Parsons vs Eagles' Hasson Riddick

[quickccc]

Philly signed LB Hasson Reddick as a free agent this offseason , and he gave them 16 sacks in just his first year with the Eagles.
That also led Hasson to be voted to his first Pro Bowl in his NFL career
16 sacks in a single season mark, is more than what Parsons has had in any of his 2 years in the NFL .(13 sacks in each year)

- More so, Riddick recorded 8 sacks in the Eagles six games in both December and January months, so no apparent wear & tear toll for Reddick.

- Parsons however currently has the look of a physical wear- tear pounding, and whether what end, or if up the gut middle,
he does not look to have near the same explosion and strength he had earlier in the year.

- Making it more interesting, Philly plays the 4-3 scheme,(and it's a creative- pressure- front 4-3)
Reddick is listed as 4-3 OLB, but the scheme in which he’s implemented has him blitzing and rushing off the edges or overloads in gaps, than being a full time DE.

- Parsons basically lining up on the edge as a DE than an off ball OLB. Taking on 330+ lbs OTs, on more frequent every down basis, more than he is dealing with TEs.

- Bottom line, i dunno how it is gonna play out with the Cowboys DC role and Dan Quinn next year .. or who will be the new DC,
but maybe the Cowboys need to greatly take a look at Reddick’s role and scheme with the Eagles, and make it more suitable scheme fit
for Parsons as well ?

 

[JonesBoys]

It's amazing what the Eagles did in one off season with free agents and trades. Someone tell cap boy to look at what can be done besides using just the draft.
It's no wonder the defense has struggled the last 6 weeks. Parsons has worn completely down which has a domino effect on the other rushers. Dan Quinn failed in that department misusing him to take on way too many 300 pounders.
I still don't know why they didn't give him a game off against either Tennessee or Washington. If he isn't a fresh Micah Parsons then this defense goes down a few notches and it has shown.

 

[xwalker]

Philly signed LB Hasson Reddick as a free agent this offseason , and he gave them 16 sacks in just his first year with the Eagles.
That also led Hasson to be voted to his first Pro Bowl in his NFL career
16 sacks in a single season mark, is more than what Parsons has had in any of his 2 years in the NFL .(13 sacks in each year)

- More so, Riddick recorded 8 sacks in the Eagles six games in both December and January months, so no apparent wear & tear toll for Reddick.

- Parsons however currently has the look of a physical wear- tear pounding, and whether what end, or if up the gut middle,
he does not look to have near the same explosion and strength he had earlier in the year.

- Making it more interesting, Philly plays the 4-3 scheme,(and it's a creative- pressure- front 4-3)
Reddick is listed as 4-3 OLB, but the scheme in which he’s implemented has him blitzing and rushing off the edges or overloads in gaps, than being a full time DE.

- Parsons basically lining up on the edge as a DE than an off ball OLB. Taking on 330+ lbs OTs, on more frequent every down basis, more than he is dealing with TEs.

- Bottom line, i dunno how it is gonna play out with the Cowboys DC role and Dan Quinn next year .. or who will be the new DC,
but maybe the Cowboys need to greatly take a look at Reddick’s role and scheme with the Eagles, and make it more suitable scheme fit
for Parsons as well ?

 

[StarOfGlory]

Overall, their stats are similar for this year.

Sacks: Reddick, 16, Parsons, 13.5
Solo tackles: Reddick 35, Parsons 42
Forced fumbles: Reddick 5, Parsons 3
Tackle for loss: Reddick 11, Parsons 14
QB hits: Reddick 26, Parsons 27

Salary Breakdown
Reddick: 3 year, $45,000,000 contract with the Philadelphia Eagles, including a $14,215,000 signing bonus, $30,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $15,000,000. In 2023, Reddick will earn a base salary of $1,080,000 and a signing bonus of $14,170,000, while carrying a cap hit of $6,757,000 and a dead cap value of $25,972,000.

Parsons: 4 year, $17,079,793 contract with the Dallas Cowboys, including a $9,781,668 signing bonus, $17,079,793 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $4,269,948. In 2023, Parsons will earn a base salary of $2,212,708, while carrying a cap hit of $4,658,125 and a dead cap value of $10,092,604. (nice rookie deal)

Parsons has more size than Reddick. But given the way Parsons is currently utilized, will he show signs of breaking down before his rookie deal is up?

