Parsons vs Eagles' Hasson Riddick

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

Lol, and the 3 players mentioned were already on the team, and are currently not for next year at a cap hit of 29m. This is how you manage a team if you have a childish need for instant gratification and it was the last year there will be football! Look at the Rams, last year he was toast of the town. He’s now contemplating quitting and 80% of the fan base want to tar and feather him. Oh, and sure they can manipulate them by resigning Cox 32, and Graham 35, Hargrave is going to be looking for big money. That just pushes the issue down the line!

I can't tell....are you using what the Rams did as a cautionary tale against their cap practices?

I'm assuming not...and I'm just misinterpreting.... because, like, win a SuperBowl 1 year, not be good the next, would be something most teams would take in a heartbeat (except maybe the Pats in their golden age).

 

[Vanilla2]

I really hate it, but i cant help but be jealous at what theyve done at both sides of the ball.

Eagle fan

 

[mldardy]

Come contract negotiation time .. it is.

- How do you think DLaw got his first big money contract when he re-signed a 5 year- 105 million..?
He backed and based it with two double digit sack seasons.

- Robert Quinn had 11 sacks his final year with the Cowboys, ..and that led to a 5 year 70 million contract with the Bears.

You act like Micah doesn't have double digit sacks. He's going to get paid because he's doing just that and making Pro Bowls and All Pros which Quinn and DLaw rarely did. Otherwise I don't get your point.

 

[Cowboys1966]

94 is Josh Sweat, a DE. He’s just standing up for the goofy run alignment. Notice all 3 down lineman are DT’s. NO is in a power run package so that’s how we align the 4-3, Sweat is simply sealing the edge on the opposite side

Looks like more of a 5-2

 

[Blue&Silver]

Parsons is led the NFL in pressures and was top 3ish in pass rush win rate. He’s also on an incredibly short list of dudes with with 25+ sacks in their first 2 years and is an ascending player.

Reddick is a great situational pass rusher that took 4 years to figure it out.

Reddick isn't a situational pass rusher, and doesn't rush the passer as much as Parsons. The Eagles defender is very good for his size in coverage. That's a part of his game I don't see being emphasized in this thread. Parsons when his rookie contract is up will get way more than Reddick is currently getting. Way more. Parsons plays more because his contribution is needed more whereas the Eagles have more depth. Parsons on this Eagles would be wow.

 

[Cowboys0988]

It's amazing what the Eagles did in one off season with free agents and trades. Someone tell cap boy to look at what can be done besides using just the draft.
It's no wonder the defense has struggled the last 6 weeks. Parsons has worn completely down which has a domino effect on the other rushers. Dan Quinn failed in that department misusing him to take on way too many 300 pounders.
I still don't know why they didn't give him a game off against either Tennessee or Washington. If he isn't a fresh Micah Parsons then this defense goes down a few notches and it has shown.

Wait till next year after the Eagles get 2 first round picks in this draft, Hurts on a rookie deal still. Eagles are filthy loaded... and it truly hurts me to say that. Theres no team I hate more than the Eagles.. An Eagles loss and a Cowboys win is 1a and 1b.
Past years every Monday, after an Eagles loss, I like to check out Igglephans forum and read the meltdown threads..Unfortunately, Ive only been on that site like 2 times this entire season...... Until they gotta give Hurts Dak type money, Im afraid I wont get the pleasure of reading meltdown threads very often.

They truly are a stacked team on both sides of the ball. I think they are the best team in the NFL...Them or the 49ers. Its close. But I expect the Eagles will be getting better after the draft this year.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

reddick is currently better, but who knows next season?

Where do you people come from?

 

[Cowboys0988]

Imagine if Parsons actually had good DT’s helping him out like Reddick does.

Exactly Phillys Dline is stout... Every dude is playing at a probowl level... Hard to scheme against 1 dude when 3 others will beat you. Where Parsons is schemed on every play of every game..unless hes left alone cause the tackles pulling fora run to the opposite side, but that dont count.

