Pettiti Thread **Merged**

[Sarge]

So recognizing our other needs, would you draft a tackle in the first round?

I don't make generalizations when it comes to who we take in the first round of the draft.

I'd have to see who was on the board.

Having said that, yes, I would seriously consider taking a T in the first round.

 

[Oh_Canada]

We need another tackle and yes, it probably will have to come from the draft since free agent tackles are incredibly expensive.

 

[lspain1]

I don't make generalizations when it comes to who we take in the first round of the draft.

I'd have to see who was on the board.

Having said that, yes, I would seriously consider taking a T in the first round.

You are correct of course about seeing who was available on the board. I think LB and T are going to compete on draft day as the greatest need. We didn't hear much on Columbo this year but his off-season program might make a difference on who we need most.

Since you have 'sources' what do they tell you about Columbo?

 

[Alexander]

I doubt any other OL player gave up so much pressure with so much help.

Correct.

What many, many people here who are smooching his fat backside need to realize is not only has he struggled, he has struggled mightly with help. Our TEs have been held in to help him. The right guard has often been asked to help him. It changed our entire blocking philosophy. It was all about helping that one player.

You are only as good as your weak link. And this player is the symbol of our offensive line and it's complete and total ineptitude.

 

[TNCowboy]

The guy showed absolutely nothing. He's weak, slow, unathletic, and - judging from his emotional act on the sidelines last night - not mentally tough, either.

And it's not just the sacks and penalties (as though they weren't substantial). It was plays that don't show up if you don't watch closely. Like the pathetic attempt to block Peppers on a short pass to JJ last week. If he makes any block at all, JJ makes a big gain. Instead, Petitti threw a weak body block that didn't even slow Peppers. Or the whiff on Jevon Kearse in the 1st Eagles game that led to Terry Glenn losing 10 on a reverse on 1st and 10. Dallas had the momentum and was moving in a tie game at that point, and didn't get any momentum at all back until the final 4 minutes.

On the other hand, there were times when I saw some positives from Tucker. I wouldn't want him starting, but he wouldn't be so bad as a 4th tackle.

Existing for 16 games at RT isn't exactly an accomplishment when you accomplish nothing other than being on the field. The only times I saw positive plays from him is when he was able to just get in the other guy's way and just serve as a screen, basketball style. He doesn't have the strength to be a run blocker, and I don't know that I've ever seen a worse pass-blocking performance in my life than the one I witnessed from him this year. Absolutely horrid.

If we get any sort of upgrade at all at tackle this offseason, he has almost no chance to make the roster next season.

I hope that Pittdog doesn't read this, and I don't take pleasure in ripping a Cowboy player, whether they have family reading the board or not. I just can't point to anything for Petitti to build on. There's nothing there.

 

[DallasDomination]

....Sorry if a come off the wrong foot, but just looking at him pisses me off. The guy is slow, dumb and has no Balls!.


Get that guy out of DAllas.

 

[silver]

If he were to stay, as many of us would like him to, he needs to develop a mean streak and needs to be moved to guard. Same exact situation with Tucker too, IMO.

ditto. neither has the feet to play outside.

 

[JonJon]

Y' know, I'd love it if Pettiti worked hard in the off-season (weights, footwork, all of it) and started all 16 games next year and eventually became a downright dominant RT for Dallas just to quiet all the know-it-all's.

For the LAST TIME, he's a rookie playing a very tough position (physically and mentally) where they usually have several years to learn. He walked in from Day One and did his best. Because he gave up a lot of sacks (which no one would argue) everyone is ready to call im a BUST. Ware had, what?, 8 sacks this year and people are screaming that Dallas shoulda drafted Merriman?

Some people are too hard to please. Petitti WILL be better next year whether he's our starter or not, and Ware will too. When they are, all the HATERS ought to eat some humble pie and admit they over-reacted.

