passes to the backs

[Dave_in-NC]

He must have learned this from Bledsoe

Nope. VT

 

[AdamJT13]

With Bledsoe (5.5 games)

JJ - 3 catches in 6 games.
MBIII - 6 catches in 6 games.

With Romo (10.5 games and 2 passes vs HOU)

JJ - 6
MBIII - 17

So Romo is getting the ball to the RBs more (Bledsoe was on a lower pace than Romo's final numbers).

This is our scheme.

Bledsoe's percentages of attempts and completions to running backs were higher than Romo's. But Bledsoe's percentages were near the bottom of the league, too.

 

[smarta5150]

Bledsoe's percentages of attempts and completions to running backs were higher than Romo's. But Bledsoe's percentages were near the bottom of the league, too.

I should have just asked you for the numbers

I think the 2nd part of your statment really shows how little we pass to our RBs. I dont blame this on our QBs but the coaching. I do think that the OLine has put our coaches into the position since they havent blocked consistently well all season.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

I should have just asked you for the numbers

I think the 2nd part of your statment really shows how little we pass to our RBs. I dont blame this on our QBs but the coaching. I do think that the OLine has put our coaches into the position since they havent blocked consistently well all season.

There's always a saftey valve. Hey Adam, is there a stat for throw aways?
I would like to see how many balls Romo has just thrown away.
Thnx

 

[Bob Sacamano]

it's not the scheme, no scheme asks the QB to not check down to RBs

afterall, it's called a 'checkdown' for a reason, meaning going through your progressions, and if nothing else is there, you dump off to your RBs, which ROmo isn't doing, that's his fault, noone else's, and it stems from his aggressiveness, along w/ compounding factors such as being behind in games, which further enhances his need to be aggressive, and lack of a running game, but checking down to the RBs is up to the QB alone, which Romo refuses to do, as he's holding onto the football, looking for a big play, notice his passes down the field are predominantly more than his passes to RBs, because down field is where Romo is leaning towards, his high interception per pass attempt ratio is also an indicator of such ie. forcing the issue

if you can't see this, then there's no use carrying this conversation any further

 

[Dave_in-NC]

it's not the scheme, no scheme asks the QB to not check down to RBs

afterall, it's called a 'checkdown' for a reason, meaning going through your progressions, and if nothing else is there, you dump off to your RBs, which ROmo isn't doing, that's his fault, noone else's, and it stems from his aggressiveness, along w/ compounding factors such as being behind in games, which further enhances his need to be aggressive, and lack of a running game, but checking down to the RBs is up to the QB alone, which Romo refuses to do, as he's holding onto the football, looking for a big play, notice his passes down the field are predominantly more than his passes to RBs, because down field is where Romo is leaning towards, his high interception per pass attempt ratio is also an indicator of such ie. forcing the issue

if you can't see this, then there's no use carrying this conversation any further

 

[smarta5150]

There's always a saftey valve. Hey Adam, is there a stat for throw aways?
I would like to see how many balls Romo has just thrown away.
Thnx

I know he isnt a rookie but this has been his 1st real regular season experience.

Little things like taking sacks and throwing the ball away comes in time with real game experience.

He wasnt taking sacks earlier in the year and now he has.

So give throwing the ball away some time.

 

[smarta5150]

it's not the scheme, no scheme asks the QB to not check down to RBs

afterall, it's called a 'checkdown' for a reason, meaning going through your progressions, and if nothing else is there, you dump off to your RBs, which ROmo isn't doing, that's his fault, noone else's, and it stems from his aggressiveness, along w/ compounding factors such as being behind in games, which further enhances his need to be aggressive, and lack of a running game, but checking down to the RBs is up to the QB alone, which Romo refuses to do, as he's holding onto the football, looking for a big play, notice his passes down the field are predominantly more than his passes to RBs, because down field is where Romo is leaning towards, his high interception per pass attempt ratio is also an indicator of such ie. forcing the issue

if you can't see this, then there's no use carrying this conversation any further

Romo is 2nd in the league in completion percentage so who cares where he is throwing the ball.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Romo is 2nd in the league in completion percentage so who cares where he is throwing the ball.

but in relation to what thread we are in...

 

[smarta5150]

but in relation to what thread we are in...

You are the one saying "checkdowns."

A checkdown is the option to use when no one else is open.

If Romo has the 2nd highest completion % AND we are the last team in RB receptions then we obviously dont run designed pass plays to the RB.

What arent you people getting?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

You are the one saying "checkdowns."

A checkdown is the option to use when no one else is open.

If Romo has the 2nd highest completion % AND we are the last team in RB receptions then we obviously dont run designed pass plays to the RB.

What arent you people getting?

we're getting that the reason we don't pass to the running backs, the only reason this thread is in existance, is because Romo doesn't look to them when nothing else is open, which leads to forceing the issue, which has led to turnovers, and holding onto the football, which has led to sacks and fumbles

so basically, it's you who's not getting it

 

[smarta5150]

Chinese food here and that takes priority.

Bottom line we dont throw to the RBs because they are being forced into blocking since our line has been inconsistent.

I do not beleive its Romo not checking down or looking at them.

RBs used in checkdown situations theoretically dont even need to get the ball.

They are in place as safety valves.

I just hope we can run the ball more efficiently

talk to you guys later

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Chinese food here and that takes priority.

Bottom line we dont throw to the RBs because they are being forced into blocking since our line has been inconsistent.

I do not beleive its Romo not checking down or looking at them.

RBs used in checkdown situations theoretically dont even need to get the ball.

They are in place as safety valves.

I just hope we can run the ball more efficiently

talk to you guys later

You aint got Parcells cat.... uh never mind.
Cya later.

 

[EveryoneElse]

My first play call of the game would be:

4 wide set, Romo in the shotgun with Barber in the backfield. Fake draw, screen pass to Barber.

Money.

 

[the kid 05]

You are the one saying "checkdowns."

A checkdown is the option to use when no one else is open.

If Romo has the 2nd highest completion % AND we are the last team in RB receptions then we obviously dont run designed pass plays to the RB.

What arent you people getting?

Logic has no place in a fourm...please take it and leave

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

There are two ways to beat the blitz. One is to maximum protect and find a guy down field. The other is to attack the blitz by flooding the coverage and making them pay for there defensive aggression. Both can work but neither will work consistantly. That is why you must be willing to run designed plays that go to the backs against the Blitz or certain cover 2 tendancies. We, of all teams, should understand this. This is exactly what other teams do to us. The Jags and Taylor had 6 catches for 41 yards against us. Westbrook caught 5 for 53 against us. Tiki caught 4 for 32. Betts, Portis and Sellers caught a total of 6 for 48 yards. Bush and Karney caught 11 for 164 and 3 TDs against us. Cason and Harris of Detroit had 6 for 56. What do all these teams have in commen? They all beat us this season.

In fact, the only team that didn't use the backs to great advantage against us were the Eagles the second time around. Why? Because they used them the first time and this time, we tried to take them away and they took advantage of it by using the TEs. Killed us with them.

If anybody, we should understand how RBs can be effective against Cover2. Teams have been beating us with this for years now.

 

[cowboyz]

i've noticed that rbs are usually open at the goalline and romo can run it for a 1st usually around midfield.

but he's always looking downfield. as BP says he's overconfident. expecting the wrs or tes to get open. and the big flaw, expecting the oline to keep a pocket.

i have noticed the oline giving him very little time the past weeks, now it seems the pocket collapses even quicker. whereas in previous weeks romo got the ball out quickly before the rush could even get there