Parcells = too many band-aid solutions

[Eskimo]

I think the fundamental problem since BP came here is that he has tried to "win too many games" right from the beginning. He has said from the beginning that he is too old to lose and thus he has tried to eek out every win possible even if it was to the long-term detriment of what was essentially a moribund no-talent franchise that he inherited.

Instead of tearing down the whole thing when he came here ala Jimmy Johnson, he has tried to plug up holes with stopgap solutions often at unreasonable price and not allowing for appropriate player development.

The fact is that we are now still at least two years away from being a contender - the same two years we were away when he inherited the team.

It doesn't take a long time to build a contender these days with FA and the draft. The fact that he has failed to do so after turning over the whole roster and getting a "team that he likes" tells us that this is the vision he has for the Dallas Cowboys - it is not a vision that I share.

It is time to go in a new direction. This is fundamentally a young man's game and applies to players and coaches. I think we should go after the best proven coordinator there is out there and see what he can do. The man I really wanted, Saban, has probably accomplished as much as BP has in three years in one year. That is the kind of coaching we need to take us into the furture.

 

[Cbz40]

Post of the day........

 

[TunaFan33]

I think the fundamental problem since BP came here is that he has tried to "win too many games" right from the beginning. He has said from the beginning that he is too old to lose and thus he has tried to eek out every win possible even if it was to the long-term detriment of what was essentially a moribund no-talent franchise that he inherited.

Instead of tearing down the whole thing when he came here ala Jimmy Johnson, he has tried to plug up holes with stopgap solutions often at unreasonable price and not allowing for appropriate player development.

The fact is that we are now still at least two years away from being a contender - the same two years we were away when he inherited the team.

It doesn't take a long time to build a contender these days with FA and the draft. The fact that he has failed to do so after turning over the whole roster and getting a "team that he likes" tells us that this is the vision he has for the Dallas Cowboys - it is not a vision that I share.

It is time to go in a new direction. This is fundamentally a young man's game and applies to players and coaches. I think we should go after the best proven coordinator there is out there and see what he can do. The man I really wanted, Saban, has probably accomplished as much as BP has in three years in one year. That is the kind of coaching we need to take us into the furture.

Bum Phillips and Mike Ditka also had this same problem in N'Awlins.

When Phillips came to the Big Easy, he brought in alot of his older players at key positions(Stabler, Campbell, etc). Ditto Ditka there too(as he went through yet many journeymen QBs). Ultimately-the roof crashed in on them badly.

Yeah-the OL sux-However, the minute Bill started bringing in his older guys at key position, my gut told me we were DOOMED.

 

[Sarge]

I think the fundamental problem since BP came here is that he has tried to "win too many games" right from the beginning. He has said from the beginning that he is too old to lose and thus he has tried to eek out every win possible even if it was to the long-term detriment of what was essentially a moribund no-talent franchise that he inherited.

Instead of tearing down the whole thing when he came here ala Jimmy Johnson, he has tried to plug up holes with stopgap solutions often at unreasonable price and not allowing for appropriate player development.

The fact is that we are now still at least two years away from being a contender - the same two years we were away when he inherited the team.

It doesn't take a long time to build a contender these days with FA and the draft. The fact that he has failed to do so after turning over the whole roster and getting a "team that he likes" tells us that this is the vision he has for the Dallas Cowboys - it is not a vision that I share.

It is time to go in a new direction. This is fundamentally a young man's game and applies to players and coaches. I think we should go after the best proven coordinator there is out there and see what he can do. The man I really wanted, Saban, has probably accomplished as much as BP has in three years in one year. That is the kind of coaching we need to take us into the furture.

I've said this exact thing a hundred times. Nice post.

 

[Eskimo]

Post of the day........

Hey, isn't that Hos' line?

 

[Cbz40]

Hey, isn't that Hos' line?

NO!!!!! He stole it from me

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

NO!!!!! He stole it from me

Aha so that makes YOU the Wise old Cowboy he is always talking about.

 

[Asklesko]

It is time to go in a new direction. This is fundamentally a young man's game and applies to players and coaches. I think we should go after the best proven coordinator there is out there and see what he can do. The man I really wanted, Saban, has probably accomplished as much as BP has in three years in one year. That is the kind of coaching we need to take us into the furture.

Amen

 

[Cbz40]

Aha so that makes YOU the Wise old Cowboy he is always talking about.

You got it!!!!!!

 

[VoR]

I think the fundamental problem since BP came here is that he has tried to "win too many games" right from the beginning. He has said from the beginning that he is too old to lose and thus he has tried to eek out every win possible even if it was to the long-term detriment of what was essentially a moribund no-talent franchise that he inherited.