I think you are missing the point that most are trying to make. Most here are not upset because Pettiti isn't playing like a pro bowler; I am sure nobody expected that. We all knew there would be bumps in his learning curve as the season went on. The thing that everyone is upset about is that it appears that Pettiti doesn't HAVE a learning curve. In fact, it seems as if he got worse as the season went on. I will tell you that nobody here ever rooted for Pettiti to fail, and nobody here expected him to manhandle DEs all the time. But we did expect him to at least be average and show signs of potential. But over the last 5 games, I watched his opponents have career days, literally licking their chops as they busted past him repeatedly using the SAME moves. As a person in his position, you have to adapt quickly and understand what the other guy is doing to gain an advantage and do your best to stop it. With all that said, I hope his worst days are behind him and he uses this off-season to not only get better physically, but to study film and watch other guys that are greater than him in his position and discover what it is that is giving him a disadvantage. Hopefully, he had a Newman-like-second year and just needs to get his confidence back up.

 

[silver]

....Sorry if a come off the wrong foot, but just looking at him pisses me off. The guy is slow, dumb and has no Balls!.


Get that guy out of DAllas.

it's posts like this that make me wonder why do i bother to read a thread:thumbdo:

 

[Jarv]

Rob was good at Pitt...Stopped Freeny dead cold. He played worse at the end of the year than the beginning. He switched sides and struggled...I'm not sure if he's all that bad or if he did not get good coaching, that goes for our whole O-line.

I'm confused as to why out last years RT (Tucker) played LT and a All Big East LT (Rob) played RT this year. I could be way off base but that just seems stupid.

No coersion on the O-line all year. Other teams suffer injuries but seemed to have better results from their replacements. I just really think the O-line issues were a complete coaching failer this year.

We have a mobile, but not strong center. LA is not mobile but a power blocker, same with Flo. Rivera couldn't even start working out until the middle of the season.

What are we anyhow ? Some teams (Denver) go for the lighter, mobile lineman that can pull and run...Others go for the big bulky power offensive line.

I think we never had an identity. We mixed power guys (LA & Flo) with lighter mobile guys (Al Johnson) and could not figure out what identity we wanted. Playing guys (Tucker and Rob) in new positions for the 1st time in their careers.

Sheesh, that was just plain stupid and shows bad coaching.

 

[Tuna Helper]

Of course you dip ****s could do so much better. Go back to filling your fat guts w/ beer and beating your wives w/ your remotes. Have your opinion about Rob. that is one thing. Blatantly crapping all over this thread in order to get PittDawg to respond is pathetic. To think our Mods even allowed this thread to continue.

Say what you want about Rob but you really need to step off the dad speak. Half these posts are from punk *** children otw back to school. The other half I had respect for until now.

Nobody said Rob is pro bowl bound. He damn sure will make a good tackle someday. Book that.

Ill take my warnings from mods via PM. Ive done it before. Somebday had to come in here and ask you fools to step off a bit. So...Ill be that one.

G'day ladies.

Dallas,

I normally respect your posts and your opinions, but I think you are wrong on this, and flat out wrong about the name calling.

I personally could care less if Rob's family reads and posts in this forum. It is a free country, and they can choose not to read and to ignore this thread if they like. I am sure that other Cowboy players have family and friends that lurk or post here, yet we don't hold back the punches on those players do we? Is it because they don't have a VOCAL or VISIBLE family backing in this forum, or is it because we call it like we see it?

I personally refuse to kiss anyone's backside because of status and ties with the team. I want the Cowboys to win, and Petitti doesn't appear to the be a key ingredient to winning.

Sometimes you have to call it like it is, and Petitti is struggling right now. He has regressed all year, and this is a frightening trend. Rookies normally show some promise and improvement as the year goes along. Petitti has just gone from marginal, to bad, to worse. He is a late round pick, and truthfully most of them don't survive in the NFL. Anything beyond the 4th round is a crapshoot.

The icing on the cake was raising his hands at the end of the game when Leonard Little ran around him. What was that? I wanted to throw my TV out of the window when I saw that. He reminded me of Jose Cortez.

Again, you have to call it like it is.