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

94 is Josh Sweat, a DE. He’s just standing up for the goofy run alignment. Notice all 3 down lineman are DT’s. NO is in a power run package so that’s how we align the 4-3, Sweat is simply sealing the edge on the opposite side

 

[Cowboy_svt]

It's amazing what the Eagles did in one off season with free agents and trades. Someone tell cap boy to look at what can be done besides using just the draft.
It's no wonder the defense has struggled the last 6 weeks. Parsons has worn completely down which has a domino effect on the other rushers. Dan Quinn failed in that department misusing him to take on way too many 300 pounders.
I still don't know why they didn't give him a game off against either Tennessee or Washington. If he isn't a fresh Micah Parsons then this defense goes down a few notches and it has shown.

I really hate it, but i cant help but be jealous at what theyve done at both sides of the ball.

 

[Sydla]

People here said Reddick wasn’t a big signing for them. LOL.

 

[slick325]

Riddick is ballin', no doubt about that. Regarding Parsons, he is still a beast but I think Quinn isn't using him in the same way he used him last season. It doesn't appear that he is being moved around or put at OLB much. The Philly game is the one I recall but that's it. They have made him one dimensional (strictly a DE/Edge guy).

He didn't have a good game in Philly. But, again, I think he was one dimensional that game (strictly a LB). There needs to be some mix that works for him physically and for the overall defense.

Hoping Quinn can find that balance and MOJO when it counts. Now!

 

[cnuball21]

Parsons is led the NFL in pressures and was top 3ish in pass rush win rate. He’s also on an incredibly short list of dudes with with 25+ sacks in their first 2 years and is an ascending player.

Reddick is a great situational pass rusher that took 4 years to figure it out.

 

[blueblood70]

what the point of the picture?

 

[xwalker]

This one shows that there are 3 DL between (inside) the outside shoulders of the OTs.
- That's a 3-4 (odd front) concept even if one of the 2 edge players outside the OTs puts his hand down.

4-3 and 3-4 are outdated terminology.

It should be 3-2-2-4 (DL, edge, off-ball LB, DB).

In the modern era, teams often replace an ILB with a DB but the front 5 still looks like a "3-4": 3-2-1-5

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

This one shows that there are 3 DL between (inside) the outside shoulders of the OTs.
- That's a 3-4 (odd front) concept even if one of the 2 edge players outside the OTs puts his hand down.

4-3 and 3-4 are outdated terminology.

It should be 3-2-2-4 (DL, edge, off-ball LB, DB).

In the modern era, teams often replace an ILB with a DB but the front 5 still looks like a "3-4": 3-2-1-5

So when we were running a wide 9, where the DE’s were way outside, you’d classify that as a…. 2-5?

 

[blueblood70]

so what the point of this thread? too many really its being overblown as to his decline.. other videos prove that out, hes still getting pressure and effecting games...

Ill take younger cheaper player of close to equal production still learning the game and upside then high priced FA... so really there's no true comparison, its a wash when you compare their $$$$$

Maybe 33 develops next year and we add a FA or maybe another true off the ball LB in the draft to further bolster our LB/DE core etc

 

[Daillest88]

I love Reddicks game. Would be awesome on the other side of parsons.. parsons takes way more double teams than Reddick does, They got him on a great deal. Hate to say it

 

[xwalker]

Philly signed LB Hasson Reddick as a free agent this offseason , and he gave them 16 sacks in just his first year with the Eagles.
That also led Hasson to be voted to his first Pro Bowl in his NFL career
16 sacks in a single season mark, is more than what Parsons has had in any of his 2 years in the NFL .(13 sacks in each year)

- More so, Riddick recorded 8 sacks in the Eagles six games in both December and January months, so no apparent wear & tear toll for Reddick.

- Parsons however currently has the look of a physical wear- tear pounding, and whether what end, or if up the gut middle,
he does not look to have near the same explosion and strength he had earlier in the year.

