Patriots sign OT Waddle

[Sydla]

In all seriousness, I hope Fleming signs here. Would finally be a worthwhile FA signing that makes some sense.

 

[KingintheNorth]

In all seriousness, I hope Fleming signs here. Would finally be a worthwhile FA signing that makes some sense.

Their back-up.

Our savior.

 

[OmerV]

Their back-up.

Our savior.

We have 3 All-Pro offensive linemen already, so for us a star player isn't necessary. Besides, he has started quite a few games for NE, so it's not like he's been buried on the bench.

 

[Sydla]

Their back-up.

Our savior.

I get the snark but with this OL, I think if you slide Collins to LG and Fleming slides in at RT, you'll have a very good OL. Remember, this OL was performing at a high level and just getting adequate play from Free at times. Fleming certainly would be no worse and likely will be pretty cost effective on an OL that, by far, has the most money tied up in it in the entire NFL.

It also allows you to still draft a couple of OL in the mid to late rounds as development guys and not have a situation where the front office forces a high pick on the OL because they don't have a 5th OL.

 

[canters]

JJ was taking Fleming on a helicopter ride all this time..... now I got it.

 

[jterrell]

We have 3 All-Pro offensive linemen already, so for us a star player isn't necessary. Besides, he has started quite a few games for NE, so it's not like he's been buried on the bench.

While I applaud this logical take you can't make logical points to emotionally wrecked posters.
It's like telling a woman to calm down.

 

[OmerV]

While I applaud this logical take you can't make logical points to emotionally wrecked posters.
It's like telling a woman to calm down.

Now, this is politically incorrect. But it's also factually correct. And funny.

 

[northerncowboynation]

Flemming still in play. Not visiting any other team so it's the Pats or Boys. If he is signed he'll gt a shot at RT, will get some competition from a draftee though. Put the best combination of five starters on the field. Four are determined, one of the four doesn't have a determined position yet and the last isn't on the team yet. It's that process thing revisited

 

[OmerV]

Flemming still in play. Not visiting any other team so it's the Pats or Boys. If he is signed he'll gt a shot at RT, will get some competition from a draftee though

I would think that since the Pats signed Weddle that hurts his leverage, whereas Dallas still has a hole in it's O-Line.

 

[northerncowboynation]

I would think that since the Pats signed Weddle that hurts his leverage, whereas Dallas still has a hole in it's O-Line.

Hurts the leverage of whom? And why? You mean it hurts Flemmings chances of being re-signed by the Pats? Or hurt's his leverage with the Boys? There's only so much meat on the bone Omer if you're referring to bargaining power for $. It costs about $7 mill for the draft class alone. There isn't much meat there even with Fredbeard's contract changes. Could be a few more to come I suppose

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/cap/ New players signed, Fredbeards restructure, Scandy's cut... just over $4 mill. I think that's with Freddbeards restruct. Don't quote me on that

 

[KingintheNorth]

We have 3 All-Pro offensive linemen already, so for us a star player isn't necessary. Besides, he has started quite a few games for NE, so it's not like he's been buried on the bench.

I like Fleming and would have no issue with this signing. Our O-line is very good and he would be the 5th best guy. It's why I don't want to draft a Guard at 19; too many valuable resources dedicated to the O Line.

The issue for me is that this franchise and its abused fanbase is at a point to where we are coveting players that other teams view as back-up's.

 

[KingintheNorth]

While I applaud this logical take you can't make logical points to emotionally wrecked posters.
It's like telling a woman to calm down.

You can't make logical points with cheerleaders.

No matter what the score, they keep waiving their pom-pom's, yelling "Go Team!"

Cheer on.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

I like Fleming and would have no issue with this signing. Our O-line is very good and he would be the 5th best guy. It's why I don't want to draft a Guard at 19; too many valuable resources dedicated to the O Line.

The issue for me is that this franchise and it's abused fanbase is at a point to where we are coveting players that other teams view as back-up's.