 

[Big Country]

I thought Deacon Jones was rushing Bledsoe last night for a minute??? Oh wait, a beer or nine will make you see things like that...

 

[jterrell]

A couple of notes here.

1. Rob's dad is nice enough to give us his unique perspective without ever claiming Rob was gonna be a Hall of Fame Tackle. Insulting him is not any more allowed than with any other member. Try using some common decency and manners for chrissakes.

2. Rob P. was a solid enough player early but he started playing through some injuries and got exposed as a step slow.

3. Erik Williams sucked as a rookie. He got abused a few times. In 2 years he was a Pro Bowler. Rob has been compared by some to Erik. OL is aposition I am fairly ignorant of so do not know how accurate that is but I do know OL tend to develop over time.

 

[jterrell]

Dallas,

I normally respect your posts and your opinions, but I think you are wrong on this, and flat out wrong about the name calling.

I personally could care less if Rob's family reads and posts in this forum. It is a free country, and they can choose not to read and to ignore this thread if they like. I am sure that other Cowboy players have family and friends that lurk or post here, yet we don't hold back the punches on those players do we? Is it because they don't have a VOCAL or VISIBLE family backing in this forum, or is it because we call it like we see it?

I personally refuse to kiss anyone's backside because of status and ties with the team. I want the Cowboys to win, and Petitti doesn't appear to the be a key ingredient to winning.

Sometimes you have to call it like it is, and Petitti is struggling right now. He has regressed all year, and this is a frightening trend. Rookies normally show some promise and improvement as the year goes along. Petitti has just gone from marginal, to bad, to worse. He is a late round pick, and truthfully most of them don't survive in the NFL. Anything beyond the 4th round is a crapshoot.

The icing on the cake was raising his hands at the end of the game when Leonard Little ran around him. What was that? I wanted to throw my TV out of the window when I saw that. He reminded me of Jose Cortez.

Again, you have to call it like it is.

Saying Petitti is playing poorly or has regressed is fine.

Attacking someone's Dad for merely showing up is not.

I agree 100% with Dallas btw.
All of these internet tough guys so quick to take poeple to task and all that would be quickly cowering were Rob to approach them about abusing his dad.

I understand Dallas' anger because the bevaior really is about as classless as it gets. I am embarassed some of those posts came from Dallas fans much less this site's members.

 

[diehard2294]

Keep your chin up. Don't get discouraged. Get in the weight room and build up. Work on it.

But don't give up.

And don't let the nay-sayers get you down.

:starspin

see now this is what kills me,he will get stronger/his problem is his footwork and lack of atlhetisism for better words speed kills him/add a spin move forget it! I blame BP too for realizing this was a problem in camp and not addressing it. Just like the RCB situation last year

 

[DallasDomination]

it's posts like this that make me wonder why do i bother to read a thread:thumbdo:

What do you want me to say?


" oh he's fine just keep your head up and work on that foot movement?"

Yea right man..Pettiti is worse than bad, get over it.

 

[Alexander]

3. Erik Williams sucked as a rookie. He got abused a few times. In 2 years he was a Pro Bowler. Rob has been compared by some to Erik. OL is aposition I am fairly ignorant of so do not know how accurate that is but I do know OL tend to develop over time.

Any comparison of Petitti to Erik Williams is the biggest joke I believe I have ever heard.

 

[Nors]

And maybe I missed it - but he didn't even bench Petitti and Tucker all season.

They were both allowing DE's free shots at our QB at an alarming rate. I mean whiffs, barely slow the guy down type stuff stuff.

We had no plan B at Tackle and FS - Yet went into season $5M under cap. Thats my biggest pet peve now and pet peve going into season.....

 

[InDakWeTrust]

Ross Verba was looking better and better as the season progressed. LJ Shelton was my pick for stopgap starter at RT during the preseason too. Yet BP choosing to go into the season with a raw, slow, underdeveloped RT to start. Just poor GMing by BP. Hopefully he figures you cant cover for Olineman on every play. FS's you can but Olineman, especially OT's you cant. This is why I think this is BP's last year no matter how far we get next year...