Parsons next contract

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I've never seen a player decline a early contract that's at market value. Top market contracts are already design for the added increase in future contracts. That's why they are so high and beat one another. Sometimes it's better to sign early than risk injury. It benefits the team and players. And the agents and players know that.
Youve never seen a player not sign early? dak signed early?
 

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Youve never seen a player not sign early? dak signed early?

He was never offered a contract early from my knowledge. Guys like Dak and Parsons should've been lock up earlier in their rookie contract phase. The FO place a franchise tag on Dak and he broke his ankle. By the time Dak was offered a contract, he was going for 40M. If they sign him earlier the same year Wentz sign in 2019 he would've been in the 30-32M range.
 

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He was never offered a contract early from my knowledge. Guys like Dak and Parsons should've been lock up earlier in their rookie contract phase. The FO place a franchise tag on Dak and he broke his ankle. By the time Dak was offered a contract, he was going for 40M. If they sign him earlier the same year Wentz sign in 2019 he would've been in the 30-32M range.
They didn't sign Dak early because they were unsure about him.

Parsons can't be locked up earlier. The soonest he can get an extension is after this upcoming season.
 

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Barring injury parsons next contract(s) will be worth every penny
 

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He is gonna set the market ........ and he will deserve it.
Just my opinion, but no way he sets the market as a pass rusher until he leads the league in sacks. He needs to have a much better year this year than last year. Watt gets doubled all the time and doesn’t get stopped. Parsons needs to do more than rely on his physical ability. He needs to develop a tool box of moves with moves to counter the OL moves. I’m not saying he isn’t working on that as I have no clue what he does in practice, but a player who relies only on his physical superiority doesn’t usually keep getting better.
 

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Good point, it's certainly the cheapest option, just wonder how peeved Micah would be. However, every team needs to be built around a base of top players and Micah is the type of player that has the ...."follow me", type of leadership, which tends to elevate the whole roster.


Yep, there's no cheap Early Bird Discount
Yes. I don’t see Parsons signing on a discount. If he stays healthy and stays on task he is probably going to set the market value.

You either hit him with two tags and let him walk. Wreck your cap by resigning him. Or trade him for value.

The non exclusive tag might be the cheapest way to go. You will find out in a hurry if teams will pay him and give away two first round picks. The Cowboys retain the right to match so going that route has its positives.
 

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Just my opinion, but no way he sets the market as a pass rusher until he leads the league in sacks. He needs to have a much better year this year than last year. Watt gets doubled all the time and doesn’t get stopped. Parsons needs to do more than rely on his physical ability. He needs to develop a tool box of moves with moves to counter the OL moves. I’m not saying he isn’t working on that as I have no clue what he does in practice, but a player who relies only on his physical superiority doesn’t usually keep getting better.
He is gonna set the market as a playmaker.
 

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Contracts are beginning to reach a point to where if you sign an elite player then you can't afford to build a championship team.

Somebody has to put an end to this madness and create a system where there isn't so much disparity between the top 5% of the league and the rest of the players.

The league average for player salaries next sason is around 3.8 million. I can see the really good players making double that with the elite players making triple. I don't see how the majority of NFL players would object since it would raise their salaries significantly.
 

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Barring injury parsons next contract(s) will be worth every penny
His current deal, 4 years 17 million.

Jerry will use the 5th year option.

Micah’s body will have a lot of miles on it by then. 8(
 

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Contracts are beginning to reach a point to where if you sign an elite player then you can't afford to build a championship team.

Somebody has to put an end to this madness and create a system where there isn't so much disparity between the top 5% of the league and the rest of the players.

The league average for player salaries next sason is around 3.8 million. I can see the really good players making double that with the elite players making triple. I don't see how the majority of NFL players would object since it would raise their salaries significantly.
How many owners care if they have a championship team? Because it should sort itself out. Between teams that can afford, and teams that cannot afford a player. Someone has to win the championship. Those championship winning teams usually have some elite players.
 

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His current deal, 4 years 17 million.

Jerry will use the 5th year option.

Micah’s body will have a lot of miles on it by then. 8(
The 5th year option isn't even in doubt. They'll pick that up whether or not they extend him. The question is whether or not he has an extension while on his 5th year option. We don't know if they're going to extend him or not. The first chance they get is after this upcoming season.
 

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All I know is that Jerry and his mongo kids will screw up this contract…business as usual.
 

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Depends on if he lives up to it by maintaining a high level. We’ve seen several here “retire” after signing the big contract so the fans feelings are justified in some cases.
Agree......and unjustified in some cases too. Can we agree.....no one says a player is outperforming a contract?
 

