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Never said 1st round pick...I prefer 2nd.

You can likely get Vegas odds on the week Tyron will be hurt. Steele is going to want his money. Biadasz is going to want his money. Martin and Tyron don’t have many years left and they have both been our OL cornerstones. Edoga should be a career backup. Do you feel confident we are prepared for those eventualities with our remaining players?

There will likely be a player in the 2nd who can step in Day 1 to fill one guard spot for years. We are set at LT with Tyler. We can decide on Biadasz & Steele later. If signed, those positions are solid moving forward but it will cost a few dollars. If not signed, we have a new hole or holes next year. Tyron doesn’t have much left in the tank and Martin has maybe 3 years left.

And it’s nice to have position flexibility but we need to let Tyler settle on a position. If they want him to be a guard, fine. But IMO, kicking him around to fill holes isn’t doing him any favors with his early development.

In a perfect world, OL is good for 2023. Beyond that, all bets are off. You can start preparing now or wait and hope for health, longevity, and a nice Cowboys hometown discount…IMO.
Don't forget they also have a few prospects in the developmental stage-Walesko/Ball/Farnoik. Wallesko is a player they are really high on and he may even be their swing tackle next yr. Best way to maintain a good OL, is keep adding resources to the unit, which the Cowboys have done the last few years. McGovern is gone, find another Guard to replace him.
 

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I like Porter, but I don't see how he helps us this year.

And I don't like the Eagles getting Gibbs.
Porter becomes CB 3. We play a lot of nickel and dime so he'd play a ton. Bland then is the 4th CB and floats as it's likely there will be injuries.

Gilmore is also only under contract for one season.
 

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Porter becomes CB 3. We play a lot of nickel and dime so he'd play a ton. Bland then is the 4th CB and floats as it's likely there will be injuries.

Gilmore is also only under contract for one season.
Bland deserves CB3. He can be our CB2 next year if Gilmore does leave.
 

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Porter becomes CB 3. We play a lot of nickel and dime so he'd play a ton. Bland then is the 4th CB and floats as it's likely there will be injuries.

Gilmore is also only under contract for one season.
Even if he’s CB4 there’s plenty of snaps he can eat into from the bottom of the depth chart from last year while he develops.
 

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Don't forget they also have a few prospects in the developmental stage-Walesko/Ball/Farnoik. Wallesko is a player they are really high on and he may even be their swing tackle next yr. Best way to maintain a good OL, is keep adding resources to the unit, which the Cowboys have done the last few years. McGovern is gone, find another Guard to replace him.
No I understand that…good on the Cowboys for attempting to replenish. Those are the players I was referring to when I asked if you were comfortable with our “other” players filling starter spots.

If I were the agent for Biadasz, I would be looking for Pro Bowl center money. If I’m Steele’s agent, I’m asking for starter tackle money. How do the Cowboy’s rate their $ value? Are you comfortable counting on significant snaps from Tyrone next year? If we were to lose 1, 2, or all 3, would you still be comfortable with our existing assets?

When it’s time to proactively address these non sexy areas of need, everyone still wants the shiniest players at skill positions. Yet, when we end up resigning someone who we think is overpaid because we didn’t have the foresight to plan ahead, there is a complete board meltdown.

If all you want is fancy rims, don’t be surprised when the engine falls out.
 

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No I understand that…good on the Cowboys for attempting to replenish. Those are the players I was referring to when I asked if you were comfortable with our “other” players filling starter spots.

If I were the agent for Biadasz, I would be looking for Pro Bowl center money. If I’m Steele’s agent, I’m asking for starter tackle money. How do the Cowboy’s rate their $ value? Are you comfortable counting on significant snaps from Tyrone next year? If we were to lose 1, 2, or all 3, would you still be comfortable with our existing assets?

When it’s time to proactively address these non sexy areas of need, everyone still wants the shiniest players at skill positions. Yet, when we end up resigning someone who we think is overpaid because we didn’t have the foresight to plan ahead, there is a complete board meltdown.

If all you want is fancy rims, don’t be surprised when the engine falls out.
There fully aware that extensions are forthcoming next offseason not only there but Lamb and Diggs. The cap space available is probably going to be used to retain some of their players.
 

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Bland deserves CB3. He can be our CB2 next year if Gilmore does leave.
Bland is better suited at slot. He doesn't have the skill set Porter has. If we draft Porter, Porter slides in over Bland. Then when Gilmore leaves (or someone gets hurt), Porter goes outside, Bland slides in as the full time slot guy.
 

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There fully aware that extensions are forthcoming next offseason not only there but Lamb and Diggs. The cap space available is probably going to be used to retain some of their players.
Lol…I realize that as well. Maybe your right. Just plug in our best 5, add a backup late, and we are set for the next 2-3 years. I’m not nearly as optimistic as you but time will tell. I’m not a “I told you so” guy, so we will be able to cordially compare notes once we see the end result.
 

