Parsons next contract

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He plays too hard. A good fault to have but he burns himself out by the end of a season. He's one of the greatest edge rushers for the Cowboys I have even watched.

I pick up his 5th year option and then give him the non-exclusive tag, IMO this will give us his best 5 years of his career on his rookie deal and will probably net us two 1st round picks in compensation.

After the early 90's when FA started, it's all about your team and players normally do not stay with the same team throughout their career anymore. Since it's a business now, treat it so and make the un-emotional choices.
In a computer sim, this would be a good idea. In real life you have a disgruntled player. He's going to expect an extension after this upcoming season. He's not going to play 4 years and take a franchise tag for a LB. He'll ask for a trade and or start making business decisions.

The good news is, giving him a big contract with an out after 3 years isn't that much different. It's similar to Zeke. Everyone complaining and whining like ladies over his contract. When in reality, only one of the years he's played here did he have a big cap hit. One year.
 

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I hear ya. It's not going to be pretty. But it's pretty much a must. Jerry just has to hope he brings the Vaseline.
Question.......can we afford the highest-paid defensive player ( $30M+ ) AND Dak making close to $50M???? I guess I'm asking if keeping Parsons can threaten Dak's future with the team.
 

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Question.......can we afford the highest-paid defensive player ( $30M+ ) AND Dak making close to $50M???? I guess I'm asking if keeping Parsons can threaten Dak's future with the team.
Unfortunately yes, and I'll tell you why. Even if Parsons signs the biggest contract that ever was or ever will be after his season, his big cap hits won't start until probably 2027. You can have a lot of Dak between now and then. And hey, that might be around the time they move on from Dak.
 

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Is he a LBer or an Edge? It matters......Stephen Jones has often said he will never set the market. Parsons's next contract could significantly change that .........






He will be paid like an Edge so won't matter really
 

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He will reset the market and as an edge player. Question is how friendly the details and term of the contract will be.

Will it be a 5+ year contract or will he want a short term deal, in hopes of getting that 3rd deal sooner?
His deal will have set restructures early and often, so cap hit wise they can make it work early on with Dak's deal/CDL/Diggs deals being the same way.
 

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Will be edge money. No way he gets MLB money. He needs to be moved around more this year. He is getting burned out towards end of year.
 

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In a computer sim, this would be a good idea. In real life you have a disgruntled player. He's going to expect an extension after this upcoming season. He's not going to play 4 years and take a franchise tag for a LB. He'll ask for a trade and or start making business decisions.

The good news is, giving him a big contract with an out after 3 years isn't that much different. It's similar to Zeke. Everyone complaining and whining like ladies over his contract. When in reality, only one of the years he's played here did he have a big cap hit. One year.
The disgruntled player effect is a valid concern but I do not think that you can let that affect your decision. It is a business. The teams and the players have to act accordingly. Teams should be using the tools they have available to put them in the best position to win. Players should be using the tools they have available to maximize their earnings. Rookie contracts, the 5th year option, and the franchise tags (exclusive and non exclusive) are the teams best tools. I love Parsons and he is a fantastic player but giving him a record setting guaranteed contract after 3 years is not how you build a winning football program.
 

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And hey, that might be around the time they move on from Dak.
You could very be right. I can see them extending him another 3-4 years max which would be around 2027. But we may be better of getting Parsons signed ASAP, like next year if we can ( it will be the first year he can sign a new deal ). The reason I say this is according to Stephen the LBer position has more injuries than any other position. This is Parsons 3rd year, we could force him to play 3 more years ( 4th rookie, 5th-year option, and tag one year ) before giving him a 2nd contract. But, that's more 3 years of wear and tear. You have ask yourself .....are you willing to make him the highest-paid defensive player with 6 years of wear and tear VS sign him next year and being prepared to move on after 3-4 more years.
 

