passes to the backs

[Bob Sacamano]

Romo actually is excellent at looking at all the receivers.

This is 1 of the bigger plusses of his skills.

Everyone has praised him for how much his head and eyes are searching downfield and looking at all possible receivers.

Must we look at the stats on how he spreads the ball around?

The RBs arent getting catches because they arent leaving the backfield as often as other backs around the league.

And as for that guy who said the tapes show different is watching different tapes.

but getting sacked for hanging onto the ball too long, that's what Dave is talking about, Romo is always looking for the perfect play, the long pass-play, that he's not taking what the D gives him most of the time

that's due to both his aggressiveness, and us being behind in games, remember how in our winning streak, we were in games for the whole duration, and ROMo was doing great spreading the ball? we need to get back to that point, the D needs to play alot better, and the running game needs to start getting going, Oline forbidding

 

[dallasfaniac]

And as for that guy who said the tapes show different is watching different tapes.

Well, I will go ahead and come up with the numbers if you like, but on our opening possession against Detroit, the very first play Jones was about 8 yards beyond the line of scrimmage and managed to recover a Romo fumble for 2 yards. Then a quick play to Owens which is dropped. And then a pass to Barber before we punted. So that's 2 out of the first 3 plays.

I'll go ahead and bust that out for you, don't worry.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Romo actually is excellent at looking at all the receivers.

This is 1 of the bigger plusses of his skills.

Everyone has praised him for how much his head and eyes are searching downfield and looking at all possible receivers.

Must we look at the stats on how he spreads the ball around?

The RBs arent getting catches because they arent leaving the backfield as often as other backs around the league.

And as for that guy who said the tapes show different is watching different tapes.

I highlighted the key word. You typed it. I'm not taking any thing away from Tony. He doesn't look to check down. In fact he doesn't look to just throw the ball away either.
You have noticed his INT's are way up right?

 

[smarta5150]

but getting sacked for hanging onto the ball too long, that's what Dave is talking about, Romo is always looking for the perfect play, the long pass-play, that he's not taking what the D gives him most of the time

that's due to both his aggressiveness, and us being behind in games, remember how in our winning streak, we were in games for the whole duration, and ROMo was doing great spreading the ball? we need to get back to that point, the D needs to play alot better, and the running game needs to start getting going, Oline forbidding

You got it.

I think the biggest problem is the lack of running game which is a result of our OLine.

Its seems like our OLine is back to how they were with Bledsoe... but they arent even run blocking.

We need some consistent play from the guys up front to make everything right.

 

[smarta5150]

Well, I will go ahead and come up with the numbers if you like, but on our opening possession against Detroit, the very first play Jones was about 8 yards beyond the line of scrimmage and managed to recover a Romo fumble for 2 yards. Then a quick play to Owens which is dropped. And then a pass to Barber before we punted. So that's 2 out of the first 3 plays.

I'll go ahead and bust that out for you, don't worry.

If you noticed we did MANY things differently in the Lions game.

We ran slants to TO... we stunted DLine... did a flea-ficker...

So we were trying new things obviously.

Good luck in your search.

 

[smarta5150]

I highlighted the key word. You typed it. I'm not taking any thing away from Tony. He doesn't look to check down. In fact he doesn't look to just throw the ball away either.
You have noticed his INT's are way up right?

You have noticed we have been playing from behind and our run game is non-existent havent you?

Maybe if our defense played up to their potential and our OLine decided to run block Romo wouldnt have to put the team on his shoulders and play from behind all game.

 

[dallasfaniac]

If you noticed we did MANY things differently in the Lions game.

We ran slants to TO... we stunted DLine... did a flea-ficker...

So we were trying new things obviously.

Good luck in your search.

I just happen to have the Lions game in right now, I can pull out the others if need be. Since we both watch the tapes, look at minute 4:27 in the first quarter. Look at Jones completely wide open for a sure first down and much more. Romo doesn't even look at him, he throws it 40 yards way out of bounds because Owens is running to the sidelines. He even had Barber for what was a sure first down, yet he was looking for the homerun. I have watched and rewatched the games and even when he has underneath players, he tends to shyaway from them. But it must be my eyes.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

You have noticed we have been playing from behind and our run game is non-existent havent you?

Maybe if our defense played up to their potential and our OLine decided to run block Romo wouldnt have to put the team on his shoulders and play from behind all game.

AGAIN I'm not faulting TONY. It is what it is. What do you think Parcells means when he says Tony is over confident? I take it as he forces some things he shouldn't. He's a bright kid, he will correct what little he's doing wrong.