Instead of tearing down the whole thing when he came here ala Jimmy Johnson, he has tried to plug up holes with stopgap solutions often at unreasonable price and not allowing for appropriate player development.

The fact is that we are now still at least two years away from being a contender - the same two years we were away when he inherited the team.

It doesn't take a long time to build a contender these days with FA and the draft. The fact that he has failed to do so after turning over the whole roster and getting a "team that he likes" tells us that this is the vision he has for the Dallas Cowboys - it is not a vision that I share.

It is time to go in a new direction. This is fundamentally a young man's game and applies to players and coaches. I think we should go after the best proven coordinator there is out there and see what he can do. The man I really wanted, Saban, has probably accomplished as much as BP has in three years in one year. That is the kind of coaching we need to take us into the furture.

Great post!
All the Parcells bashing aside, I just don't understand how he could put pieces together on defense (although the Ware over Merriman is looking REAL shaky right now) but didn't do his magic with the O-Line.

Say what you want about Percy, but he always built his teams on the O and D lines and so far he's failed on the O-Line.
Al Johnson
Rob Pettiti
Jacob Rogers
Stephen Peterman
signing Rivera.......
all those blunders baffle me. What happened to Jumbo Elliot, Bart Oates, Eric Moore types he was so good at getting? That's the one thing that just doesn't make sense : he knew he needed a very good line to protect Bledsoe and make things work on offense.
Give him a big fat F- for the line he put together,with or without Flo.

 

[Trip]

I think the fundamental problem since BP came here is that he has tried to "win too many games" right from the beginning. He has said from the beginning that he is too old to lose and thus he has tried to eek out every win possible even if it was to the long-term detriment of what was essentially a moribund no-talent franchise that he inherited.

Instead of tearing down the whole thing when he came here ala Jimmy Johnson, he has tried to plug up holes with stopgap solutions often at unreasonable price and not allowing for appropriate player development.

The fact is that we are now still at least two years away from being a contender - the same two years we were away when he inherited the team.

It doesn't take a long time to build a contender these days with FA and the draft. The fact that he has failed to do so after turning over the whole roster and getting a "team that he likes" tells us that this is the vision he has for the Dallas Cowboys - it is not a vision that I share.

It is time to go in a new direction. This is fundamentally a young man's game and applies to players and coaches. I think we should go after the best proven coordinator there is out there and see what he can do. The man I really wanted, Saban, has probably accomplished as much as BP has in three years in one year. That is the kind of coaching we need to take us into the furture.

Ding, ding, ding.... we have a winner. Tell him what he's won Johnny....

Well, Eskimo, you're gonna get one more year of hole plugging, no QB developing and trying to fill needs with aging players that Parcells "likes" on offense.

Then maybe in 2007 you'll get a change, and then we can start over.

 

[Eskimo]

Ding, ding, ding.... we have a winner. Tell him what he's won Johnny....

Well, Eskimo, you're gonna get one more year of hole plugging, no QB developing and trying to fill needs with aging players that Parcells "likes" on offense.

Then maybe in 2007 you'll get a change, and then we can start over.

The sad part of it is that is 100% truth.

 

[MapleLeaf]

I think the fundamental problem since BP came here is that he has tried to "win too many games" right from the beginning. He has said from the beginning that he is too old to lose and thus he has tried to eek out every win possible even if it was to the long-term detriment of what was essentially a moribund no-talent franchise that he inherited.

It is time to go in a new direction. This is fundamentally a young man's game and applies to players and coaches. I think we should go after the best proven coordinator there is out there and see what he can do. The man I really wanted, Saban, has probably accomplished as much as BP has in three years in one year. That is the kind of coaching we need to take us into the furture.

...it's a bit premature to lump Parcells into the ball which is some of our more glaring weaknesses.

It's really because of Bill that we are where we are at - disappointed. When Campo was here we were - embarassed with bags over our heads.

Our needs are simple enough to address. Two offensive lineman, one linebacker, one safety and a QB for the future. That's really only five people for seven draft rounds and free agency.

The biggest fault I see with BP is he did not prepare his 3-4 defence for the grind of this long season and they are now out of energy and have lost a step. Power running is killing these guys.

 

[DipChit]

The fact is that we are now still at least two years away from being a contender - the same two years we were away when he inherited the team.

I dont necessarily disagree with what you all said, except for the above. If this team is 2 years away now (which it may be), it was 10 years away when he got here. You do realize just how totally devoid of talent this franchise was, right?

Virtually all the players we have to hang our hat on now (regardless of who exactly they might be) have been acquired in the last 3 years.

And had he tore it down when he got here, instead of tryin to win as best he could right off while doin it his way, how well would that had gone over at the time?

