Peter King's draft nuggets

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Are we just assuming he can play the slot? Or is he taking Gilly or Trevons job? Or is Trevon getting traded? Because it seems like a misuse of draft capital taking a corner after the Gilmore trade
Gilmore is basically a 1 yr rental. Draft isn't just about year 1, you draft Forbes to become a full time starter in 2024. This yr he would play in the sub-packages and provide depth if one of the top starters goes down.
 

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Awesome to hear that Dallas is still in on Forbes despite his weight.

Man. Just imagine Forbes' ball hawking plus Diggs' ball hawking plus Bland's ball hawking. It'd be insane.
That would be something to watch. Might give up some plays, but teams will be very hesitant to test them.
 

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Oakland / Las Vegas Raiders[edit]​

On December 31, 2018, Mayock was hired to be the general manager of the Oakland Raiders.[13] One of Mayock's first splashes as general manager was trading for embittered Pittsburgh Steelers wide receiver Antonio Brown. In his first draft with the team, Mayock used the team's three first-round picks on Clelin Ferrell, Josh Jacobs, and Johnathan Abram. Mayock was involved in a heated verbal exchange with Brown during a practice session prior to the start of the 2019 NFL season, in which Brown insulted Mayock as a "cracker". The altercation allegedly stemmed from an Instagram post in which Brown displayed a letter from Mayock that detailed approximately $54,000 in fines for absences during training camp, which led to Brown being released and eventually signing with the New England Patriots.[14]

On January 17, 2022, Mayock was fired by the Raiders after the team's first playoff game since 2016. The Raiders' overall record with Mayock was 25–24 in the regular season and 0–1 in the playoffs. Some of the Raiders' best picks during Mayock's tenure came after Round 1 including Trayvon Mullen (who was traded for a 7th round pick in 2022[15]), Maxx Crosby, and Hunter Renfrow in 2019—and Divine Deablo and Nate Hobbs in 2021.[16] None of Mayock's first round picks in the 2020 and 2021 NFL drafts (Henry Ruggs, Damon Arnette, and Alex Leatherwood) lasted a little more than a year with the team.[17] Mayock has claimed he was fired, in part, for his belief that Rich Bisaccia should have been retained as head coach.[18]
Liked Mayock on NFL Network and Senior Bowl coverage but he was awful as GM. Missed on so many early guys and drafting Ruggs was just dumb as I said long before he wrecked that car.
 

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That would be something to watch. Might give up some plays, but teams will be very hesitant to test them.
I am very much hoping Forbes get drafted before 26.
He is an insanely fast and good cover guy but he was 165 as a HS Senior and is 166 3 years later.
He is not a guy who can stop the run in the NFL at that size without getting injured.
And doesn't have the frame to easily hold more weight.

Given Diggs last of tackling that combo would be pretty awful IMO. You can only cheat a safety to one side.

Dallas shouldn't write DB off this draft board by any means but it isn't a top 5 need.

It would make a lot more sense in round 2 though 4. Lots of targets that would pair better with Diggs IMO. The kids from Spouth Carolina, the Miami CB and the KST kid Brents would all fit better IMO.
And waiting a year on them would be less an issue.
If the team is going for it thus year and it appears they are then they need R1 to play a ton and help.
 

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Gilmore is basically a 1 yr rental. Draft isn't just about year 1, you draft Forbes to become a full time starter in 2024. This yr he would play in the sub-packages and provide depth if one of the top starters goes down.
Since when do teams draft like that in round 1? Seriously
 

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Curious how Peter King's Draft Nuggets compare to Buc-ee's Beaver Nuggets.

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I am very much hoping Forbes get drafted before 26.
He is an insanely fast and good cover guy but he was 165 as a HS Senior and is 166 3 years later.
He is not a guy who can stop the run in the NFL at that size without getting injured.
And doesn't have the frame to easily hold more weight.

Given Diggs last of tackling that combo would be pretty awful IMO. You can only cheat a safety to one side.

Dallas shouldn't write DB off this draft board by any means but it isn't a top 5 need.

