Peter King MMQB Mailbag: Now this isn't a bad idea... Martellus Bennett to Pats?

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theogt;3310061 said:
Bennett for a 2nd? I think any team that gets Bennett for a 2nd is making out like a bandit. By his 3rd and 4th seasons he should be reaching his potential and if you featured him as a #1 receiving TE, you'd probably seems some incredible production.

I agree, and once he does leave you'll see everyone of the fickle folks then slamming Jones for letting him get away,
 

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Doomsday101;3310152 said:
Only people who make this claim are some here who also have alot of other issues with Bennett. All I care about is the end product and it will be up to the coaches to get through to him and of course himself stepping up.

Lastly I notice a lot of QB's in the NFL redirecting players week in and week out and these are not rookie players I also see vets lining up wrong and getting flagged for every single week.

I think what others are saying is Bennett is getting this done to him much much more often than most of those other players you are referring to.
Forgetting a play or just having a mind fart happens to everyone. It just appears to happen to Bennett far more often, thus leading some to believe he must not know the playbook.
 

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Doomsday101;3310152 said:
Only people who make this claim are some here who also have alot of other issues with Bennett.

That's an outright lie.

Go pull up Todd Archer's recent article on good 'ol Marty B. He says the exact same thing.

But I'm sure he's "making stuff up" too.[/quote]
 

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BAZ;3310063 said:
If he can stay off the twiters and whatnot.

What is a whatnot? I am familiar with cannot and should not.
 

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Does it have to be so black and white?

Is suggesting that the "not knowing the playbook" school of thought is an exaggeration mean that you have to be completely happy with last year's results?

What last years results obviously mean is that Bennett needs to work harder to get more involved in the passing game.
 

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great blocker, I want him in Dallas just for that. Seriously not every TE is as good as J-Witt. Infact only 1 is, him.
 

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WoodysGirl;3310173 said:
Does it have to be so black and white?

Is suggesting that the "not knowing the playbook" school of thought is an exaggeration mean that you have to be completely happy with last year's results?

What last years results obviously mean is that Bennett needs to work harder to get more involved in the passing game.

No.

It's a terrific grey area that some keep themselves in.

I'm wrong, but nobody has a valid point refuting me.

The fact is that unless we're in the huddle, nobody can say with any measure of certainty exactly what's happening, and the parties involved will never tell us (at least while Bennett is here).

What we can say with certainty is that Bennett disappointed last year - for whatever reason one would like to apply as to why.
 

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It's not as if Bennett is some transcendent, elite talent that can overcome being an idiot. He isn't Randy Moss.

I'd say the odds are far greater that he'll never do anything but tease us with some great plays to show us the kind of player he could have been with a reasonable work ethic. Then he'll do something to remind us that he's a lazy moron.
 

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stasheroo;3310075 said:
Watch a game this past season.

Pick one.

Any one.

You'll find at least one play where somebody has to line him up or tell him where to go.

Marty B - too much facebook, not enough playbook.

Post of the Thread..... LOL
 

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stasheroo;3310181 said:
No.

It's a terrific grey area that some keep themselves in.

I'm wrong, but nobody has a valid point refuting me.

The fact is that unless we're in the huddle, nobody can say with any measure of certainty exactly what's happening, and the parties involved will never tell us (at least while Bennett is here).

What we can say with certainty is that Bennett disappointed last year - for whatever reason one would like to apply as to why.



The only fact backing up this whole game, which in my opinion is correct is the 3rd STRING TE with the same playbook, the same QB and the same general job got more production. If you are looking for facts from coaches who are told to shut it against the evidence on the field, than you are taking to long to find the straw in a cup full of straws.

The coaches dont have to tell to the media and fans that a player sucks, the evidence is on the field.

Regardless if Roy Williams knew the playbook or not, was he productive? WEll, if this was pop warner than yes, but its not.

A second for Bennett, id take that in a heart beat and still get great production from our new 2nd TE. The only thing Bennett has is height, which you cant fake, so if hes not wanting to do it here, why keep him? So he doesnt do well someplace else, selfish selfish thought.
 

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Romo 2 Austin;3310178 said:
great blocker, I want him in Dallas just for that. Seriously not every TE is as good as J-Witt. Infact only 1 is, him.

okay, let go of the praising, Gonzalez is a good TE and is humble enough to say Witten is, but lets not forget what Gonzalez has done through his career. Takes a big man to admit it when the media wants it darlin and he turned it to Witten, and thats class. I agree Witten right now stands as the best and is a true warrior for our team, but thats not to say other players dont give it their all as well and Wittens in a fine club with other honorable mentions.
 

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stasheroo;3310181 said:
No.

It's a terrific grey area that some keep themselves in.

I'm wrong, but nobody has a valid point refuting me.

The fact is that unless we're in the huddle, nobody can say with any measure of certainty exactly what's happening, and the parties involved will never tell us (at least while Bennett is here).

What we can say with certainty is that Bennett disappointed last year - for whatever reason one would like to apply as to why.

