bought into him. I hate the fact that we don't go out and try to get good young quality talent at QB rather then always trying to nickle and dime the damn thing to death. The most success this team has ever enjoyed was with Staubach (Heisman Trophy Winner) and Aikman (Number 1 over all NFL pick) at QB. To me, it just makes sense to invest in the position. I respect Parcells as a coach immensly. I do not feel as if he is always right. I do believe, for the most part, in his methods. His views on QB, I just don't agree with. I don't know why this is such a big deal. I guess because we choose to make it so. What can I tell you?

 

[SultanOfSix]

Jerry has stated that he's not going to draft a QB until he's finally finished with his infatuation with failed baseball players. Which is why the sooner Henson is released and we move on from this pipedream, the better. The self proclaimed "QB snobs" of the board are blindly following a QB who entering his third year in NFL has proved to be somewhere between Timmy Chang and Tony Romo.

Huh? Timmy Chang? When is he ever going to sniff any playing time in an NFL game? And the last time I checked, Henson was the only one who actually started an NFL game, so that puts him ahead of Romo. None of the three has proven anything. As far as potential is concerned, any NFL scout will tell you that Henson has the most, then Romo, then Chang. And that is all we have right now - potential.

 

[Zippy Speedster]

I take that to mean Parcells wants us to see what he's seeing out of Romo everyday since he's been here over Henson. Surely will be interesting too if Romo comes out and starts doing all the things the Henroids and His Million Boyfriends think Drew is doing so flawlessly in Europe, only better in the big leagues. I believe that's the road Bill is about to take us down.

And holy moly I can't wait to see the ____eating grin plastered across Bill's face that first press conferance after Romo lights it up to a degree Henson just isn't familar with or ever will be. Or many of your reactions, too. Going to be a priceless moment in Zone History.
:laugh1:

 

[TheSkaven]

Bledsoe should only see a few possesions a game before the backups take over.

I have this love/hate thing going with the pre-season. Great to see the rookies, but every play is another potential injury. Very nervewracking. Hope they get Bledsoe in and out.

 

[CowboyManDan]

I wish we'd just make a move and invest highly in a top young QB. Bledsoe is just a stopgap, who's best years are behind him. Still he's a solid starter. But I'd rather roll the dice with higher potential, and invested in a top QB from the draft. Parcells doesn't have the patience to deal with the growing pains, so therefor when the stopgap QBs are finished, we'll probably be in the same boat - that is, unsure of what we have for a long-term starting QB.

I believe the QB is the most important position on the field. He touches the ball every single play. Parcells doesn't believe this, and he's the coach not me.

But how anyone can accurately judge Henson or Romo is beyond me. They've been in the league for 3-4 years and no one knows what they'll do when the bullets are flying in real regular season games.

Right now, none of our 3 QBs jumps at me:
Bledsoe - solid, but at the end of his career and still forces a mistake at inopportune times
Romo - hasn't played a real game in like 4 years and was a UDFA
Henson - has only played NFLE and about 3 quaters of NFL games and can't beat out Romo to this point

Please get the real long-term deal in here!

 

[wileedog]

I wish we'd just make a move and invest highly in a top young QB.

People keep saying this, but our last top 10 pick was Newman 4 drafts ago.

And this team has had too many holes to fill over the last couple of years to package a bunch of picks to move up high enough to grab anyone of consequence.

Given our last two drafts (results still pending on this one of course), I would far rather have the players we do then be missing 3 or 4 of them and have a QB who still needs a year or two more before he even sees the field. With the stronger NFCE we wouldn't be in a position to contend for anything this year.

 

[Alexander]

I wish we'd just make a move and invest highly in a top young QB. Bledsoe is just a stopgap, who's best years are behind him. Still he's a solid starter. But I'd rather roll the dice with higher potential, and invested in a top QB from the draft. Parcells doesn't have the patience to deal with the growing pains, so therefor when the stopgap QBs are finished, we'll probably be in the same boat - that is, unsure of what we have for a long-term starting QB.

I believe the QB is the most important position on the field. He touches the ball every single play. Parcells doesn't believe this, and he's the coach not me.

But how anyone can accurately judge Henson or Romo is beyond me. They've been in the league for 3-4 years and no one knows what they'll do when the bullets are flying in real regular season games.