It would make a lot more sense in round 2 though 4. Lots of targets that would pair better with Diggs IMO. The kids from Spouth Carolina, the Miami CB and the KST kid Brents would all fit better IMO.
And waiting a year on them would be less an issue.
If the team is going for it thus year and it appears they are then they need R1 to play a ton and help.
Forbes isn't like Diggs as a tackler, he will actually try. Weatherspoon who is this year's top corner weighs 175, yet nobody questions he lack of weight. If the team feels he can get to 175-180, he will be fine.
 

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Forbes isn't like Diggs as a tackler, he will actually try. Weatherspoon who is this year's top corner weighs 175, yet nobody questions he lack of weight. If the team feels he can get to 175-180, he will be fine.

Witherspoon is a freaking dawg. 175 lbs and you can't convince him he's not 275.
 

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Forbes isn't like Diggs as a tackler, he will actually try. Weatherspoon who is this year's top corner weighs 175, yet nobody questions he lack of weight. If the team feels he can get to 175-180, he will be fine.
Witherspoon isn't the top CB on most boards. Dallas' own Christian Gonzales is.
Witherspoon weighed 181 at the Combine and 185 at his Pro Day.

Forbes was 166 and 170 respectively. That is 15 pounds lighter which is very significant.

Forbes is a willing tackler but got shrugged off and ran through some at collegiate level.
NFL is a very different beast.
His weight is a very real concern.
Texas Tech was able to punish Miss St with the run in the 2022 Bowl game as both 230 pound backs ran over those guys including Forbes.
 

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When has a cb been drafted in round 1 as a potential back up? Any team. I'm curious
You are right. Highly doubt this team drafts a backup CB in the first round. They want their first round pick to make an immediate impact
 

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You are right. Highly doubt this team drafts a backup CB in the first round. They want their first round pick to make an immediate impact
you are looking at Kelvin Joseph as the starter if one of the top 3 get hurt.we need to draft a CB with talent.
 

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You are right. Highly doubt this team drafts a backup CB in the first round. They want their first round pick to make an immediate impact
I doubt anybody can show me when this ever happened. Not saying it can't, but I don't recall it happening in the past. Since when did dallas become trendsetters?
 

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you are looking at Kelvin Joseph as the starter if one of the top 3 get hurt.we need to draft a CB with talent.
Id be all for Forbes at 26. With that said, this team isnt drafting anybody in the first round that doesnt have a starting spot waiting for them.

It will be a RB, G or TE. Maybe even a DE thats part of a rotation
 

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Id be all for Forbes at 26. With that said, this team isnt drafting anybody in the first round that doesnt have a starting spot waiting for them.

It will be a RB, G or TE. Maybe even a DE thats part of a rotation
ordinarly i would agree but you have to look to the future.after this season our CB depth chart is really bad.If Diggs continues his Ole ways i wouldnt bother re-signing him at all.
 

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Witherspoon isn't the top CB on most boards. Dallas' own Christian Gonzales is.
Witherspoon weighed 181 at the Combine and 185 at his Pro Day.

Forbes was 166 and 170 respectively. That is 15 pounds lighter which is very significant.

Forbes is a willing tackler but got shrugged off and ran through some at collegiate level.
NFL is a very different beast.
His weight is a very real concern.
Texas Tech was able to punish Miss St with the run in the 2022 Bowl game as both 230 pound backs ran over those guys including Forbes.
Witherspoon is in contention to become the #1 CB drafted, he is the better player now over Gonzalez. If teams were so concerned about Forbes lack of weight, why is he such a hot name right now? He is a terrific player with elite traits, outside of being real skinny. Teams must believe they can add enough weight onto his frame to be successful. His college production was elite in the SEC.
 

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This years draft is so bleh. Especially late in the 1st. I’ll gladly take Forbes at 26 and use him in sub packages and let him learn behind one of the best corners of the last 10-15 years. If you want a day 1 contributor from this draft in the 1st then be pounding the table for a RB or TE. Any other position will be playing in a rotation. L
 
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