Peerless Price: The good, the bad, the ugly...

[LaTunaNostra]

Okay, non-elite vs. elite WR's really isn't the issue ... we're talking about blocking and doing dirty work. Don't all three require their WR's to block and do dirty work? And they expect team players. And all three are bringing in Price for a visit?

It wasn't me who 'invented' the Price hates to block rap.

And it is prevalent enough to have to have some truth to it.

These three are on a fishing trip just now, but the one who signs pp will have had to be convinced during the interview he is a team player, and will at the very least give his best blocking effort.

He may never be a good blocker, but if he is willing to apply himself and improve, even Tuna won't write him off.

 

[Rack]

Funny, Roshi, you only comment on the negative part about Price.


I guess there's nothing wrong with the positives? So the positives are right, but the negatives are not true.

Sign him now! There's nothing but positives with this player! Yeehaw!

 

[InmanRoshi]

These three are on a fishing trip just now, but the one who signs pp will have had to be convinced during the interview he is a team player, and will at the very least give his best blocking effort.

I just find it strange that the three fisherman using the biggest bait are all Parcells and/or descendants of Parcells. Parcells and Belichick's familiarity with the AFC East, I don't think either one of them are fumbling around in the dark scratching their heads and wondering what he's all about.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Sign him now!

Great point.

Totally agree.

 

[Rack]

I just find it strange that the three fisherman using the biggest bait are all Parcells and/or descendants of Parcells. Parcells and Belichick's familiarity with the AFC East, I don't think either one of them are fumbling around in the dark scratching their heads and wondering what he's all about.

Just cuz Belichick is a descendant of Parcells doesn't make him a clone of parcells. Who says Belichick puts as much stress into his WRs blocking?


And really, why would he when the Pats are a passing team anyway?

 

[Rack]

Anyone remember the point I made about all the PP man-love going on?


It's still going on with "some" people.

 

[InmanRoshi]

I agreed with most of your positives. I had nothing to add there.

Your final conclusion is that Price would make a great #2 or #3 WR. I have nothing to add there.

As soon as I see one single poster suggest that Price should be brought in for franchise money as a #1 WR, your accusations of man love accusations would be worthwhile. But as of 3 days, I've yet to see a single poster suggest that. Everyone is saying he should be brought in for a situational spot and insurance. So it seems your entire post like not only are you preaching to the manlove choir, but you've joined the chorus.

 

[PullMyFinger]

hehe

The need NOT to tow the total logic line

Say that fast five times....... :

 

[Mamba]

The need NOT to tow the total logic line
The need NOT to tow the total logic line
The need NOT to tow the total logic line
The need NOT to tow the total logic line
The need NOT to tow the total logic line

 

[AbeBeta]

Just cuz Belichick is a descendant of Parcells doesn't make him a clone of parcells. Who says Belichick puts as much stress into his WRs blocking?

Beli emphasizes a team game. I can't see that being accomplished with WRs who aren't willing to block. But blocking to spring an RB and blocking to spring the QB who refuses to throw the ball are two different things. You block for the RB to promote an effective run game -- safeties then have to get in the box and the WRs have more room to work. When you block for a QB you encourage him to ... run some more.

My bet is that Price's comments on blocking were not about blocking for Dunn or the other RBs - they were directed at Vick. Nobody like to play with a ball hog.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

I just find it strange that the three fisherman using the biggest bait are all Parcells and/or descendants of Parcells. Parcells and Belichick's familiarity with the AFC East, I don't think either one of them are fumbling around in the dark scratching their heads and wondering what he's all about.

I don't either, they are mega intelligent coaches who have a pretty good sense of all the starters in the league, access to game film, and scouting depts who can provide them with detailed analyses.

But because there is no such animal as a perfect player, every coach has to weigh the strengths and the weaknesses. I would say perhaps especially at receiver, a position that at first glance looks so straightfoward, but where the tangibles are so diverse, and the intangibles so dependent upon finding a player WITH attitude, but just the right balance of confidence and ego.

I don't think any of these coaches will eliminate from consideration any player who isn't the complete package....and these three do pride themselves on getting the most out of their players..the better the teacher, the more likely the student can be more polished or complete.