Right now, none of our 3 QBs jumps at me:
Bledsoe - solid, but at the end of his career and still forces a mistake at inopportune times
Romo - hasn't played a real game in like 4 years and was a UDFA
Henson - has only played NFLE and about 3 quaters of NFL games and can't beat out Romo to this point

Please get the real long-term deal in here!

I agree with your points and I am convinced we will do our best to get a legitimate prospect in a Cowboy uniform next April. I am not convinced we have our future QB on the roster right now unless Romo simply wows me in the preseason.

I have grave reservations about banking that he is another Jake Delhomme, just waiting to bloom once handed the job.

This past draft put the finishing touches on the defense, next time it's important to key on offense, specifically QB and WR.

 

[Alexander]

People keep saying this, but our last top 10 pick was Newman 4 drafts ago.

And this team has had too many holes to fill over the last couple of years to package a bunch of picks to move up high enough to grab anyone of consequence.

Given our last two drafts (results still pending on this one of course), I would far rather have the players we do then be missing 3 or 4 of them and have a QB who still needs a year or two more before he even sees the field. With the stronger NFCE we wouldn't be in a position to contend for anything this year.

But do we have to draft a QB in the top ten? Or even the first round?

Good QBs can be found in the second, third rounds also. Had things played out differently, I think we would have gone after Whitehurst as rumored and we would have a future prospect.

 

[wileedog]

But do we have to draft a QB in the top ten? Or even the first round?

Good QBs can be found in the second, third rounds also. Had things played out differently, I think we would have gone after Whitehurst as rumored and we would have a future prospect.

I'm honestly not sure that would satisfy a lot of people around here.

If he's not on the field after a year the "Stop with the 3rd rounders and get a real QB in here!" posts would just crank up again. If he struggles his first season on the field (as all QBs not named Brady generally do) it would get brutal.

Of the top of my head I can't think of one QB currently starting in the league that I can see that we passed on in the draft other than Leftwich, and he's spent a significant amount of time in the tub. FA wise there's Delhomme, but he hardly has any better pedigree than Romo or Henson, we just got unlucky. Plus he's only a couple years younger than Bledsoe anyway.

Am I missing anybody?

*edit* P.S., I wouldn't have minded at all if we had gotten Whitehurst this year.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Its really difficult to discern the status of Romo & Henson but if you MADE me guess I would probably say that the coaches do indeed like what they have in Romo more than Henson at this point and after 2 full seasons and another Tcamp coming up it wouldn't shock me to see Henson moved out.

Brian Estridge, who is Galloway's sidekick on the drive-home show, apparently became pretty good friends with Sean Payton when he was here, and the two continue to talk despite Payton's going to the Saints. Galloway asked Estridge on Friday if Payton would be interested in getting Romo, and he said yes, that Payton had tried to trade for him and he still would like to get him to New Orleans.

Galloway then asked Estridge if Payton would be similarly interested in Drew Henson, and Estridge said, "Umm... No."

FWIW.

 

[Alexander]

I'm honestly not sure that would satisfy a lot of people around here.

That's right. "Franchise" and "pedigree". I forgot.

Problem is, teams invest millions and countless draft choices on first round QBs with only moderate (if that) success. Even if we had a top five-ten pick in April, we could have chosen who? Young? Don't make me laugh. Leinart? Cutler?

Your Aikmans, Bledsoes and so forth only come at the very top of a draft. And I don't know about you, I am not willing to lose 12-15 games to get that QB fix. Nor am I willing to sacrifice draft choices to move up either unless that QB is a sure thing. I don't see one in college football that's worth it.

Take a look around at recent drafts. Spend a first round choice on a QB, you are just as likely to get a Kyle Boller as anything else. And what did the Ravens have to do yesterday even though they took a "franchise" QB in the first round?

If he's not on the field after a year the "Stop with the 3rd rounders and get a real QB in here!" posts would just crank up again. If he struggles his first season on the field (as all QBs not named Brady generally do) it would get brutal.

No doubt.

Of the top of my head I can't think of one QB currently starting in the league that I can see that we passed on in the draft other than Leftwich, and he's spent a significant amount of time in the tub. FA wise there's Delhomme, but he hardly has any better pedigree than Romo or Henson, we just got unlucky. Plus he's only a couple years younger than Bledsoe anyway.

Am I missing anybody?

Not really.