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8. ATLANTA: Bijan Robinson, running back, Texas.

This is too high to pick Robinson, of course. I do know the Falcons really want to trade down, and I do know they like Robinson (who doesn’t?) because he’s the best running back in the draft and has the rare ability to segue into receiver mode with great hands and strong slot capabilities. Of course they’d want to trade down, because taking Robinson at eight would be leaving draft capital on the table. But if they take Robinson, here or lower, imagine the investment in young offensive weapons if this comes true. Round one, fourth pick, 2021: tight end Kyle Pitts Round one, eighth pick, 2022: wide receiver Drake London Round one, eighth pick, 2023: running back/slot receiver Bijan Robinson. Add 1,000-yard rookie running back Tyler Allgeier from the fifth round in 2022, tight end Jonnu Smith in free agency this year, and maybe one more profitable year from runner/receiver/returner Cordarrelle Patterson and tell me—would there be a team in the NFC South that’s better in in-prime offensive weaponry than Atlanta?

9. CHICAGO: Paris Johnson Jr., tackle, Ohio State.

If you’re GM Ryan Poles, you’ve solved a few problems already with offseason acquisitions at receiver (D.J. Moore) and linebacker (T.J. Edwards, Tremaine Edmunds) and guard (Nate Davis). This is the next one—the rock at tackle Poles hopes Johnson can be. Johnson’s stock rose this offseason and he should be immediate help for a line that allowed an unacceptable 58 sacks last year.

10. PHILADELPHIA: Nolan Smith, edge rusher, Georgia.

Came very close to giving the Eagles Peter Skoronski here, but two things happened Sunday. A GM who’s always smart when I do this exercise told me he knew the Eagles love Smith. And someone else told me Skoronski’s very likely to play guard, and check out where the Eagles have drafted starting guards, or guards-to-be. Okay. Cam Jurgens, Landon Dickerson, Isaac Seumalo went 51st, 37th and 79th overall, respectively. And then I looked at the ages of the Eagles’ four most prominent ends or edge players: Brandon Graham, Haason Reddick, Derek Barnett and Josh Sweat average 29 years, 7 months old as of September. Okay. I talked myself into a 238-pound edge player who runs a 4.39 40-yard dash.

25. N.Y. GIANTS: Michael Mayer, tight end, Notre Dame.

Six years ago, the Giants took tight end Evan Engram 23rd overall, and Engram never matched the lofty draft status. In Mayer, New York hopes to find a consistent weapon for Daniel Jones—to pair with Darren Waller at first, then to shine when Waller, entering his age-31 season, is done. Mayer, of course, could go higher—anywhere from 15 to 24. The Giants would be comfortable with a corner if Joey Porter Jr. or Deonte Banks is there, a wideout if Jordan Addison or another outside receiver is there, and maybe even an interior lineman. It’s a longshot, but the talent of Bijan Robinson or Jahmyr Gibbs also might tempt GM Joe Schoen, with the long-term uncertainty of Saquon Barkley hanging over the franchise. I’d love to go receiver here. But adding Isaiah Hodgins, Wan’Dale Robinson (slot) and Parris Campbell in the last year makes receiver still a group of need but not a must-pick here. Interesting thing about Mayer is the book on him: He caught at least one pass in every one of his 36 games at Notre Dame, is the all-time leading tight end in receptions in the rich tradition of Irish football, might be a better blocker than pass-catcher, and missed just one game (groin strain) due to injury in three years. Daniel Jones could use a security blanket in the short and intermediate areas, and Waller and Mayer would give him two.

26. DALLAS: Joey Porter Jr., cornerback, Penn State.

When the offseason began, I expected Porter—son the of the ferocious former Steeler linebacker—to go somewhere in the teens, latest. But some evaluators think he’s not the physical presence his size (6-2 ½, 193 pounds) would portend, and I wouldn’t be shocked if he fell out of the first round.

30. PHILADELPHIA: Jahmyr Gibbs, running back, Alabama.

Might not be just the poor man’s Bijan Robinson. With 195 touches in his one year at Alabama, Gibbs averaged 6.1 yards per rush and 10.1 yards per catch, never fumbling. As good as Robinson was as a collegian, Gibbs has a few teams in this draft that liked him over Robinson for the NFL.
I’ve been planning to do a “Most Overrated” thread but haven’t gotten around to it. Porter was going to be on that list. He has all the physical tools but I’m wary of his ball skills and technique. I wouldn’t bat an eye if we took him at #26, but I think there’s a large gulf between him and Gonzalez. Calijah Kancey was another name I’d have on there too.
 