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The disgruntled player effect is a valid concern but I do not think that you can let that affect your decision. It is a business. The teams and the players have to act accordingly. Teams should be using the tools they have available to put them in the best position to win. Players should be using the tools they have available to maximize their earnings. Rookie contracts, the 5th year option, and the franchise tags (exclusive and non exclusive) are the teams best tools. I love Parsons and he is a fantastic player but giving him a record setting guaranteed contract after 3 years is not how you build a winning football program.
Agreed. But you have to understand that this does not work in all cases. Just in most cases. A good example is Byron Jones. It's not going to work in every situation the exact same way. It will most likely end the way the Khalil Mack situation ended. With Parsons being traded to a different team.
 

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LOL call Parsons whatever you want. He's probably going to be the highest paid defensive player in the league.
I have no doubt that he will be. He will be rewarded after next year with a record setting deal. He will make more than any other defensive player and he will deserve it. Will it translate into prime time games and jersey sales for Dallas you bet. Will it translate into team success? I would say that the odds are not in your favor.
 

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You could very be right. I can see them extending him another 3-4 years max which would be around 2027. But we may be better of getting Parsons signed ASAP, like next year if we can ( it will be the first year he can sign a new deal ). The reason I say this is according to Stephen the LBer position has more injuries than any other position. This is Parsons 3rd year, we could force him to play 3 more years ( 4th rookie, 5th-year option, and tag one year ) before giving him a 2nd contract. But, that's more 3 years of wear and tear. You have ask yourself .....are you willing to make him the highest-paid defensive player with 6 years of wear and tear VS sign him next year and being prepared to move on after 3-4 more years.
Better to sign him after this year. Not play games with one of the best defensive players we've seen in a long time. The reason I say this is by 2027 the cap will be way higher than it is today, and his big cap hit won't be that big anymore. Extend him as soon as possible.
 

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giving him a record setting guaranteed contract after 3 years is not how you build a winning football program.
We see this differently.......IMO it's exactly the time to give him the contract, immediately following his 3rd-year coz there's a chance he only has 3-5 good years left, providing he stays healthy ( that's another challenge itself as a LBer ). This way we could move on after his 5th/6th year.
 

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Better to sign him after this year. Not play games with one of the best defensive players we've seen in a long time. The reason I say this is by 2027 the cap will be way higher than it is today, and his big cap hit won't be that big anymore. Extend him as soon as possible.
No question.....many reasons
 

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Agreed. But you have to understand that this does not work in all cases. Just in most cases. A good example is Byron Jones. It's not going to work in every situation the exact same way. It will most likely end the way the Khalil Mack situation ended. With Parsons being traded to a different team.
This is true. I guess I feel like you need to be willing to take that chance. IMHO there is much less risk this way. If the player continues to play good then you just got their 6 best years for a great price. They become a free agent and you can still sign them if you want. If the player forces you to trade them there is always a team that will give you market value. The draft picks the Raiders got were well worth it plus they save the salary cap space for additional players. The risk in paying the player early is massive. The team loses any advantage or control they had. It can work out but there are countless times this does not work out well for the team.
 

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I realize this is a pretty abstract concept but a player on a team friendly deal is a positive force in the pursuit of winning football. The exact same player on a player friendly deal is a negative force in the pursuit of wining football. I did not create the system but I am willing to accept the reality of it. I want the Dallas Cowboys to win and as such when it comes to contracts I want every Dallas Cowboy player to lose.

I have said this before and I know that it falls on deaf ears but I will repeat it again. Lets say Parsons is given the largest defensive contract in the NFL. That means he has to be the defensive player of the year just to become net neutral in terms of his contribution to winning.
 

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This is true. I guess I feel like you need to be willing to take that chance. IMHO there is much less risk this way. If the player continues to play good then you just got their 6 best years for a great price. They become a free agent and you can still sign them if you want. If the player forces you to trade them there is always a team that will give you market value. The draft picks the Raiders got were well worth it plus they save the salary cap space for additional players. The risk in paying the player early is massive. The team loses any advantage or control they had. It can work out but there are countless times this does not work out well for the team.
I agree with you. Trust me. I see your point. It just gets complicated when we're dealing with generational talents. Besides that, I think they can structure a contract that wouldn't be so different than letting him play out the contract and 5th year option. I've seen it before. As I've mentioned, Zeke is one of them. Why bother risking the disgruntled player?
 
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