- Making it more interesting, Philly plays the 4-3 scheme,(and it's a creative- pressure- front 4-3)
Reddick is listed as 4-3 OLB, but the scheme in which he’s implemented has him blitzing and rushing off the edges or overloads in gaps, than being a full time DE.

- Parsons basically lining up on the edge as a DE than an off ball OLB. Taking on 330+ lbs OTs, on more frequent every down basis, more than he is dealing with TEs.

- Bottom line, i dunno how it is gonna play out with the Cowboys DC role and Dan Quinn next year .. or who will be the new DC,
but maybe the Cowboys need to greatly take a look at Reddick’s role and scheme with the Eagles, and make it more suitable scheme fit
for Parsons as well ?

QB Hits (2022)
Parsons 27
Reddick 26

QB KnockDowns
Parsons 14
Reddick 10

 

[xwalker]

So when we were running a wide 9, where the DE’s were way outside, you’d classify that as a…. 2-5?

2-2-2-5 or 2-2-3-4

 

[cnuball21]

We should also make note that Parsons experiences double teams approximately 30% of the time while Reddick does at 10% of the time and Parsons still has a higher pass rush win rate.


This is case and point why you can’t look at 1 stat like sacks to compare players.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

2-2-2-5 or 2-2-3-4

4-3 vs 3-4 formations have never been about requirements in alignment. Why is a CB a CB? Because he guards a WR, whether in man or Zone. He can chase him, or smother him, or engage him on a run play. If the WR suddenly lines up on the line of scrimmage, and the CB guards him on the inside, putting him in your box, is he now a Dlineman? No. Is he a LB? No, because that has nothing to do with it.

What dictates a 3-4 vs a 4-3 is how many linebackers vs down lineman you choose to have on the field. That’s it. When Reddick lines up in an upright technique on the edge, he could be pass rushing. Or he could be playing Joker and spying the QB if its a dude who’s a run threat. Or he could be playing zone on his side of the boundary. Or he could be preparing to engage the RB in man coverage. That is what makes him a linebacker.

When Josh Sweat lines up in the upright position, he is typically doing none of those other things. He is exclusively playing the run and rushing the passer. He is a 4th lineman, regardless of whether he lines up outside of your box, or at the nose, or next to the out of bounds line. Philadelphia plays a 4-3 personnel most of the time, Albeit sometimes in an irregular alignment as per your picture.

 

[zeroburrito]

reddick is currently better, but who knows next season?

 

[mldardy]

Philly signed LB Hasson Reddick as a free agent this offseason , and he gave them 16 sacks in just his first year with the Eagles.
That also led Hasson to be voted to his first Pro Bowl in his NFL career
16 sacks in a single season mark, is more than what Parsons has had in any of his 2 years in the NFL .(13 sacks in each year)

- More so, Riddick recorded 8 sacks in the Eagles six games in both December and January months, so no apparent wear & tear toll for Reddick.

- Parsons however currently has the look of a physical wear- tear pounding, and whether what end, or if up the gut middle,
he does not look to have near the same explosion and strength he had earlier in the year.

- Making it more interesting, Philly plays the 4-3 scheme,(and it's a creative- pressure- front 4-3)
Reddick is listed as 4-3 OLB, but the scheme in which he’s implemented has him blitzing and rushing off the edges or overloads in gaps, than being a full time DE.

- Parsons basically lining up on the edge as a DE than an off ball OLB. Taking on 330+ lbs OTs, on more frequent every down basis, more than he is dealing with TEs.

- Bottom line, i dunno how it is gonna play out with the Cowboys DC role and Dan Quinn next year .. or who will be the new DC,
but maybe the Cowboys need to greatly take a look at Reddick’s role and scheme with the Eagles, and make it more suitable scheme fit
for Parsons as well ?

Who cares about sacks. Yall act like sacks is the end all be all measuring stick of a defensive lineman or linebacker. Parsons impact on the field outweighs how many sacks he gets. He is constantly putting pressure on the QB to get rid of the ball quicker than normal and making the QB throw the ball off balance or get outside of the pocket. That pressure also allows our other defensive players to get a sack and get pressure. That is the impact he has. Not to mention the overwhelming number of times he's held without getting that call.