Jimmy had an excuse.. he was just a bumpkin that took over for a legend.. of course he was gonna "suck". No big surprise when he went 1-15, right?

But Parcells tearing it down and doin a 2-14, 3-13 type thang out of the chute..when even Campo went 5-11 three times... are you kiddin me? They'd have been screaming... "Why didnt we just keep Campo!!!!"

Hell, we hear that now even when having won more games than we've lost.

 

[Ashwynn]

I've said it before. The first two years he spun his wheels. He was fooled into thinking we were better then we really were. Then caught flatfooted when we revealed our true self.

I think this was the first rebuilding year of any conscequence. I think they have a plan thats heavily dependent pn rebuilding that O line. I think next year we will be in a better position to actually make noise and back it up. The D will get better. Maybe this is the wall that they are supposed to hit, being so young.

I am not worried so long as I see a heavy emphasis on the Oline this offseason. We gotta retool that or nothing else matters.

 

[Eddie]

I think this was the first rebuilding year of any conscequence. I think they have a plan thats heavily dependent pn rebuilding that O line. I think next year we will be in a better position to actually make noise and back it up. The D will get better. Maybe this is the wall that they are supposed to hit, being so young.

Let's see what we have to work with as far as building for the future.

- NO OL worth mentioning.
- Jason Witten at TE.
- JJ and MB3 make a nice pair, but neither have shown much ... attribute to the poor OL play.
- NO long term solution at QB.
- NO young WR's to build upon. Sorry, Crayton is NOT the answer for our future.
- Canty, Spears, and Ware are good building blocks for the front.
- NO DT worth mentioning. Ferguson is a waste and Glover is old.
- NO real LB's ... Ware is a pass rusher, not a real LB.
- solid in the 2ndary, but still need a real FS.

So there you go. We have about 75% of the team which needs to be overhauled.

 

[Eskimo]

...it's a bit premature to lump Parcells into the ball which is some of our more glaring weaknesses.

It's really because of Bill that we are where we are at - disappointed. When Campo was here we were - embarassed with bags over our heads.

Our needs are simple enough to address. Two offensive lineman, one linebacker, one safety and a QB for the future. That's really only five people for seven draft rounds and free agency.

The biggest fault I see with BP is he did not prepare his 3-4 defence for the grind of this long season and they are now out of energy and have lost a step. Power running is killing these guys.

Our QB that will lead us to the promised land certainly isn't the guy under center right now unless you manage to build a team superb in every other facet of the game and we are far away from that right now.

In terms of the OL, I count only one quality starter and he is on the IR right now leaving us with none on the field. The sad part is this part of the team has been invested in heavily right now - we have probably spent more first day draft picks and more money on OL (not counting any team with an $8M all-pro LT) than any team in the league right now and still have no returns. Not only do we not have any returns, there is little reason to expect any returns in the future.

About the LBs, it is shocking that you would decide to build a 3-4 defense without any 3-4 LBs. I'm not going to say anymore about that right now as this was talked about adanauseum in the offseason.

Safety - well that is the least of our concerns. Any decent DC should be able to find some greybeard off the street who could fill in at safety without compromising the whole defense.

 

[Big D]

I thought this too when BP first came in. I thought he was turning us into the giants west slowing the team down for his bulky brand of TOP football. Its not really exciting but I've come to see what BP's trying to do and it would be hard to argue that fact that we've made significant improvements.

This loss sucks but I'd wait to see how we finish up before we cut the cord too soon.

 

[TunaFan33]

Let's see what we have to work with as far as building for the future.

- NO OL worth mentioning.
- Jason Witten at TE.
- JJ and MB3 make a nice pair, but neither have shown much ... attribute to the poor OL play.
- NO long term solution at QB.
- NO young WR's to build upon. Sorry, Crayton is NOT the answer for our future.
- Canty, Spears, and Ware are good building blocks for the front.
- NO DT worth mentioning. Ferguson is a waste and Glover is old.
- NO real LB's ... Ware is a pass rusher, not a real LB.
- solid in the 2ndary, but still need a real FS.

So there you go. We have about 75% of the team which needs to be overhauled.

I don't get it-there have been plenty of playoff teams, and even recent Super Bowl winners, that have had glaring weaknesses, but they still manage to find a way to come out on top.

The Iggles, other than TO, never had a WR. The Pats, in 2 of their Super Bowls, had no RB(and no WR) in their first one. The Bucs' OL in 02 was worse than us. And that Rams team that won the Super Bowl actually had a WEAK defense.

Why can't we do anything despite our glaring weaknesses? Like I said-we came out with no heart, guts, or even any fire in our eyes.

 

[Eddie]

Ask BP.