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He was never offered a contract early from my knowledge. Guys like Dak and Parsons should've been lock up earlier in their rookie contract phase. The FO place a franchise tag on Dak and he broke his ankle. By the time Dak was offered a contract, he was going for 40M. If they sign him earlier the same year Wentz sign in 2019 he would've been in the 30-32M range.
He was offered a contract early comparable to Wentz and he declined, knowing he could force them into paying more later



Notice the date, 2019
 

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He was offered a contract early comparable to Wentz and he declined, knowing he could force them into paying more later



Notice the date, 2019

I've heard this too on multiple occasions. But to turn down a market value contract after your 3rd year just hurts the team. Similar to Lamar Jackson who thinks he's the second coming.
 

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I know a lot here love them some Parsons but I would really shop his trade value to the AFC. Some 3/4 teams might be willing to give up some good picks for him.

I was the same way about Ware and Romo, can the team get more value by trading them when they're playing their best.

However, I am not a player guy, I am a team guy. And I know quite a few are player guys and that's fine, just a different way of following it.

The other issue is will Quinn stay on another season after this one unless he is made the HC? Maybe Quinn goes to the AFC and becomes a suitor for Parsons?

Because the way this is looking, Parsons is going the same way as Ware did, carry too much of the load. Just look at the difference when he went to DEN and could be rotated properly. Parcells wanted to rest and rotate him but every time he was on the sideline, the other offense took advantage.

And Parsons is 13lb's lighter than Ware was. He is going to wear down at DE and off the ball OLB isn't his mojo in the NFL.
 
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I've heard this too on multiple occasions. But to turn down a market value contract after your 3rd year just hurts the team. Similar to Lamar Jackson who thinks he's the second coming.
He's just reading the market and knows the QB's usually get what they want from some team. He also knows what his team looks like with him in and out, just like the Ravens' FO does.

They might be playing a fake with him and end up paying him what he wants and if they do, they need to draft Robinson and put a fearsome run game out there. Defending Jackson and Robinson would be more than a full time job. Do what the Giants did with Jones and Barkley only crank it up a notch.
 

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He's just reading the market and knows the QB's usually get what they want from some team. He also knows what his team looks like with him in and out, just like the Ravens' FO does.

They might be playing a fake with him and end up paying him what he wants and if they do, they need to draft Robinson and put a fearsome run game out there. Defending Jackson and Robinson would be more than a full time job. Do what the Giants did with Jones and Barkley only crank it up a notch.
In all seriousness, what have the Ravens done as a team with Jackson on a rookie deal? They're going to pay him 50M a year and now win a championship? Going that route would be the height of stupidity. Most of these teams just want popularity. It's good for business. Teams like the Rams, Eagles, and a few others are looking to win it all. The new trend in this league will be the RPO running back at quarterback. We're going to see it with the Eagles, Bears, and probably 49ers once Lance is back.
 

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In all seriousness, what have the Ravens done as a team with Jackson on a rookie deal? They're going to pay him 50M a year and now win a championship? Going that route would be the height of stupidity. Most of these teams just want popularity. It's good for business. Teams like the Rams, Eagles, and a few others are looking to win it all. The new trend in this league will be the RPO running back at quarterback. We're going to see it with the Eagles, Bears, and probably 49ers once Lance is back.
The Ravens are locked into that "if not him, who" situation like AZ, DAL and some others have been and Jackson is very popular with the fans.

If you are looking for that RPO running back at QB, who would you rank above Jackson when he's healthy? Fields was impressive but I will still take Jackson as the RB QB.

But this is the way of the NFL now with QB's. It is higher risk with the 2nd contracts than drafting them. And what GM wants to let one walk and take the chance on him shining elsewhere and his replacement fizzling? Resume time.

The GM job is all about get the guy. CHI's GM and HC tried that with Fields but he wasn't going to save their jobs being a rookie on a mediocre team. The QB is the only player the owners want to talk to the GM's about.
 

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The Ravens are locked into that "if not him, who" situation like AZ, DAL and some others have been and Jackson is very popular with the fans.

If you are looking for that RPO running back at QB, who would you rank above Jackson when he's healthy? Fields was impressive but I will still take Jackson as the RB QB.

But this is the way of the NFL now with QB's. It is higher risk with the 2nd contracts than drafting them. And what GM wants to let one walk and take the chance on him shining elsewhere and his replacement fizzling? Resume time.

The GM job is all about get the guy. CHI's GM and HC tried that with Fields but he wasn't going to save their jobs being a rookie on a mediocre team. The QB is the only player the owners want to talk to the GM's about.
Lamar had a shot at a market value contract. He doesn't want that. He wants a Watson type contract. Around 230-250M a year fully guaranteed. He's probably not getting that from anyone. So I don't know what he's going to do. Let's see what Herbert, Burrow, and QBs up for an extension get after the draft.
 
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