 

[exciter]

Yes because the last 27 years have been great for us … you know what i would take that cap hill for instant gratification if it gives us a chance to win something for once besides a division title in a weak division ( before this year)

So you’d rather be the Raiders and Browns? Philly hasn’t won Jack yet. As stated Hargrove, Cox and Graham are FAs and will count 29m against their cap. Sanders and Scott are FAs, Seamalo and Kelce are FAs, Bradberry, Gardner-Johnson, Epps are FA, Kyzer White is a FA. That’s 3 of 4 starting DL, 2 of 4 starting secondary, a starting LB, 2 of 5 OL, and their top 2 RBs. And chances are good, if they do win it, Hurts agent (unless he’s a moron) will have him hold out for a new contract. They might want to hope that top 10 pick can play 6 positions!

 

[Coogiguy03]

Philly signed LB Hasson Reddick as a free agent this offseason , and he gave them 16 sacks in just his first year with the Eagles.
That also led Hasson to be voted to his first Pro Bowl in his NFL career
16 sacks in a single season mark, is more than what Parsons has had in any of his 2 years in the NFL .(13 sacks in each year)

- More so, Riddick recorded 8 sacks in the Eagles six games in both December and January months, so no apparent wear & tear toll for Reddick.

- Parsons however currently has the look of a physical wear- tear pounding, and whether what end, or if up the gut middle,
he does not look to have near the same explosion and strength he had earlier in the year.

- Making it more interesting, Philly plays the 4-3 scheme,(and it's a creative- pressure- front 4-3)
Reddick is listed as 4-3 OLB, but the scheme in which he’s implemented has him blitzing and rushing off the edges or overloads in gaps, than being a full time DE.

- Parsons basically lining up on the edge as a DE than an off ball OLB. Taking on 330+ lbs OTs, on more frequent every down basis, more than he is dealing with TEs.

- Bottom line, i dunno how it is gonna play out with the Cowboys DC role and Dan Quinn next year .. or who will be the new DC,
but maybe the Cowboys need to greatly take a look at Reddick’s role and scheme with the Eagles, and make it more suitable scheme fit
for Parsons as well ?

Bottom line is he's better at Micah at getting to the QB!!

 

[Cowboyny]

Philly signed LB Hasson Reddick as a free agent this offseason , and he gave them 16 sacks in just his first year with the Eagles.
That also led Hasson to be voted to his first Pro Bowl in his NFL career
16 sacks in a single season mark, is more than what Parsons has had in any of his 2 years in the NFL .(13 sacks in each year)

- More so, Riddick recorded 8 sacks in the Eagles six games in both December and January months, so no apparent wear & tear toll for Reddick.

- Parsons however currently has the look of a physical wear- tear pounding, and whether what end, or if up the gut middle,
he does not look to have near the same explosion and strength he had earlier in the year.

- Making it more interesting, Philly plays the 4-3 scheme,(and it's a creative- pressure- front 4-3)
Reddick is listed as 4-3 OLB, but the scheme in which he’s implemented has him blitzing and rushing off the edges or overloads in gaps, than being a full time DE.

- Parsons basically lining up on the edge as a DE than an off ball OLB. Taking on 330+ lbs OTs, on more frequent every down basis, more than he is dealing with TEs.

- Bottom line, i dunno how it is gonna play out with the Cowboys DC role and Dan Quinn next year .. or who will be the new DC,
but maybe the Cowboys need to greatly take a look at Reddick’s role and scheme with the Eagles, and make it more suitable scheme fit
for Parsons as well ?

Don't think it's an apples to apples comparison as the Eagles have far better defensive line personnel, especially inside. Also, their secondary is rated the best this season.

If it's Quinn or his replacement, they have the task of finding the best ways to use Parsons, without getting him so beaten up/worn down. He has posted similar sacks this year compared to his rookie campaign when he played more linebacker. I think that is probably the best way to use him, pick your spots and don't force him to take on huge tackles on every snap.

 

[Whirlwin]

Overall, their stats are similar for this year.

