Parcells ?

[dannywhites]

GTaylor,
are you saying its the players ,not the coach,BINGO

 

[dannywhites]

Years are with Belichick as STICTLY DC
1985-1990 Giants
1996 Patriots
1997 thru 1999 Jets
The rest of Parcells years are without

 

[dannywhites]

which means if you want Parcells record with Belichick as STICTLY a DCthe record is
with Belichick--105-54
without--------58-69
the record speaks for itself

 

[BigDFan5]

so he is around .500 without BC like I said, but this includes years he took **** teams over which you shouldnt expect to be good years 3-12 giants, 5-11 Patriots those 2 years which were first with those teams screw that record up by putting him automatically 15 games below .500

 

[BigDFan5]

ok
As stictly a DEFFENSE COORDINATOR
Parcells record WITH Belickick is 105-54
.................without Belichick is 46-50
now whats the argument ?

which means if you want Parcells record with Belichick as STICTLY a DCthe record is
with Belichick--105-54
without--------58-69
the record speaks for itself

Parcells went 12-19 over the last 20 minutes it seems

 

[dannywhites]

the 12-19 were when he took over the Giants with Belickick as linebacker or secondary coach.
Add the 12-19 with Belichick as a linebacker coach,and the 46-50 with Belichick as STICTLY a defensive coordinator
and you have
Surprise 58-69

 

[BigDFan5]

the 12-19 were when he took over the Giants with Belickick as linebacker or secondary coach.
Add the 12-19 with Belichick as a linebacker coach,and the 46-50 with Belichick as STICTLY a defensive coordinator
and you have
Surprise 58-69

So you think using the first years of taking over a bad team is a fair evaluation?

 

[big dog cowboy]

I will agree the man is a VERY GOOD COACH,but without Bill Belicheck as his defensive coordinator ,he has NEVER won a thing .

Jimmy Johnson never won crap with out Wanny as his DC or Norv as his OC.

Doesn't taint the opinion of most people about him.