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Lol…I realize that as well. Maybe your right. Just plug in our best 5, add a backup late, and we are set for the next 2-3 years. I’m not nearly as optimistic as you but time will tell. I’m not a “I told you so” guy, so we will be able to cordially compare notes once we see the end result.
They are going to retain both Steele/Biaz, especially with Tyron's contract coming off the books. The harder contracts with be Diggs/Lamb. This yr, just add another lineman to start to develop through their pipeline.
 

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They are going to retain both Steele/Biaz, especially with Tyron's contract coming off the books. The harder contracts with be Diggs/Lamb. This yr, just add another lineman to start to develop through their pipeline.
If you say so. What are your sources saying will be the amount their agents will be looking for? Jerry just texted me and was looking for numbers.
 

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If you say so. What are your sources saying will be the amount their agents will be looking for? Jerry just texted me and was looking for numbers.
What we know is, if the Cowboys want to keep a player, they always do. Of coarse they aren't going to overpay each, but we should be confident that they will be retained.
 

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What we know is, if the Cowboys want to keep a player, they always do. Of coarse they aren't going to overpay each, but we should be confident that they will be retained.
The most important word in your bolded sentence is if”. What is it that gives you so much confidence they will be retained? Have they leaked their asking prices? Are they so critical to the Cowboys that they are ”we can’t lose them” players?

I am assuming there are still decisions to be made, that Biadasz at minimum will test his post Pro Bowl market value, that the performance of both this year will likely influence decisions moving forward, and that neither are can’t lose players.

For me, Steele is the most important at a competitive market price assuming a solid 2023. If Biadasz wants top center dollars, I am out. I think McGovern is around 7th for centers at ~ $8M this season. But maybe I’m just not as sold on Biadasz as a long term solution as others.


You are obviously a glass is overflowing guy which is great. I just don’t share your enthusiasm that the pieces are in place, the players will remain healthy, careers are indefinite, and that agents, owners, and players see the world through the same lens. But I also tend to take a more pessimistic view of these things.
 
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The most important word in your bolded sentence is if”. What is it that gives you so much confidence they will be retained? Have they leaked their asking prices? Are they so critical to the Cowboys that they are ”we can’t lose them” players?

I am assuming there are still decisions to be made, that Biadasz at minimum will test his post Pro Bowl market value, that the performance of both this year will likely influence decisions moving forward, and that neither are can’t lose players.

For me, Steele is the most important at a competitive market price assuming a solid 2023. If Biadasz wants top center dollars, I am out. I think McGovern is around 7th for centers at ~ $8M this season. But maybe I’m just not as sold on Biadasz as a long term solution as others.


You are obviously a glass is overflowing guy which is great. I just don’t share your enthusiasm that the pieces are in place, the players will remain healthy, careers are indefinite, and that agents, owners, and players see the world through the same lens. But I also tend to take a more pessimistic view of these things
Only player they wanted is to retain and they lost was Gregory who decided at the last minute to change his mind over a clause. If they want to keep both players, they will resign them
 

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The most important word in your bolded sentence is if”. What is it that gives you so much confidence they will be retained? Have they leaked their asking prices? Are they so critical to the Cowboys that they are ”we can’t lose them” players?

I am assuming there are still decisions to be made, that Biadasz at minimum will test his post Pro Bowl market value, that the performance of both this year will likely influence decisions moving forward, and that neither are can’t lose players.

For me, Steele is the most important at a competitive market price assuming a solid 2023. If Biadasz wants top center dollars, I am out. I think McGovern is around 7th for centers at ~ $8M this season. But maybe I’m just not as sold on Biadasz as a long term solution as others.


You are obviously a glass is overflowing guy which is great. I just don’t share your enthusiasm that the pieces are in place, the players will remain healthy, careers are indefinite, and that agents, owners, and players see the world through the same lens. But I also tend to take a more pessimistic view of these things.
I checked and had a few numbers wrong. I believe McGovern is 9th for centers and averaged $9M a year. He just signed a new contract today but details weren’t released.
 

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I checked and had a few numbers wrong. I believe McGovern is 9th for centers and averaged $9M a year. He just signed a new contract today but details weren’t released.
Different Connor McGoverns

Former Cowboys Connor McGovern signed a 3 year, $22,350,000 contract with the Buffalo Bills, including a $8,000,000 signing bonus, $11,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $7,450,000.

The other Connor McGovern signed with the Jets today. Maybe I’m an idiot and reading it wrong and you are implying literally this lol
 

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I was listening to Voch the other day. He had an interview with McDonald. The player said Quinn wants to use him like he uses Parsons. The draft room will be divided in my opinion. Some will want to improve the defense and others want the offense. The problem is I think Jerry wants the tight end. :rolleyes: :grin:
Romanticizing over Witten is going to cost us probably.

I’m sure he’ll be a solid player but blah.
 
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