Roshi, one more note on the logic thing...we have both got more than our share of commendations on that area from our fellow posters. And I think we both could agree we are passionate about football. I also really hope our disagreement on this player is not gonna cause any lasting ill will. I appreciate your sentiment that you would take a sermon on this from anyone BUT me, as I admittedly go into emotional overdrive anytime a discussion begins with Terry WILL go down again and I'm not ashamed to admit it. I wanna be able to express the full range of my personality on a forum, not just the 'logic'.

My one asset as a poster tho, is not logic, passion, wit, writing or any of that other crap. It is the refusal to bear grudges against any posters EVER with whom I have disagreed about ANYTHING.

Tomorrow's a new day and whether this guy ends up a Cowboy or not, the debate has been a good one on both the logic and passion ends, and I do hope you feel the same.

 

[BARRYRAY]

Sports Illustrated Fantasy Mag has Price at #55 out of the top 88--gues who's only one notch up---Terry Glenn at #54, got to be better than Morgan, sign him cheap...

 

[LaTunaNostra]

Sports Illustrated Fantasy Mag has Price at #55 out of the top 88--gues who's only one notch up---Terry Glenn at #54, got to be better than Morgan, sign him cheap...

Terry Glenn, I have read often, is 'fantasy football poison".

I should think Price would rate UP from TG.

 

[Rack]

Morgan sucks and I want him gone, but at least he blocks (he should probably gain weight and play TE lol).


So by signing price and releasing Morgan we gain some hands and lose some blocking. I'm all for that, since it's a WRs primary job to CATCH the ball anyway, but I'd be hopeful that BP can at least get PP to TRY and block. He doesn't have to be Hines Ward out there, but at least put forth the effort.

 

[jem88]

Rack, that was more than fair, imo. But you're right the man-love has been flat out stunning. Befitting of a Tory Holt quality player.

Man, Torry Holt. Now there is a player I'd love to have on this team.

 

[DLCassidy]

Morgan sucks and I want him gone, but at least he blocks (he should probably gain weight and play TE lol).


So by signing price and releasing Morgan we gain some hands and lose some blocking. I'm all for that, since it's a WRs primary job to CATCH the ball anyway, but I'd be hopeful that BP can at least get PP to TRY and block. He doesn't have to be Hines Ward out there, but at least put forth the effort.

If this was all you'd been saying for the past three days I doubt you would have had any argument from about 90% of the board. Price is what he is. And what he is can help this team win games and solidify the thinnest position on the team. People are excited about him not because he's Randy Moss but because he's a pretty good player at a position of need and his last name isn't Morgan. Assuming he doesn't want big money it's a no-brainer.

 

[ghst187]

Bottom line:

If he becomes a Cowboy I'll root for him and hope he contributes to the team. I just don't want them to bring in any "turds" after all the work they've done to "flush the toilet".
QUOTE]

right on!

 

[felix360]

The Ugly:

This guy has been rumored to be a cancer. He has told Jim Mora Jr that "I get paid to catch passes, not block for RBs". It's also been said he's not willing to play special teams. But being the #1 WR in Atlanta (or trying to be) I'd assume he wasn't asked to play special teams anyway. He did return punts in Buffalo, although he was increcibly horrible at it (6.1 career punt return average). Obviously this has to be looked into extensively with Parcells before any signings take place. I'd assume BP will have a "Sit down" with PP (heh) before they sign him. If BP feels Price will work hard, block, and not complain, then I'm all for it. Bring him in.

if he's not willing to block for julius then i see this as a problem, we dont need a cancer on out team,

 

[TruBlueCowboy]

His numbers in Atlanta weren't great, but a big reason for that is Michael Vick. Vick is NOT a good passer. Period. No WR is gonna have big numbers with Vick at QB until/unless Vick improves the passing portion of his game. He also went through an offensive philosiphy (sp?) change last year and that effected him and Vick (which inturn effected Price even more).

Everyone said the same thing about Joey Galloway under Quincy Carter. Some here even predicted he would have a better season than Keyshawn with "real" quarterbacks. Yup, he really tore it up in Tampa Bay.

 

[wileedog]

Everyone said the same thing about Joey Galloway under Quincy Carter. Some here even predicted he would have a better season than Keyshawn with "real" quarterbacks. Yup, he really tore it up in Tampa Bay.

Uh, in half a season he racked up 416 yards and 5 TDs.

If Peerless gets 800+ yards and 9-10 TDs I'll be ecstatic.