 

[smarta5150]

I just happen to have the Lions game in right now, I can pull out the others if need be. Since we both watch the tapes, look at minute 4:27 in the first quarter. Look at Jones completely wide open for a sure first down and much more. Romo doesn't even look at him, he throws it 40 yards way out of bounds because Owens is running to the sidelines. He even had Barber for what was a sure first down, yet he was looking for the homerun. I have watched and rewatched the games and even when he has underneath players, he tends to shyaway from them. But it must be my eyes.

Wow. You found 1 play.

We are last in the league in completing passes to RBs.

Go see how many times Bledsoe threw to our RBs.

You will see it was the same thing. You know why?

Cause throwing to RBs is not in our scheme.

 

[smarta5150]

AGAIN I'm not faulting TONY. It is what it is. What do you think Parcells means when he says Tony is over confident? I take it as he forces some things he shouldn't. He's a bright kid, he will correct what little he's doing wrong.

Well I blame Parcells for hitting the panic button once we go down by 1 point.

Maybe if he stayed calm and stuck to the plan instead of going to the air 75% of time cause we are losing by 1... this is the guy who went for a 2 pointer in the 1st half against the Skins.

Way to stay poised BP.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Well I blame Parcells for hitting the panic button once we go down by 1 point.

Maybe if he stayed calm and stuck to the plan instead of going to the air 75% of time cause we are losing by 1... this is the guy who went for a 2 pointer in the 1st half against the Skins.

Way to stay poised BP.

You are correct. I think Parcells is over confident when it comes to Romo too.
I know I am. That ain't a bad thing in my book.

 

[smarta5150]

Gimme a few minutes... I am compiling a list of catches the RBs had with Bledsoe.

 

[dallasfaniac]

Wow. You found 1 play.

We are last in the league in completing passes to RBs.

Go see how many times Bledsoe threw to our RBs.

You will see it was the same thing. You know why?

Cause throwing to RBs is not in our scheme.

You do remember that Bledsoe's fault was he held on to the ball too long looking for the kill shot and was run out of both New England and Buffalo because he didn't check down right?

I guess you really want the numbers or something, or you are the type that will never admit it.

It is a trend that Romo is doing ever increasing. Sure you can say that it is because we are behind, but against Detroit 4 of the first 6 plays the runningbacks went out in routes and Romo never looked their way. Punt, Punt, Punt. This was when we were down by 3 and then down by 6.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Gimme a few minutes... I am compiling a list of catches the RBs had with Bledsoe.

Keep in mind Bledsoe couldn't get out of his own way.
Also remember that the backs were held in more often because of above reason.

 

[smarta5150]

With Bledsoe (5.5 games)

JJ - 3 catches in 6 games.
MBIII - 6 catches in 6 games.

With Romo (10.5 games and 2 passes vs HOU)

JJ - 6
MBIII - 17

So Romo is getting the ball to the RBs more (Bledsoe was on a lower pace than Romo's final numbers).

This is our scheme.

Bledsoe got run out why? Cause he couldnt check down? Funny, I remember him getting hurt and Brady going on to win 3 super bowls.

 

[smarta5150]

You do remember that Bledsoe's fault was he held on to the ball too long looking for the kill shot and was run out of both New England and Buffalo because he didn't check down right?

I guess you really want the numbers or something, or you are the type that will never admit it.

It is a trend that Romo is doing ever increasing. Sure you can say that it is because we are behind, but against Detroit 4 of the first 6 plays the runningbacks went out in routes and Romo never looked their way. Punt, Punt, Punt. This was when we were down by 3 and then down by 6.

He was injured and Brady's dynasty emerged.

He was old and couldnt avoid a sack.

Not cause he couldnt check down.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

With Bledsoe (5.5 games)

JJ - 3 catches in 6 games.
MBIII - 6 catches in 6 games.

With Romo (10.5 games and 2 passes vs HOU)

JJ - 6
MBIII - 17

So Romo is getting the ball to the RBs more (Bledsoe was on a lower pace than Romo's final numbers).

This is our scheme.

Bledsoe got run out why? Cause he couldnt check down? Funny, I remember him getting hurt and Brady going on to win 3 super bowls.

So you are saying our scheme is to throw to the RBs? I'm not understanding.

That part I don't get at all.

 

[smarta5150]

So you are saying our scheme is to throw to the RBs? I'm not understanding.

That part I don't get at all.

No its not.

I am saying the scheme is the reason why we arent throwing to the backs.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

No its not.

I am saying the scheme is the reason why we arent throwing to the backs.

Gottchya. I still say it's Romo not checking down. I guess we just don't agree.:toast2:

 

[smarta5150]

Gottchya. I still say it's Romo not checking down. I guess we just don't agree.:toast2:

He must have learned this from Bledsoe