Sacks: Reddick, 16, Parsons, 13.5
Solo tackles: Reddick 35, Parsons 42
Forced fumbles: Reddick 5, Parsons 3
Tackle for loss: Reddick 11, Parsons 14
QB hits: Reddick 26, Parsons 27

Salary Breakdown
Reddick: 3 year, $45,000,000 contract with the Philadelphia Eagles, including a $14,215,000 signing bonus, $30,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $15,000,000. In 2023, Reddick will earn a base salary of $1,080,000 and a signing bonus of $14,170,000, while carrying a cap hit of $6,757,000 and a dead cap value of $25,972,000.

Parsons: 4 year, $17,079,793 contract with the Dallas Cowboys, including a $9,781,668 signing bonus, $17,079,793 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $4,269,948. In 2023, Parsons will earn a base salary of $2,212,708, while carrying a cap hit of $4,658,125 and a dead cap value of $10,092,604. (nice rookie deal)

Parsons has more size than Reddick. But given the way Parsons is currently utilized, will he show signs of breaking down before his rookie deal is up?

You have to talk about the rest of the line it’s not an individual. Everyone and everything has to work together. Philly has the better line overall.

 

[Whirlwin]

Bottom line is he's better at Micah at getting to the QB!!

No, that’s not the bottom line. The bottom line is the rest of the pieces that help you get to the quarterback that’s the bottom line teamwork. People keep wanting to make this an individual accomplishment.

 

[quickccc]

You act like Micah doesn't have double digit sacks. He's going to get paid because he's doing just that and making Pro Bowls and All Pros which Quinn and DLaw rarely did. Otherwise I don't get your point.

You act like you're somehow confusing yourself. That's probably why you're not getting my point.
None of my comments and viewpoint discussion suggests Parsons will Not get paid when the contract time comes.

 

[darthseinfeld]

People here said Reddick wasn’t a big signing for them. LOL.

I dont recall that. I remember seeing alot of people we wish we made that deal

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Overall, their stats are similar for this year.

Sacks: Reddick, 16, Parsons, 13.5
Solo tackles: Reddick 35, Parsons 42
Forced fumbles: Reddick 5, Parsons 3
Tackle for loss: Reddick 11, Parsons 14
QB hits: Reddick 26, Parsons 27

Salary Breakdown
Reddick: 3 year, $45,000,000 contract with the Philadelphia Eagles, including a $14,215,000 signing bonus, $30,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $15,000,000. In 2023, Reddick will earn a base salary of $1,080,000 and a signing bonus of $14,170,000, while carrying a cap hit of $6,757,000 and a dead cap value of $25,972,000.

Parsons: 4 year, $17,079,793 contract with the Dallas Cowboys, including a $9,781,668 signing bonus, $17,079,793 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $4,269,948. In 2023, Parsons will earn a base salary of $2,212,708, while carrying a cap hit of $4,658,125 and a dead cap value of $10,092,604. (nice rookie deal)

Parsons has more size than Reddick. But given the way Parsons is currently utilized, will he show signs of breaking down before his rookie deal is up?

Those are Parsons 2021 stats.

 

[Cowboys93]

Philly just knocked it out of the freaking park last off-season and I certainly recognized it. I just thought Hurts would hold the team back but I was dead wrong. Howie Roseman deserves GM of the year and saying that makes me sick.

Absolutely. Even more so on a macro scale, to get from under Wentz’s abysmal deal (and profit from it incredibly), do a slight rebuild, to looking like perennial contenders for the next few years is impressive. I know they’d never in a million years let him go, but I’d take Howie as our GM if I had one wish for any type of coach/FO piece.

 

[Denim Chicken]

helps your edges when you have good DTs.

Parsons has been doing what he's been doing with less help.

 

[Coogiguy03]

No, that’s not the bottom line. The bottom line is the rest of the pieces that help you get to the quarterback that’s the bottom line teamwork. People keep wanting to make this an individual accomplishment.

He is suck it up!

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Philly has 3 other players on that team with at least 10 sacks..... With that kind of production teams aren't only focused on Riddick.

Where is 2 other players on Dallas with 10 plus sacks? Teams scheme just for Parsons but yet he has some better production in a few categories over Riddick.