I'm thinking if the Cowboys sign Fleming, he will start at left guard. I think the media and many fans (myself included) jumped on the "move La'el Collins back to left guard" bandwagon a little too early.

This might be the holdup if contract negotiations are indeed going on right now. Tackles make more than guards (generally speaking) and Fleming could decide to look for more money elsewhere (hope not, I want him here).

 

[northerncowboynation]

I'm thinking if the Cowboys sign Fleming, he will start at left guard. I think the media and many fans (myself included) jumped on the "move La'el Collins back to left guard" bandwagon a little too early.

This might be the holdup if contract negotiations are indeed going on right now. Tackles make more than guards (generally speaking) and Fleming could decide to look for more money elsewhere (hope not, I want him here).

ummm Flemming is a T. No more moving G to T and T to G please. We did that with cheesie Chad it failed. We did it with Collins. Not pretty the first 6 games but he came around

 

[northerncowboynation]

You can't make logical points with cheerleaders.

No matter what the score, they keep waiving their pom-pom's, yelling "Go Team!"

Cheer on.

Sure you can. You just made one. Go Team!

 

[CT Dal Fan]

ummm Flemming is a T. No more moving G to T and T to G please. We did that with cheesie Chad it failed. We did it with Collins. Not pretty the first 6 games but he came around

That's what I am saying- let's leave Collins at tackle now and not move him around. Fleming is an okay tackle, maybe even above average at times, but the Cowboys have a huge hole at LG and he can't be worse there than Chaz Green was.

 

[northerncowboynation]

I like Fleming and would have no issue with this signing. Our O-line is very good and he would be the 5th best guy. It's why I don't want to draft a Guard at 19; too many valuable resources dedicated to the O Line.

The issue for me is that this franchise and its abused fanbase is at a point to where we are coveting players that other teams view as back-up's.

You do realize the D-line is now paid just 6% less than the O-line right. I knew that pie chart would come in handy.

 

[northerncowboynation]

That's what I am saying- let's leave Collins at tackle now and not move him around. Fleming is an okay tackle, maybe even above average at times, but the Cowboys have a huge hole at LG and he can't be worse there than Chaz Green was.

Oh sorry it read like Flemming would play G. Sorry man. Oh, you do want him to play G! But he's a T. I'm ok with Collins at G or T. He has played both and well. The foot injury killed his season on 2016 and Leary was a great G. Sense would move Collins back to LG and have Flemming play his natural position at T. What do I know about sense though. More sense would be to draft another T and push Flemming. I see Green sticking at swing tackle. Again, what do I know about sense

 

[OmerV]

Hurts the leverage of whom? And why? You mean it hurts Flemmings chances of being re-signed by the Pats? Or hurt's his leverage with the Boys? There's only so much meat on the bone Omer if you're referring to bargaining power for $. It costs about $7 mill for the draft class alone. There isn't much meat there even with Fredbeard's contract changes. Could be a few more to come I suppose

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/cap/ New players signed, Fredbeards restructure, Scandy's cut... just over $4 mill. I think that's with Freddbeards restruct. Don't quote me on that

I meant it hurts his leverage with the Pats now that they have signed Waddle. His better bet is probably to try and work something out with Dallas because he has more leverage with a team that has a hole to fill, plus he is likely to get a better chance to start with Dallas. I understand the Cowboys have restrictions, but they still have some maneuvering they could do. After all, they obviously felt they could make room for Sammy Watkins, and he would have been a lot more expensive than Flemming.

 

[OmerV]

I like Fleming and would have no issue with this signing. Our O-line is very good and he would be the 5th best guy. It's why I don't want to draft a Guard at 19; too many valuable resources dedicated to the O Line.

The issue for me is that this franchise and its abused fanbase is at a point to where we are coveting players that other teams view as back-up's.

It's not as if he were a backup in Cleveland. New England is the elite organization in the NFL, and I have to believe they don't give significant playing time to people that can't protect Tom Brady.