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ABQCOWBOY;1287500 said:
Well, I would not call him an accomplished WR by any means but it's like anything, you gotta work on it and then you have to have opportunities. I mean, it's not like he can't catch the ball. In his rookie year, he caught 17 passes in 8 games. Last year he caught 35 in 13. This year, 9 catches in a 16 game schedule. We just plain have not been using this part of our offense. Have no idea why.

Part of the reason is that the down field passes have been there. That is why Romo has a high YPA. The receivers are mostly open and he completes a high percentage of passes. It is the games that Dallas lost to the Saints and Philly where the backs were underutilized as runners and receivers. The stiffer the competition, the more every weapon has to be used. That is playoff football and the Saints and Eagles games were basically playoff type games.
 

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joseephuss;1287650 said:
Part of the reason is that the down field passes have been there. That is why Romo has a YPA. The receivers are mostly open and he completes a high percentage of passes. It is the games that Dallas lost to the Saints and Philly where the backs were underutilized as runners and receivers. The stiffer the competition, the more every weapon has to be used. That is playoff football and the Saints and Eagles games were basically playoff type games.

That makes sense. I do hope we add the plays to the RBs now though.
 

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joseephuss;1287650 said:
Part of the reason is that the down field passes have been there. That is why Romo has a YPA. The receivers are mostly open and he completes a high percentage of passes. It is the games that Dallas lost to the Saints and Philly where the backs were underutilized as runners and receivers. The stiffer the competition, the more every weapon has to be used. That is playoff football and the Saints and Eagles games were basically playoff type games.

That's possible but I'll tell ya, even prior to Romo, we only had a total of 12 catches between the two backs. It's like we just forgot about that part of our offense. Tell ya something else, Payton saw that. We could have killed those guys had we used our backs in the passing game against them. To me, it's just good offense to throw to your backs. Even if you have guys running open downfield all day, you still have to throw to your backs. It keeps the defense honest. Also insures that the team you play next week doesn't just go hog wild on you and start Blitzing you off the bus....*cough - cough*........... *Eagles*........... cough - coug...........

Anyway, I hope we find that part of our offense again. Really need those backs to execute the catches and be involved in that phase of the game IMO.
 

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JPM;1286542 said:
I said the same thing in another thread, only I asked for Jones to get a swing pass here and there, take advantage of his speed.

yes, more screen passes to Julius would be nice, they've been pretty effective this year, don't know why we use them so sparingly, esp. when Kosier's biggest strength is pulling, and blocking in the 2nd level
 

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Passing to backs?

Another reason why our offensive play calling has been atrocious.
 

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summerisfunner;1287745 said:
yes, more screen passes to Julius would be nice, they've been pretty effective this year, don't know why we use them so sparingly, esp. when Kosier's biggest strength is pulling, and blocking in the 2nd level


The way teams have been blitzing us, I think that even just a straight called route to one of the backs would be effective. A simple flair to the blitz side with a TE slipping behind the vacated safety would work great IMO. What do I know. Not a whole lot when you look right at it I guess.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1287756 said:
The way teams have been blitzing us, I think that even just a straight called route to one of the backs would be effective. A simple flair to the blitz side with a TE slipping behind the vacated safety would work great IMO. What do I know. Not a whole lot when you look right at it I guess.

I concur

and you know nadda! :p: :D
 

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YoMick;1286676 said:
Quite honestly I dont care which RB gets it... as long as it works.... difference is.... MB3 will bang(notice my exploding balls) and roll..... JJ will run into piles and tacklers...

Well MB3 runs into tacklers...its just they bounce off of him
 

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summerisfunner;1287781 said:
you're too smart for your own good ;)

:laugh2:


Could be. Anyway, time for me to hit the road. Take it easy fellas.
 

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It is just so strange. A couple of years ago, Parcells was talking about how he like versatile backs that could catch. It was the reason he liked Ritchie Anderson so much and preferred that type of full back over the Oliver Hoyte type of back. It gave the offense more options. I wasn't the biggest Anderson fan, but I think his presence or a back similar to him could calm the offense down.
 

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The problem is that the backs are open most of the time but Romo is always looking downfield lately. He just spent too much time learning from Bledsoe. I think we need to throw to the RBs just to get his confidence back and loosen up the defense. Short passes to the RB is the same as pounding the ball because you get smaller chunks of yards.
 

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dallasfaniac;1287802 said:
The problem is that the backs are open most of the time but Romo is always looking downfield lately. He just spent too much time learning from Bledsoe. I think we need to throw to the RBs just to get his confidence back and loosen up the defense. Short passes to the RB is the same as pounding the ball because you get smaller chunks of yards.

No the probelm is the OLine is unreliable and we are keeping our backs in the backfield to block someone.
 

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joseephuss;1287801 said:
It is just so strange. A couple of years ago, Parcells was talking about how he like versatile backs that could catch. It was the reason he liked Ritchie Anderson so much and preferred that type of full back over the Oliver Hoyte type of back. It gave the offense more options. I wasn't the biggest Anderson fan, but I think his presence or a back similar to him could calm the offense down.

That's why I want to bring in Brian Leonard. He's our Ritchie Anderson/Mike Alstott back right there. Pull that trigger Parcells.....if you are still here.
 

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smarta5150;1287805 said:
No the probelm is the OLine is unreliable and we are keeping our backs in the backfield to block someone.

Funny, the tape shows differently. Sure they stay in to block, but not every down. When they do go out, they never seem to be on the radar.
 

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dallasfaniac;1287813 said:
Funny, the tape shows differently. Sure they stay in to block, but not every down. When they do go out, they never seem to be on the radar.

Allot of that is Romo ALWAYS looking for the big play rather than the check down. That's a habit he will have to break. There is a fine line there and Romo is just a hair off that line.
 

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Dave_in-NC;1287858 said:
Allot of that is Romo ALWAYS looking for the big play rather than the check down. That's a habit he will have to break. There is a fine line there and Romo is just a hair off that line.

:hammer: I didn't see it like that, but you're right
 

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Dave_in-NC;1287858 said:
Allot of that is Romo ALWAYS looking for the big play rather than the check down. That's a habit he will have to break. There is a fine line there and Romo is just a hair off that line.

Romo actually is excellent at looking at all the receivers.

This is 1 of the bigger plusses of his skills.

Everyone has praised him for how much his head and eyes are searching downfield and looking at all possible receivers.

Must we look at the stats on how he spreads the ball around?

The RBs arent getting catches because they arent leaving the backfield as often as other backs around the league.

And as for that guy who said the tapes show different is watching different tapes.
 

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Dave_in-NC;1287858 said:
Allot of that is Romo ALWAYS looking for the big play rather than the check down. That's a habit he will have to break. There is a fine line there and Romo is just a hair off that line.

Agreed. Maybe we just need to start the game with him throwing short passes to rein his eyes in a bit.
 
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