I see someone with no facts and a lot of opinions... I also see someone with a blind hatred for a player. You're not speaking of a fact, you're speaking off your opinion. You should start wording them as such. You can't imply he doesn't know the playbook because the bottom line is you do NOT know.

You can argue all day and say "I can give him the benefit of the doubt on some plays - but other plays, he just lines up wrong"

Once again - you're WRONG. That is your OPINION. You do not know the playbook, you do not know the play that was called - you do not know if Romo adjusted a play. I see Witten being moved around lots. Same for our HB's, and same for our FB/TE's playing that role. I don't see you saying they need to spend less time on facebook and more time in the playbook.

The bottom line is - you don't know jack. You know what you interpret - what you percieve to be true based solely off what you watch on tv. The bottom line - you're still WRONG for treating your opinion as a fact. This is the very definition of opinion. What you percieve to be as reality, and what is reality - are usually two different things.

a personal belief or judgment that is not founded on proof or certainty; "my opinion differs from yours"; "I am not of your persuasion"; "what are ...

People around here will start believing you, and it'll get even worse for the poor guy once media catches wind. After an issue like this is confirmed - it's perfectly okay for you to talk as such, and treat it as such. Until then, you're just another reason the majority of our fans are clueless.
 

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stasheroo;3310181 said:
No.

It's a terrific grey area that some keep themselves in.

I'm wrong, but nobody has a valid point refuting me.

The fact is that unless we're in the huddle, nobody can say with any measure of certainty exactly what's happening, and the parties involved will never tell us (at least while Bennett is here).
Legit question. Do you really think your point about him not knowing the playbook is really that valid when he was on the field so much last year? He's got to know the playbook enough to get on the field. He's got to know the game plan enough to stay on the field.

With the amount of playing time he got, how can one say he didn't know the playbook? It's an exaggeration. He knew the playbook enough and played well enough to stay in the lineup as the #2 TE, the majority of the year.

His lack of impact in the passing game is the issue for many. Should he study the playbook more? I think they all do. Suggesting he needs to work harder on route running. I'd say so. Suggesting he needs to gain the trust of Romo. That's a must.

What we can say with certainty is that Bennett disappointed last year - for whatever reason one would like to apply as to why.
I'd agree.
 

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WoodysGirl;3310197 said:
Legit question. Do you really think your point about him not knowing the playbook is really that valid when he was on the field so much last year? He's got to know the playbook enough to get on the field. He's got to know the game plan enough to stay on the field.

With the amount of playing time he got, how can one say he didn't know the playbook? It's an exaggeration. He knew the playbook enough and played well enough to stay in the lineup as the #2 TE, the majority of the year.

And he knew it poorly enough to be a complete no-factor in the passing game. See how that works?

His lack of impact in the passing game is the issue for many. Should he study the playbook more? I think they all do. Suggesting he needs to work harder on route running. I'd say so. Suggesting he needs to gain the trust of Romo. That's a must.

I'd agree.

And how does he accomplish these things?

By working harder, knowing his assignments, and being where he's supposed to be.

How is it that Roy Williams is phased out of the offense and so often a non-factor?

For many of the same reasons, he's not where he's supposed to be, the quarterback can't trust him to be, so the quarterback looks elsewhere.
 

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pgreptom;3310191 said:
I see someone with no facts and a lot of opinions... I also see someone with a blind hatred for a player. You're not speaking of a fact, you're speaking off your opinion. You should start wording them as such. You can't imply he doesn't know the playbook because the bottom line is you do NOT know.

You can argue all day and say "I can give him the benefit of the doubt on some plays - but other plays, he just lines up wrong"

Once again - you're WRONG. That is your OPINION. You do not know the playbook, you do not know the play that was called - you do not know if Romo adjusted a play. I see Witten being moved around lots. Same for our HB's, and same for our FB/TE's playing that role. I don't see you saying they need to spend less time on facebook and more time in the playbook.

The bottom line is - you don't know jack. You know what you interpret - what you percieve to be true based solely off what you watch on tv. The bottom line - you're still WRONG for treating your opinion as a fact. This is the very definition of opinion. What you percieve to be as reality, and what is reality - are usually two different things.



People around here will start believing you, and it'll get even worse for the poor guy once media catches wind. After an issue like this is confirmed - it's perfectly okay for you to talk as such, and treat it as such. Until then, you're just another reason the majority of our fans are clueless.

I'll leave Bennett's pathetic 2009 production as all of the "facts" I need.

The "poor guy"....

Laughable.

And I don't need your permission to "talk as such" thanks.

I call it like I see it, without my Cowboys goggles on.

We can argue over why Bennett is a disappointment all we want, the fact remains that he is.
 

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dbair1967;3310157 said:
I agree, and once he does leave you'll see everyone of the fickle folks then slamming Jones for letting him get away,

Doubtful. Dallas has the best TE in the league. Nothing Bennett does will change that fact.

The guy is limited by a number of things, one of them being he is the #2 guy on the depth chart.
 

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stasheroo;3310201 said:
And he knew it poorly enough to be a complete no-factor in the passing game. See how that works?
I'm sure this made sense in your head before you typed it.

Actually, I can't even be certain of that.
 
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