 

[Alexander]

Brian Estridge, who is Galloway's sidekick on the drive-home show, apparently became pretty good friends with Sean Payton when he was here, and the two continue to talk despite Payton's going to the Saints. Galloway asked Estridge on Friday if Payton would be interested in getting Romo, and he said yes, that Payton had tried to trade for him and he still would like to get him to New Orleans.

Too bad there isn't a solid veteran alternative right now. I wouldn't have any problem hitting up the Saints for a nice first day choice for Romo. Not in the least.

Galloway then asked Estridge if Payton would be similarly interested in Drew Henson, and Estridge said, "Umm... No."

FWIW.

:laugh1:

I don't mean to laugh as this is tragic news, but the way this Estridge fellow said it struck me as funny.

 

[wileedog]

That's right. "Franchise" and "pedigree". I forgot.

Problem is, teams invest millions and countless draft choices on first round QBs with only moderate (if that) success. Even if we had a top five-ten pick in April, we could have chosen who? Young? Don't make me laugh. Leinart? Cutler?

Your Aikmans, Bledsoes and so forth only come at the very top of a draft. And I don't know about you, I am not willing to lose 12-15 games to get that QB fix. Nor am I willing to sacrifice draft choices to move up either unless that QB is a sure thing. I don't see one in college football that's worth it.

Take a look around at recent drafts. Spend a first round choice on a QB, you are just as likely to get a Kyle Boller as anything else. And what did the Ravens have to do yesterday even though they took a "franchise" QB in the first round?

Preaching to the choir. I hate the idea of packaging a bunch of picks to move up to get a "franchise" guy and pray he doesn't flop. If he does you've lost draft picks, a ton of money, and probably 2-3 seasons are completely wasted because you have too much invested in the guy to cut the experiment short if its not working.

Fortunately, Parcells seems to think the same way, although that's what seems to cause 90% of the QB angst around here.

I'd be all for using a mid-round pick and developing him, but quite frankly that's exactly what we did with Henson. I think we'll know his fate one way or the other after TC. If he busts, we'll start over this April.

I'll admit I'm still hopeful for Romo. Parcells has alluded to him a couple of times in a positive light, and seems pretty upbeat about him going into camp.

But if anyone thinks we are moving up this year to grab Quinn they're delusional.

 

[Charles]

Jerry has stated that he's not going to draft a QB until he's finally finished with his infatuation with failed baseball players. Which is why the sooner Henson is released and we move on from this pipedream, the better. The self proclaimed "QB snobs" of the board are blindly following a QB who entering his third year in NFL has proved to be somewhere between Timmy Chang and Tony Romo.

Wow!!!

 

[Alexander]

I'd be all for using a mid-round pick and developing him

But Coach Parcells is "no good" at developing QBs, you see? So we HAVE to get a FRANCHISE QB with PEDIGREE.

But if anyone thinks we are moving up this year to grab Quinn they're delusional.

There is a chance that Quinn might not be nearly as coveted as some think. I read an article from the Sporting News I believe that said that scouts are poking holes in his game and are not completely convinced he isn't a product of the system. A lot can happen in a year. For all we know the top QB prospect is someone we never heard of. Nobody thought David Carr was going to be a top choice, and he ended up that way.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

But Coach Parcells is "no good" at developing QBs, you see? So we HAVE to get a FRANCHISE QB with PEDIGREE.



There is a chance that Quinn might not be nearly as coveted as some think. I read an article from the Sporting News I believe that said that scouts are poking holes in his game and are not completely convinced he isn't a product of the system. A lot can happen in a year. For all we know the top QB prospect is someone we never heard of. Nobody thought David Carr was going to be a top choice, and he ended up that way.

Or, we could just hire you to do it Alex. After all, you seem to know every thing there is to know about the subject.

 

[Alexander]

Or, we could just hire you to do it Alex. After all, you seem to know every thing there is to know about the subject.

Thanks for the cheap shot, ABQ.

Hey, at least I know where Browning Nagle played.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Thanks for the cheap shot, ABQ.

Hey, at least I know where Browning Nagle played.

Anytime. Only a response in kind but then you knew that didn't you Al.

You know, it's interesting to me. I acknowledged that I made the mistake but true to form, you elect to pump life into a dead horse. Just as you did with your remarks earlier. It's cool, and it's expected. I know how you are and you may depend on the fact that I will be looking to you to provide the very best insight into all things football related. I know the extensive experience you have playing and such.

I'll be watching for your post Alex.

BTW, your welcome.